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Exactly the point. As long as things that are taken away do not detract from the overall theme and story of whatever they're being taken away from (be they anime, video game, etc.) then that's okay with me. But if I had to miss out on the coolness of Wolfwood because some suit had a hissy fit and didn't want to deal with complaints, then I would have been majorly PO'ed. I'd love to continue the discussion, but I'm kicked off the computer by a bunch of whiners who want to get on...plus I'm numb from the waist down. Sitting in a crappy chair has so many disadvantages...

Meh, the movie looks okay...I might even see it eventually...it's just the name that gets to me...

I knew it! I knew it! May Kuroneko bless me for the rest of my days! (waits) Oh...sorry I mentioned it... Kuroneko: Nyao. Yes! The cat has blessed me with it's feline strength! Oh yeah, I'm sure Kuroneko has some things to say on this whole censorship/unedited stuff, right? Kuroneko: Nyao! Wow...my life will never be the same...

Is it just me, or does "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" sound like a cheesy title for a movie? Maybe it's just me...

Hey, just because you watch those shows doesn't mean you're immature. I'm pretty mature (at least that's what I keep telling myself), and I watch Recess and Dexter's Lab all the time. Nothing beats a funny cartoon.

There's nothing wrong with anything getting popular, as long as the success doesn't ruin it.

My sister just asked what "nyao" was. I don't want to be wrong (because I'm crazy), so you must tell her! Tell her what "nyao" is! (and I consider myself a person of "intelligent discussion." Woo!)

Hey! Someone quoted me! Cool! (acts like a dork and thinks that it's the coolest thing in the world that he was quoted for the first time) Oh yeah, nice quote, MillieFan. I laughed so hard when Wolfwood said that my stomach cramped up.

Here's how I feel on the whole edited/unedited issue: Just because something's uncensored doesn't mean it's good. For example, take Final Fantasy 7. I think that they went a little overboard with the cursing there. I know that they were trying to present a mature world, and that the game was meant for older people, but the way that they were just throwing them out got a little ridiculous. So, I think that editing can be good if it's used responsibly. If they just edit something and water it down, then I can see why people would be upset. But if something is unedited, then I would hope that what they have in there is used to further the story, make it seem more real, etc. and not just there to be in there. By the way, I'm not bashing FF7, because it's probably my favorite Final Fantasy. Wait, why am I talking about a game in an anime thread? Oh well, it furthers the point, I guess.

Yeah, I thought it was just me when I saw it in the manga, but I guess it wasn't just my crazy imagination...

There are about 9 shorts and extra stuff on the DVD. It's pretty good, but I haven't checked out the extras yet, because I got it late last night (and I'm not known for staying up really late).

Mortal Kombat was on the PC? Wow, you learn something new everyday.

Whew...this is a lot of stuff, even for me! I think the point about South Park is very well informed. There is a lot of "potty humor" littered in the show, but there is even more smart, satirical writing that adults would appreciate. When I think of that, I think of Kevin Smith's movies, and Dogma in particular. Obviously, Jay and Silent Bob appeal to the people looking for a quick laugh, but the movie is full of smart writing and has the underlying social and religious messages that manage to make you think (well, it made me think, anyway). But I'm getting off topic again. I think how mature a game is depends on how mature the player is. If someone plays Conker's Bad Fur Day, and only responds to the vulgarity, then it would be an immature game. However, if the person who plays the game is mature and responds to the satirical elements of the plot, then the game can be quite mature. It all depends on the perspective of the gamer, I suppose.

Another good point. I must admit that I am guilty of just wanting to sit down and blow the crap out of things sometimes (usually during the school year when I have a bunch of projects and stuff to do). I don't have Agent Under Fire and such for no reason, after all. I also have to admit that it's true that there are a lot of people who don't want to really think hard when they play games (I believe that there was someone in this very post who said that they don't like it). There are lots of games made just to capitalize on people's need for some occasional violence, gore, etc. It is pretty much the general opinion right now that mature games simply target an older audience. But, as we all know, there is a decent share of the younger audience playing these games (I should know, seeing as I've been playing some of these since I turned 13). The problem I have with MS and Sony capitalizing on saying that Nintendo is just a "kids company," is that a good portion of their fan bases are children whose parents bought them that system (though, I think that Sony has a bigger child fan base than MS does). It's not like all the kids flock to Nintendo's systems and totally ignore Sony and MS. But I'm getting a little off topic here, I think I just stick to mature games right now.

Nice job of Semjaza for knowing that, in fact, the Sex Pistols were a manufactured group (I think I read that in a book somewhere - can't remember which one, though...). Anyway, about Good Charlotte; don't like them, I have never liked them, and I never will like them. But at least their music isn't so bad that it gives me a cerebral hemorrhage, so they have that going for them.

A very good point. I know a lot of people who refuse to even talk about Nintendo and the GameCube because "it's for little kids." It's this kind of narrow-minded thinking that frustrates me sometimes (though, it never gets me angry, because I don't take gaming that insanely seriously). Come to think of it, Sega is another company that gets bashed and made fun of on a regular basis. It's sad to see the two most innovative companies in the business (and, might I add, the two companies that saved gaming), put down so often. It makes me sad, indeed.

Personally, I prefer GameCube, because there are way too many remakes on GBA and there are more games that I like on GC.

Now this is the opinion that I agree with totally. As James said, mature games are not those that just have gore, nudity, etc. The games that require maturity and thinking to get through are the real mature games in my opinion. For some reason, the game that keeps playing through my mind when I think of this is (sorry for the non-Nintendo reference in the Nintendo board) is Ico. Ico makes the player think through everything and search to find the neccessary paths through the castle. You're not just beating up on bad guys to beat the game. You have to use your mind to get out of sticky situations, and it's kind of like real life (although most people don't have a set of horns and a really pale girlfriend in real life).

Yeah, I think that these are the opinions on what most people believe make a mature game. Also, I wasn't saying that Wind Waker would be made Mature, it's just that more mature people could probably appreciate the depth to the game. But you probably knew that already. I agree that the games with sex, violence, and such can definetely be mature if they're used right and not just there to give the game some shock value.

I apologize if this has been a thread before, because I'm kinda new here. Anyway, being a Nintendo fan and all, all I hear about is Nintendo's reputation for making 'kiddie' games. This got me to thinking; what exactly would the criteria be for a game to be considered mature? For example, Conker's Bad Fur Day is rated M, but throughout the game there is bathroom humor and other things like that, so I consider it to be an 'immature' mature game (not that I'm taking away from the game, because it's a really good game). On the opposite side of the spectrum, you see Zelda: Wind Waker, with the cel-shaded graphics. It looks kiddie, but the gameplay is very deep, and this is what I would consider to be a mature game. Anyone have an opinion to counteract mine? I'd love to read them.

I saw it over the weekend and found it quite funny, but I have to agree with wrist cutter that it did get kinda serious near the end.

Linkin Park is just an awesome band and easily one of my favorite bands out right now. My favorite song on the CD is probably...In the End, but it's really hard to choose, because the quality of the CD is so high.

Skateboarding is the way to go for me. I could count the number of injuries I've had on one hand...and my foot...and my head...and my legs...and pretty much every other part of my body...but it's still fun.

Vegeta is not an easy character to play. You have to make him sound angry, but not so angry that it just progresses into silly. I don't know many people that could do that...

Vin Diesel as Vegeta?! Where are they gonna get hair?! Keanu Reeves as Goku?! Where are they gonna get acting?!