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[QUOTE=Boo][color=gray][size=1] This could be because I mostly lay a connection between suicide and gothic people (which I don't like, mainly for fun) XD. But really, I haven't had any cases of suicide in my social circle. There were some that said they were going to, but never did it (although some gothics still cut open their wrists). [/color][/size][/QUOTE] I've heard about gothics cutting their wrists and such, but I've heard so many wacky things about what gothic people are really like I've wondered just how much I've heard is real and how much is just werid rumors. [QUOTE=Gelgoog Pilot]Well I agree with you there. There are ways that it can be totally free from any selfish thoughts, just pure want for the pain to stop, to feel at ease. I suppose for that it depends on what you belive will happen after death, which I won't get into. I'm still a little gray on the selfless one...you can try and make it sound really Idealistic and say they felt they needed to do it to try and shed light on others pain...but I don't think at that time they were actually thinking about that. [/QUOTE] hmmm... after death huh, well back then I actually thought my mother was correct and that I was possesed. I believed that on some level I belonged in Hell. Now I don't know what I believe about after death. I only know that I no longer believe what she told me. I'm still working on what I believe in that respect. :animesmil As for commiting suicide to help other's pain, well I can honestly say I was so miserable that I couldn't see beyond my own at that time. [COLOR=DarkGreen]Now I would also like to thank everyone who took the time to read this thread and also to those who replied to it. I've long since gotten over that time in my life, but as I mentioned before I've always wanted the chance to talk about it, to further explore what people felt. It's been very refreshing to talk with so many people who although their views may differ from mine are open minded enough to be accepting of others with different views. So Thankyou! :D [/COLOR]

[QUOTE=vicky][SIZE=1][B]I've been watching for some time now, and I love the mini series. Starbuck was a man, but I think Boomer was a women, I'm not to sure (I remember there being two men and a women... oh well. [/SIZE][/B][/QUOTE] No Boomer was a man as well. I'm not a die hard fan of Battlestar Galactica, but changing Starbuck to a woman kind of killed it for me. *He was my favirote character in the original* I've tried, but I just don't like her in the role. The special effects are better *though with technological advances that's no biggie* the plot is more complicated and yet I still just can't seem to get into the new series. I tried to watch it but the further it goes along the more annoying I find it to be. :animesigh

[COLOR=DarkGreen][B]Perhaps a better theory is that bisexuals are a little less superficial than homosexuals and heteros-- they are looking past the physical gender and straight into the personality and soul-- and both male and female people can have beautiful personalities and souls. After all, love isn't real if it isn't based on those things...[/[/B]COLOR] I so agree with that theory, about looking straight into the personality and soul. I have always found my self attracted to people based on their personality and not what gender they are. Which is why I stated in earlier posts that I thought I must be bisexual even though I've never dated another girl yet. Love to me has always been about what someone is like, not their looks, or gender.

[quote name='Filipinorocker1']Anyone read the manga D.N. Angel? I've been collecting the manga and so far its one of the best mangas I have ever read. Each character has their own unique personality and they react differently to each obstacle in the story making it more interesting. There are many twists in the story but the main plot remains the same throughout the book. Its a very good manga, when you start reading it sucks you in and you can't stop reading it until you finish it. Overall its a great manga. I also like the anime that came out. Its about the same as the manga, but watching the anime based on a manga is totally different even if it has the same plot and storyline.[/quote] I love D.N.Angel I have both the Manga and the DVD's that have been put out. I really like the artwork, both the anime and manga are beautifully done. I espically love the unique personality of the characters as well. I would also add that the music for the anime is beautiful too. It's one of my top five favirotes out of all anime and manga that I have ever seen. :animesmil

Well my first nickname was when I was just a baby. My older brother called me [COLOR=DarkGreen]Boo[/COLOR] apparently when he heard my parents and people calling me a beautiful baby he could completely say the word so that's what he called me. That nick name stuck long enough that I actually remember being called that a few times when I was around 4-5 years old. Then the next nickname was off my full legal name Elizabeth, some kids at school decided to call me [COLOR=DarkGreen]Lizzy[/COLOR] for what ever reason I absoutly hated that name and would beat up any kid I heard calling me that. I got sent to the principals office over that one quite a few times. Then I decided when I was ten to give myself a new nickname and started insisting everyone call me [COLOR=DarkGreen]Beth[/COLOR] that worked so well that even to this day everyone knows me as Beth, it might as well be my real name as I've been going by this name longer than I ever did as my real legal name. Plus the only nickname I got called from that was [COLOR=DarkGreen]Bethany[/COLOR] which I actually like. The only other nick I have is the [COLOR=DarkGreen]Sunfall[/COLOR] that I use for my name online. I've used that one for quite a while too. I like it so much that I actually got my license plates personalized on my car with that name. If anyone has read the Star Trek book Uhura's Song then they will know where the nick SunfallE comes from. Although the character is actually dead in the book, her songs end up being the clue to save an entire race. For what ever reason I have always loved that character in that book. If you like Star Trek and haven't read that one yet, I recommend it as it's one of my favirote books.

In general I believe that it's completely wrong. It's easy to justify stealing from others but when you are the one being stolen from then it's not so easy to justify. So I think one shouldn't do it at all. I have only one exception where I wonder why they get upset that people download the music, game, or whatever the item may be. And that's where what you want is no longer available on the market to buy legally. How many times have you heard a song that you adore and yet when you go to buy it you find that there are no more tapes, cd's or whatever being made? I find it hard to not download in that situation as I was willing to pay for it and found that I couldn't. In only one case was I able to contact the person who produced the music to get permission to copy a friend's cd or to download the music since I couldn't get a copy anymore. Most requests never get answered so it can be very frustrating to stay on the legal side of this issue.

