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[color=darkgreen]I agree with Japan. It's not so much the quality of the actual shows that seem to be going down, but the quality of the versions Americans have access to. Ridiculous changes for "age appropriateness" or "cultural difference" are really obnoxious. Bad dubs are also rampant. I don't have any specific examples in mind right now, so I will also just make those sweeping statements. It really annoys me though that since cartoons are for kids in America, then anime that is not originally meant for younger viewers in it's original form and setting have to be made to suit a young audience in America. I just wonder if the vast American marketing machine will ever realize that animation is a vast medium that is under used in many settings. It has the potential to wrap situations and thoughts into a package that can never be achieved in live action or any other mediums. Sadly, in my opinion, Western thinkers who cannot get past that hurdle are running the TV stations and licensing houses. [/COLOR]

I actually have a strange phobia of being late for things. Growing up in my large family, we were [I]always[/I] late for something. I would get so annoyed. NOw I have to be really early to everything. That gets kind of annoying too, as when I get there, things are often not ready or unstarted and I am not a patient person. I also am a hyper-clostrophobe. I went to see a movie and the traileer for that new Adrian Brody movie came on where tey lock him in the morgue locker. I FREAKED OUT, right in the theatre. Hyperventilation, can't look at the screen...the works. It was all I could do not to scream. I literally crawled out of my seat looking for an escape.

I'm not sure I agree that the world is no more or less violent, but any violence is much more widely televised. I find that fact somewhat detrimental. It leads to copycats. In high scholl, I was pegged as one of the "scary kids". I kept to myself, I wore a lot of black, I read a lot of books, kids were means to me and I was snide back to them. More than once it was alluded to that if there was a threat in the school, I was one of them. That thought is now and was then completely stupid and ill-founded. Some kids are threats, some kids people make threats. There was a kid in a small town here in Kansas about a week ago arrested for planting 11 pipe bombs, not in the school, but at teachers' homes and at sport fields and arenas. School is as safe as anywhere else in my opinion.

[color=green]I have seen this film. I saw it in the theatre when it first hit in the States. I watched it one more time when it first hit video. To adequately respond to your comments on it, I would have to watch it again, and who has the time? It's a very long movie. It does blend several different genres, and from what I remember it does it relatively well, although I, personaly, feel that they may have overdone the subplots, numberwise. Sometimes it is a bit hard to keep up. I remember thinking it was very well shot though, you're right about that. As for the "cool characters" Are you speaking of the naturalist and his Iroquois friend particularly? I would, in my mind, by no means rank them with Indiana Jones. That is just my opinion though. I found the Frenchman pompous, and the Iroquis, there wasn't enough of. I did like him, though. I found Vincent Cassell to be a really excellent addition to the cast. He is usually an excellent addition to anything. He play...THE ONE-ARMED MAN! no, really, there is a one-armed man and he played him.[/color]

[color=green]I am very protective of my personal space. My friends and I are close, but we're not really huggers. I hate going to a bar or club and having to fight my way through the place or not being able to stand somewhere without being touched or shoved or groped. I avoid those places a lot of the time now. I also consider sounds that are loud and bothersome an intrusion to my personal space. Conversely, with my significant other, my personal space seems to disappear. I lvoe to hug him and hold his hand and just have physical contact with him. [/color]

[color=green]I am not a Hanson fan, but I can appreciate their talent as musicians. No, Mm-Bop is not a musical masterpiece by any means, but it was written but a nine year old, and 11 year old and a 15 year old. The guys play their own instruments and write their own music. They have some really good harmonies in their songs too. I am not going to buy their CD, but think about this for a second. Perhaps their music isn't to your taste, it certainly isn't to mine, but they are musicians, which is much more than can be said about a lot of musical performers out there.[/color]

