Mikkaddo

[COLOR=DarkRed]most thankfully no to that one . . . . heres one have you ever guessed someone's gender wrong? I don't mean saying "excuse me ma-i mean sir" I mean the entire "excuse me mam" then seeing their face, and still not knowing it untill they slug you . . . or scream at you[/COLOR]

[COLOR=darkred]thats because that is almost always just a ploy to try and raise the size of that priest's congregation, however, there are some that truly believe that is what God's teachings are . . . unfortunately[/COLOR]

[COLOR=DarkRed]Myself I never said that Hell was a "Scare tactic" what I said was, was the "if your not Christian your damned to hell no matter what you do" arguement that was said to be used by one church. I can see that by the reasoning we are all born with original sin, its only natural, we are not perfect. only Jesus would have been "perfect" but not even he was. Well not to the wholest exstent. but the problem comes in when you are told that unless you convert you have no chance of salvation, thats what I am saying is a scaretactic. thats making the person think "crap! if I don't convert I will suffer forever in the afterlife!" since they believe that staying in a religion other than the one that Priest preached for would bring them damnation even if by their religions beliefs they were good, they are scared into converting. I never meant to make it sound as though I was appyling it to all churches. I am most certainly not. I mean the church my family goes to is nothing like that. And the Resident priest? hell I knew the guy since I was in preschool! I love him like family![/COLOR]

[COLOR=darkred]well Panda the idea of "If your not Christain your going to hell" is kind of a scaretactic, its meant to scare people into converting under the fear of damnation, truly a pigheaded and arrogant way of making your following grow if you ask me. when I do believe there are a number of lines in the bible about respecting the beliefs and practices of others. your not picking and choosing, as the people that said that all who are not Christain are damned is in and of itself wrong. so long as they do not completely rape the ideals of their religion they are in no danger of any such horrible fate. Myself I am thankful to have found at least one person of even mild interest in Animalism. Also I am very thankful to have only had to deal with the ridicule that followed as a result of that one "disagreement" as one might put it . . . Otherwise I have seen nothing like what I normally do. (that being, me getting told about how I worship satan and that I am forever damned . . . when the truth is I can't worship a spirit I don't believe exists)[/COLOR]

[COLOR=DarkRed]myself I say thats a good idea, the thicker the book is, the more indepth it will be. Also I personally have alwasy been very interested in the times of the Spanish Inquisition, and the time of the Crusades. For those are the times that resembled very much justified murder, and I find it interesting that the church had at one point done that. As for the Spanish Iinquisition, I just thought the near endless torture, and murder of "hereitcs" with the only explination being "you go against the church" was quite odd, and enjoy seeing the justifications for such actions. But hey, thats me.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=darkred]I can see the thing about the bhudist idea working like that, its very logical in and of itself, and thank you for your comment on mine, also, nothing you said was already covered, your doin just fine[/COLOR]

[COLOR=DarkRed]from what I remember Lucifer was an Arch Angel, a leader of the armies if I'm not mistaken (which I might be) anyway, from what I heard, he started to believe himself as powerful as god, if not more so, and tried to take complete control over heaven, and was therefore banished from heaven for ever, god threw him into Hell and Lucifer began to raise his army from the few angels that stayed loyal to him no matter what had happened, then the battles ensued and it got to where it is now, but please, don't take my word directly, I can be very mistaken in this, as there are so many different stories about how it happened[/COLOR]

[COLOR=darkred]yeah . . . I defrag mine just out of habbit of once having a crappy computer . . . I guess old habbits die hard eh?[/COLOR]

[COLOR=darkred]Clorious has a number of good points, and but also, its a good idea to defragment often. its gets rid of useless files that were hidding in there, also there is software that is made to get rid of that damn annoying Spyware crap. I suggest you get that too, but don't download it off a site, that usually has some other spyware on it (devious isn't it?) and also downloading is a danger area in the techno age. if your going to download something, make sure where your downloading it from isn't a shady site thats known for causing viruses on people's computers.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=darkred]well, concerning the reincarnation, consider conception. it is my belief that with the reincarnation, conception is when you take on the new body. sort of like you . . . and this sounds a tad gross, but. its sort of like your soul attaches itself to the sperm that enters the egg, and is born again. concerning Satanism . . . its really all in perspective. I think they way a satanist views it is this. Satan was Gods most precious angel, but he made a mistake, and was forever forsaken. so they follow him because they believe that what he wants is not to use their soul for the amusement of torture, but as a tool to get himself back to his rightful place. but as you said to qoute Lulu from FFX "I can only speculate" [/COLOR]

[COLOR=DarkRed]thats very interesting, but can I ask how you believe it works after a person has made their "choice"? because I have always believed that the person is reincarnated imediatly after someone is born. so then each birth is a rebirth . . . or something to that extent. also, I always kind of thought that animals are reincarnated as animals, while humans, being at a separate evloutionary stage, are reincarnated as humans. (I'll try to stop the double posting . . . just sort of forgot when I was posting those times . . . sorry) [/COLOR]

[COLOR=DarkRed]origins man, origins, it was originally old, and is used rarely today, but they way I speak usually in person and somewhat online uses that old sort of language, and go ahead and reply to this, Im sure you'll find a way to try and degrade me again[/COLOR]

[COLOR=DarkRed]again you do nothing more than prove that your only reason to continue postin in this thread is to try and make me say "ohh Im so sad! you make me prove myself wrong!" which has yet to happen, you simply continuously insult, if you have nothing except insults to contribute than you can, no should leave. if you really do have anything helpful to anyone with a question you should answer it rather than sit there and try to suceed at an unatainable goal. and also, yes frankly does work in that sentence, but I see that you don't have any knowledge of speach any older than about 1995 so you wouldn't understand the slight differences between times before and now. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=DarkRed]I can answer that at least partially. every religion has certain signs that are reserved as proof that "the end is near" however, sometimes people can kind of take it into their own hands, and read so much into it that anytime a storm comes by they scream "FLOOD!" which means that the few people that read that much into those signs take it soo seriously that when they saw the Iraq war the freaked (like most of the rest of us), but then when they saw the dip in the economy they went berzerk. but probably the first clue they saw was the Twin Towers. chances are though, these "signs of the end" they are talking about are from Nostradamus' predictions as to what will happen in the future. which has predicted a number of things correctly. but they read so much into it that they start to think we are all going to die because a war started. but who knows eh? they might be right. I mean you can never really know. we may all drop dead of some strange diseas at any time, the next war could be the 1 that ends us all. . . . and I think I went off a bit there man, but I hope I answered your question.[/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkRed]because its a "disscusion" its not meant to be posted in if your going to continue to degrade people as you have. if you really feel I am so offensive to you, you can leave. I don't leave because I am actually stating helpful facts to people rather than using one tired example and ridiculing the people that speak differently than I do. you obviously haven't read my other posts. I am helping people that seek info on other religions, other than what I follow. where as you have lowered your posts to nothing more than insults now. you have less reason to post than anyone else here if that is all you now have to say. I however have a reason to stay. I know about more than just what I believe. because unlike you, even though I don't follow them I still read up on other religions. where as you just read up on one, and use it as your "proof" as to how religion is false. if anyone makes it easy to insult the other its you frankly. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=DarkRed]Altron, could you please explain what you mean by "out of the box"? [/COLOR]