[color=green]The fire flickered and dimmed. The scant light glowed against the backs of the children, digging feverishly. Every so often, on would turn from the hole and use their hands to pack the pile of dirt theey were building to avoid it spilling or collapsing. They hand no tools, only their hands. Blisters were starting to rise and more than one finger nail had been lost to their quest. "Remus, stop for a moment. Just rest." Hermione took off her blazeer and threw it on the fire. It gave new life to the dying flame. In the rekindled flame Hermione saw the despair in the dirt-smudged face of her companion. She knew it was mirrorred in her own. She felt tears well up in her eyes and the warmth as they ran down her face. The started slowly, but soon her sadness was just too much for her to hold back. "It's so hopeless, Remuss. What are we going to do? And to think, you're here because of of me. If you hadn't walked me back to the tower, You'd be safein bed. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry, Remus." "Hermione, if I were safe in bed right now you would be here all by yourself. Not that I'm the best company, mind you. I wouldn't want you to be alone now. Bang up job I did of making sure you got back to the tower safely." Remus laughed dejectedly at himself. With a sudden gust of air the cavern was plunged into darkness. [i]You children have been busy, I see. What are you doing? trying to tunnel out? No use going down, you're already under everything. There is no way out, children. It is a shame that one of you is here needlessly. You should be more selective about your company.[/i] Although it was dark, they knew the presence was gone. Hermione heard movement and then heard Remus start digging. She smiled gently to herself and joined him in the hole. Suddenly it seemed to her very much like a shallow grave. "I'll get you out here, Hrmione. I promise." Above ground the searches were continuing, to no avail. Liz and Harry were frantically searching the upper classrooms, while Ron and Alex were in the dungeon. "Where could they be?" Ron wondered out loud in exasperation. "If only I had been there. Now Karen's off by herself outside. What if something happens to her? My family will kill me. I am supposed to take care of her." It was nearing classtime, so they headed back upstairs to meet the others and see if they had any more luck.[/color]

[quote]Adaptation... well it's ridiculously cliche'd[/quote] [color=green][i]Are you kidding me??[/i] In my less than humble opinion, [i]Adaptation[/i] was one of the most original scripts to come out of Hollywood in a long time. Long Live Charlie Kaufmen (and Daniel too ;) ). May he bring brilliance and origianlity to the cinema for years to come. Next thing you'll tell me is that Wes Anderson makes horrible movies too. *shrugs* Oh well, your opinion is your opininion, and I will not change it. As to Blair Witch, not to harp on something, but...I'm going to beat the horse all the way to death. I think it is a brilliant concept. I grew up on horror movies, name one, I've seen it. Blair witch reaches into your psyche and finds what scares you. It doesn't deliver you something that [i]should[/i] scare you. It lets you scare yourself. I remember seeing it in the theatre for the first time. I thought to myself. "Self, what are we doing here. It's and old abandoned house just like the one by the farm." In the theatre I never allowed myself to admit that I was scared. Once I got home and went to bed though, I turned off the lights, rolled over [spoiler]and I saw Mike standing in the corner of my bedroom.[/spoiler] Now, I know that's wasn't real. I knew it then. But that is the beauty of Blair Witch. The only personification you have of the killer is someone who killed children in the forties and is now dead. Powers and figures beyond your control that can easily identify and locate you when you cannot do the same to it. It's a standard plot administered abnormally here. As to the very normal camera work complaint... In my opinion, which will differ from yours, the camera work is a huge asset to the film. In the random and erratic movements you not only become aware of, you are affected by the character's fears and tensions. You feel the trapped sensation they do in the tent, in the forest, without ever seeing their faces... Think of how many other films give you that emotional rush without facial expressions. I think that the scant lighting and the black and white add to the effect. So, if you're looking for art, look outside the box. Look at what they tried to accomplish and did. They made that movie for something like $25,000 if I remember correctly. I'll look it up and change it if I'm wrong. They sold it to Miramax for $1 million. Someone believed in the idea. I bought into it. I still don't like to watch it alone in the dark.[/color]

One, Two, Three...CLEAR! [color=green]Hermione was getting used to the dark. She wanted to search her surroundongs, but she didn't want to stray too far from Remus. He seemed really frightened, and Hermione didn't know what she could do for him. She decided to look about. She gave Remus' hand a squease and explained it to him what she was going to do. As she stood up, her foot caught on something. she felt about and found a stick. From her measurement it was about a meter long. She raised the stick over her head, trying to guage the height of the cavern. She didn't make contact anywhere. As she walked, trying to find out how large the cavern was she used the stick to sure up her footing. She made way to her left and found the wall. She stuck the stick into the wall about chest height to mark her starting place. She then walked around the area, keeping to the wall until she found the stick again. There had been no openings in the wall. She didn't know what to do. "Remus. Say something so I can find where you are." "I'm over here, Hermione. I haven't moved." Remus kept mumbling things until Hermione sat down next to him again. "I'm hungry, Hermione. What are we going to eat? Do you think we'll die down here?" "Not if I can help it." Hermione said resolutely "I wonder if my fire spell will work without my wand. At least we'd have some light." Hermione broke the stick in half and then again. As she stacked them she braced herelf for failure. She recited the words of the spell and focused on the pile. Suddenly Remus' face appearred before her. Tears rolled down her face as she realized her spell had worked. "Quick, Remus, we need more wood to feed this flame." The two searched the lighted area for twigs and kindling. soon the fire was bigger and in no danger of going out. The ceiling was still not visible, even in the fire light. It was just too high. "Remus, I wonder. Do you think we could pile up some dirt and see if one or both of us could reach the top. It may be only a short distance to the surface. If we could reach the top, we may be able to claw our way out." [/color]

[color=green]Chibihorsewoman, you've named three of my favorite movies in recent years. I think all of those movies are absolutely marvolous, especially The Hours. I think it's a beautiful film representation of the human ability to cope, or lack thereof. All of the acting is wonderful and the set design is great. I think PT adequately covered the other two... This is a really hard question. So many movies now are crap. We'll just go with what I can think of for now. 1. [b]Daredevil[/b] I am a comic geek, but not to the level that I could enjoy this movie. Affleck is one of my least favorite big actors in Hollywood. He was even before the whole Bennifer debocle. I think he makes an alright sidekick, but I don't like him as the lead. Anyway, I digress. I found it shallow and too short. The cut to the bare bones of character development, only giving adequate backstory to Daredevil, not that anyone else neede any, I guess. The Electra character left something to be desired in the movie. In the comic she was a force to be reckoned with, but in the movie, she gets beat up by a blind guy and killed with her own weapon. There was nothing really groundbreaking about it technologically either. The lighting was drab and the sets and costumes were not impressive. 2. [b]Jeepers Creepers[/b] I agree with everything James said about it. The movie started well and ended laughably. Definitely one of the worst movies I have ever seen. The beginnign of the movie is great, and I like the fact that the relationship dynamic was that of siblings instead of a couple this time. Some really creative ideas took place in the first 15 minutes of that movie. Then came cliches and then absurdities. Too bad, I guess. I think one actually sets a standard for bad movies. 3. [b]The Musketeer[/b] Starring I can't remember who and it really doesn't matter... A not true the book account o fhow D'artanion (sp) comes to Paris to join the Musketeers. Complete with wire kit style acrobatics and not-quite martial arts. I understand that movies don't [i]have to follow[/i] the book, but it's good to have the same gist if it's as well known as The Three Musketeers. The yellow lighting and coloration through the whole thing was not a good choice in my opinion.[/color]

[color=green]I have only seen this one once, and that was when it first came out in the theatre. I remember being rather disappointed in it, but not hating it. I liked it technically better than plotwise. The lighting and camera work were awesome, as was the use of color the M. Night Shyamalan has incorporated in all his movies thus far. I could talk for days about how talented a director and writer he is. I enjoy entertaining the thought of Superheroes, but this movie didn't really hit a chord with me. [spoiler]My favorite scene is in the train station when Willis finally accepts who he is and encournters all the people all while the camera is doing the dizzy swirl around the room[/spoiler] As to where it stands in regard of his other films, I would rank it third. I think signs, while not as technically artistic, is the best. I find most people can't get past the manifest alien theme to get to the theme of restored faith and life. I thought Gibson carried his part of the defunk man very well.[/color]

[color=green]I was in Wichita this week, Art... it was all over the news. I didn't really pay attention to what they said was in the letter, but I was rather shocked to hear about it. From what I understand he was a rather gruesome guy. Having the fitting name of Bind, Kill, Torture. Rather self-eplanatory, really. He's been laying low for 25 years. What broughthim out in this manner is a local band, actually. They have a song entitled "BTK's My Dad" or something like it. It was mentioned in the letter. I'm rather curious about the song, I wish I could remember what band did it.[/color]

[color=green]The thing I most fear is being forgettable. I fear mostly that I will not make a mark, either on the world or any of the people around me. The only actual recurring nightmare I have had in my life is that I appear at my own funeral and there is no one there. I can't really think of any certain things like spiders that really bother me. The dark has never bothered me, either. When I was young though, now that I think about it, I used to watch Unsolved Mysteries a lot, and they made me afrain of aliens and being abducted. That seems somewhat silly now though. [/color]

[color=green]Mimmi, I love this section! It's so sad and piercing. It looks like it may be going somewhere unexpected... and I for one can't wait to see where it leads. I especially really liked the part about the sink water. Good imagery and symbolism.[/color]

[color=green]Heh, I just purchase The Neverending Story on DVD today. I love that movie. The Special effects don't hold up, but I still love to watch it. I identify with Bastien on the level that he's a bookworm and that other kids picked on him. I hope to not identify with the mother's death aspect for a very long time. I also identify with the fact that he spend a lot of his time ushered away into his imagination and away from the reality he has trouble dealing with. It's a basic everyone (good) vs. Evil plot line. This time Evil has the upperhand to start. The sides are nowhere near evenly matched. All hope is place on two people, though throughout the movie we are misdirected to believe it is one. All the quirky characters are so endearing as well. On to something a bit more serious... Terminator, the first one. I definitely enjoy this movie more now than when I first watched it. I have always been an action movie girl, but watching it now, especially after watching T3, I really appreciate it. It is an intelligent action movie with ver, very dark overtones, both in the lighting and the apocolypic imagery and prophesy. You see a young, naive woman go through the trauma and grow into a self suficient woman who will take on the world. Now, something a bit less serious... I wlike the movie Working Girl. If you get past the horrible 80s fashion and the fact that Melanie Griffith is in it, it's a pretty good flick. Sigourney Weaver and Harrison Ford are excellent, and the story is somewhat fairie tale-esque, and if not fairie tale, then American Dream-esque.[/color]

[color=dimgray]Hermione's eyes opened slowly. It didn't matter though, it was just as dark with them open as having them closed had been. As her eyes adjusted she started to explore herself with her hands. She didn't know where she was, but she knew it was not her dorm room. She was starting to be able to make out shadows when she heard some movement to her right. There was a moan, she recognized the voice as Remus. "Remus?" she wispered just in case. All she was answered with was another moan. Once she had decided that she was physically alright, she started to look for her wand. She couldn't find it anywhere. She wondered if the illumination spell would work without it. She wispered some syllables into the darknes. Suddenly a faint light appearred and revealed Remus. He quickly covered his eyes. "Hermione? Do you know where we are?" Suddenly the light flickered away and there was only darness again. It seemed darker this time, much darker. Hermione had ascertained that they were in a cave or underground cavern during the brief lighting spell. She had seen roots hanging down from the ceiling. "Remus, do you have your wand? I don't know where we are, but I can't find mine and we need at least one." At that moment a dim light shone at a distance to their left. The light obscured the source from their site. "Who is there? Why are we here?" "You are not welcome in this place. I've warned you," [i]the letters[/i] Hermione thought, "and yet you remain. You must leave, you will only bring death and ruin to this place. "I don't know what you mean. I don't mean any harm, I just want to learn magic." "It is not your place, Hermione Granger. You were not meant for that. You didn't leave, and now I will keep you here, deep in the forest. You have already brought ruin to your companion. He must now stay here too." The light faded. Hermione ran to where is had been. She felt the walls with her hands and found no opening. They were trapped.[/color] EDIT: Vicky, I hope this may help you get back into the story. We are our own arc right now. ;)

[color=green]Timothy Mcvey applied for a job at the vet clinic in my home town a few months before the OKC bombings. I found that fact to be odd when I heard it the first time. I still think it's weird to think that they got all of their stuff in Kansas and that they were "hiding out" there. Kansas is normally such a boring place, I guess that is what made it the perfect setting for them, who would think to look there. [/color]

[color=green]I'm a fan of marathoning, actually. Once I start, I want to finish, completely and know everything! I have recently marathoned Fruits Basket, Serial Experioments Lain, Candidate for Goddess and Mirage of Blaze. My worst experience with these 4 was Candidate. I just didn't like it, but I just kept watching to see if it got deeper or better...it didn't. I really enjoyed the others though. I enjoy taking it all in at once, and not waiting on cliff hangers. when I was watching FB, for instance,if I had to wait for a day or week between episodes 25 and 26, I may have just gone mad...I have little amounts of patience, and I keep it for iportant things, like people. [/color]

[color=green]I still like TMNT 1. I never really remember seeing the other two, heh. Seing it now, as an adult, it is much darker, I agree. As to James and the Giant Peach... It's based on a Roald Dahl book. I've never read that one, but I have read The Witches and Matilda (which is sooo mush better than the Danny DeVito movie). I think that it fits his general mentality that follows both of those books. I have to say, I love the movie Clue. It has an amazing cast and is funnier now than when I saw it the first time. So much of the humor was lost on me when I was younger. For some reason, after watching it with my boyfriend a week ago, he feels the need to end every conversation we have with the line, "I'm gonna go home and sleep with my wife." I find that only slightly amusing. -_- Also (this will show that I can have guilty pleasures too) I like the movie Buffy the Vampire Slayer. It's got some really subtle humor that I didn't appreciate before. that may be just me though. *shrugs* Tony, I also love PeeWee's Big Adventure. One of my favorite films from the 80's though is Heathers...the blackest of comedies, it's one of my favorite movies ever, I think. It's smart, it's dark and it's Winona Rider before she decided to suck. [/color]

[color=green]I didn't really enjoy this series all that much. I found Zero obnoxious and tedious to watch. He was oh-so-annoying. It had promise but utterly refused to live up to it... The characters could have be interesting, but, as many have said here, they were underdeveloped and many of them were introduced too late. I just didn't find myself caring about any of them, at all. As for the plot, it was nothing. They didn't explain the Victim's reason for attacking or what exactly the Victim were. They only disappointed me futher with their attapmt to make the rival more sinister. The animation I thought was ok. Nothing grand, but not poor work. Over all I have no feelings toward this series. I neither like it nor hate it. I won't ever watch it again though. [/color]

[color=green]Hermione stood, horrified as she listened to Karen recount her dream to Dumbledore and the others. She had never imagined that Karen's subconscious could hold such gore, such gruesomeness. At some point, without her noticing her hand had raised to cover her mouth. It was all she could do to keep from crying. The room started to spin. Hermione felt out of control and dizzy. Just as her knees went completely weak, she felt an arm around her waist. She turned to find Remus holding her up. He gave her a nod and a weak smile. She felt a slight squeeze at her waist, as if to say, "I'm not going to let you fall." At this point, hermione looked at the others. Many seemed to be havig the same almost painful reaction to Karen's story. Everyone seemed a bit paler in the face by the end of the tale, especially Ron. After the story had unfolded, everyone was sadly invited to leave by the Headmaster. As everyone was leaving, Karen noticed Harru. Hermione remembered him as the boy who had given her a handkerchief after her first letter. He had a strange look on his face, as if it were difficult for him to be in the room. He looked like he was grappling with himself. She almost expected him to start talking to himself audibly. She suddenly became very anxious and didn't want Karen to be alone with him. She then looked at Karen's face...she was genuinely happy to see him. The look they shared seemed to calm him down quite a bit, then Ron felt the need to intervene. [i]He's making a spectacle of himself. Harru brought Karen here, he poses no threat. I don't think he could harm someone if he tried to.[/i] As Hermione watched Harru step closer to the bed, she smiled at Remus. "Will you walk me back to Gryffindore now?" she asked him without being noticed by the others. "I am not feeling well, and i need to lie down." Remus responded with the largest smile he had ever felt cross his face. There were no need for words to answer Hermiones request. The two of them turned and left the Hospital Wing and headed for Gryffindore. Thoughts swirled in Hermione's head. [i]Poor Karen. So many things must have happened to her. She's seen so much, and yet...yet she seems so happy most of the time, so carefree.[/i] Tears welled up in Hermione's eyes and Remus stopped walking and looked at her with concern. "What's wrong, Hermione? Did Karen's dream upset you that much?" "I think that's only part of it, Remus. It's been a lot of stress the last day or two, between letters trying to incinerate me and Karen being ill and disappearring. It's all showing now. I can't be strong all the time." Remus took her hand. "I shall help you, Hermione. I am not a strong person, but I shall be one for you when you need it." Remus looked at the floor shyly. Hermione was shocked by his words. Just as she was about to respond Remus lifted his face, it was bright red. He was smiling again, "After all, it's the least I can do if you're going to help with my home work." The two Gryffindores laughed quietly and turned to go. It did not take long for the rest of the group to spot Remus and Hermione walking down the hall, but it was Liz who first noticed they were holding hands. SHe decided to let them finish their walk alone. "It seems strange things are afoot tonight, will you boys make sure that we get safely to our towers?" Harry and Ron obliged, though grudgingly. As Hermione and Remus turned a corner, they caught sight of something on the ground outside of the door to the Griffindore tower. It was an envelop addressed to Hermione. She picked it up and looked at it. This time she could not hold back the tears and she started to cry. "Why?!? Whay is someone sending me these awful things?" Remus took it from her hand. Tears had fallen on the ink and Hermione's name could barely be read. "This one looks different, Hermione." Remus said as he turned the letter in his hands. He felt it move on it's own and it suddenly started to float in the air. The two students watched as the ribbon untied itself. A green light of magic filled the air from the open letter and the two Gryffindores instantaniously fell to the floor, unconscious.[/color]

[color=green]The 6 students made their way down the hall. Hermione held back to talk to Alex. "That was really spectacular. Have you always been able to do that?" "Yeah. It's handy, but I try not to let many people know. I don't want to be taken advantage of, you know. I would appreciate it if you wouldn't tell anyone else about my ability, ok." "Alright. I think I understand. I tell Harry, Remus and Ron how you feel. I am sure they will understand too." Just then they heard a scream ring out through the hall. "Where did that from?!" Hemione said as she looked around. "This way!" Harry and Ron yelled and ran in the direction of the hospital wing. Everyone else followed. There they found Karen sitting straight up in bed sweating. Hermione ran to her bedside. It seemed to take a moment before Karen knew she was there. "Karen! Are you alright? We were so worried." Hermione said urgently. Karen reached out and gave her a hug. She started to cry."No, I'm not alright, I'm not alright." Karen continued to sab on Hermione's shoulder as everyone gathered around. Just then the lights went up. Professor Dumbledore stood in the doorway. "It is a little late for visiting hours, students. What are you all doing here?"[/color]

[color=green] Ah, Sir Kyle... I live in Manhattan, KS and I have seen Pomeroy on more than one occasion. They're not bad, though not my cup of tea. I'm really rather surprised that anyone else has heard of them, especially anyone outside of the Kansas City type area. They guys are actually pretty cool. Manhattan has an actually alright music scene. There are several bands here in town that are decent. [/color]

[color=green]I sometimes have a hard time thinking of myself as mature... Let's see if my tastes prove me wrong or right.[/color] [quote]Keeping that theme in mind, here are a couple of questions. 1. What was the first anime movie, series or OVA you ever watched? 2. Do you feel that time has made you more picky about the titles which you like and/or choose to buy? 3. If you had watched some of your current favorite shows when you first got into anime, would you have been able to appreciate them as much as you do now?[/quote] [color=green]The first anime I ever saw and recognized as somethign else was Vampire Hunter D. I used to sneak out of bed late at night to watch when I was little. It was on late at night on HBo or somethig and I loved it. A few years later Cartoon Network was added to our cable system and so I watched Sailor Moon. I thought it was great. I haven't see all the episodes, nor have I watched it in years, but I think I could stand to watch it some more. Growning up in the rural area of western Kansas that I did though, the availability of anything beyond that was small or non existant. I will admit, i still watch a Pokemon episode here and there, but that show can be really self depreciating, and I think that's hilarious. I watch some Yu-Gi-Oh as well, though the translation by 4Kids does it no justice. I can barely stand to watch it now though, they've taken the depth out of the characters. 2. I feel that money makes me more picky about what I buy. I used to buy a lot of stuff on a whim, but now I am feeling a financial crunch, so I have lightened my buying habits. Age may have something to do with it though. I won't just buy things because of the coverjacket and it's description anymore. I want to either have seen some and liked it or heard some good reviews from trusted sources. 3. I think that if I had watched, say Fruits Basket I would havae thought it was cute, but not really have enjoyed it on the level I do now. I wouldn't have appeciated the character depth and some of the, strike that, most of the comedy. Cowboy Bebop I definitely wouldn't have gotten, at all. Since it's very episodic and they don't really flow together, I think I would have lost interest at an earlier time in my life. I have recently started watching Angel Sanctuary, and definitely I wouldn't have gotten that as a kid... It has some subject matter that isn't youngster friendly...[/color]

[quote]Funny I didn't think he did that well at all. First he flew around the country and then he sat around a table looking PO'd. He was outclassed bigtime by Guiliani.[/quote] [color=green]Do you think it was Bush's idea to have him flown all over the place? Do you think he didn't want to be in his office where he could push the little red button? Bush was carted all over the placeon Air Force One because at the time it seemed the safest place for him to be. They were sending him to Camp David, remember, and then that plane went down in PA, supposedly headed for Camp David. Guiliani didn't have Secret Servicemen telling him what to do for his own sfety. He also wasn't a major target himself, like Bush was. I wonder if the terrorist thought, "How do we attack America?" " Let's get Guiliani, he makes a national point." I am not a big Bush supporter, and I don't think I will be voting for him again. The man is barely being given a chance here, folks. I mean really, 9/11 was a highly orchestrated manuver, and in my opinion, would have happened no matter who was in office. He acted how he thought appropriate in the time after 9/11, and as I said before, whether you agree with the stuff that happened or not, a lot got done. It was a time of accomplishment for bush, and a lot of the people who will be voting for him will vote for him becausee of those actions. Why not try and remind people of them to try to win some votes.[/color]