Well I was never banned from Barbie by my parents, but they learned real quick after giving me my first one that I didn't have any interest in them. Espically since my brothers and I thought it was the funniest thing to blow up model cars and dolls with fireworks. Then when I hit the age where my friends started liking dolls the first Star Wars movie came out. *1977 if I remember correctly* So we all wanted spaceships and toys and dolls from that movie instead of Barbie. hehehe, we never thought about looking like Barbie when we grew up. We were too busy wanting to travel in space and explore. Though admittly once I got old enough to realize that wasn't possible, it was a big dissapointment. Ironically now that I am older I do actually occasionally collect Barbie dolls. Primarly because they will put one out that I think is really pretty. I usually find a spot in my house to display it as I don't take them out of the box. And naturally I have several Barbie dolls from the Star Wars movies. They didn't have them when I was a kid so naturally I had to get them now to display. :D

[QUOTE=Iori Yagami]I hate when people just dismiss card battle games as crap... I just finished Baten Kaitos and nothing beats the feeling of doing a final sunrise combo. (Doing a straight from 1 to 9.) And the elemental clashes make the battle system more challenging I, personally, found the card system to be fun and challenging and definitely not the worst battle system ever. The best battle system is either the Tales of Symphonia style or the Legend of Dragoon style. I enjoy the linear real time battle system a lot and this game doesn't disappoint. This was loads of fun to play. Legend of Dragoon's battle system was fun and challenging at the same time. Getting used to the timing to pull off the magnificent combos and the extremely high damage hits. It's a great deal of fun to play.[/QUOTE] I liked Baten Kaitos too. I didn't like it at first, but once you get into the higher combos, it's alot more fun to think quickly to get the best combo result. I also liked Tales of Symphonia as it's more real time instead of turn based.

It's not big here, but my family loves pulling pranks. The best one my sister and I ever pulled off was as school. We carefully removed the tops to cupcakes and put cotton balls in with the cream. We put them back together and took a whole bunch of them in to school and gave them to the teachers. :D One of them got revenge by telling my sister the next day that he took the cupcake home for lunch and gave it to his sick son and that he nearly choked to death. He was only kidding, but he got my sister really good with that story. :animesmil

[QUOTE=ChibiHorsewoman][color=darkviolet] (all problems shall be fixed upon my return to NY) The correct spelling is [b]philosophy[/b] Anyways.my husband and I are Wiccan, but one of our friends and his wife belong to the Church Of Christ which is another section of CHristian beliefs. One of their most interesting rules is that you can't remarry if you just decide to divorce for no reason...or maybe it's just that you can't have sex with another person. I'll figure that one out later. :animeswea Also as far as I know Mormons don't practice polygamy anymore. I believe this practice ended when they were trying to get statehood for Utah. Although i have heard in the news that at times this practice is still in use...though not as wide spread as some people think.[/color][/QUOTE] Mormons don't pratice polygamy anymore as it is no longer legal. However there are about 30,000 people in Utah who do pratice it. They get around the law by only getting married legally by the state to their first wife and then they only get married to the others at church. Other wise the state would go after them. But they use this loophole to get around the law. I know this as one of the polgymist communities is about 15 miles from my home.

[QUOTE=Baron Samedi][size=1]Japan, remember that not everybody has someone who cares about them. There are truly some people out there who [b]nobody gives a **** about[/b]. It's sad, and it's horrible, but it's true. When these people look around, they see no reason to live. They don't feel like they can improve their lives, get away from their miserable existence. And nobody cares. You cannot help but feel for these kinds of people; and you cannot denounce them as being selfish. They truly feel that they have no other alternative. Rather, isn't it more selfish of you in this case to sweep aside their woes and proclaim that they just need to 'keep their chin up'? It's disregarding the situation that some people find themselves in. [/size][/QUOTE] I would agree with you. Quite truthfully the first person to love me unconditionally was my friend who took me down to the hospital. I didn't even know that she cared about me as she was proably the only one. Since then I have gained true friends and although she's not human, my dog loves me unconditionally. I use to think it strange how people could love their pets so much, but now I understand. Life is so much easier when you have people to talk to when you feel down or have had a really bad day. And taking care of my dog really brings to home how important it is I be there to take care of her. [quote name='Pumpkin][SIZE=1][FONT=Tahoma]Baron pretty much summed up what I was about to say. There are different reasons and not everyone has someone they care about. I do think there are horrible reasons to committing suicide (not like its a good thing to begin with) like taking revenge on people or killing yourself because you can't be with someone. If that person is happy, you should move on with your life. Most the time when your trying to commit suicide you don't think of the consequences and the impact of your loss will have on other's lives. My x-boyfriend's dad shot himself when he was only 14, a time when every guy needs a dad to talk to. The fact that he left at such an important time, its selfish. Yes, but can you hate someone for that? I think its wrong to just decide that that person must be selfish because they couldnt deal. Obviously that person needed help and it wasn't offered to them. Killing yourself for revenge though is the worst thing you can do, to purposely inflict pain. If that person isnt thinking about the consequences, its not being selfish its just pure ignorance. I hope that made some sense. [/SIZE'][/FONT][/quote] I kind of feel the same way. I think that everyone has their breaking point. A point where on some level they are no longer able to cope. I know that there are others who have suffered far worse than I did and I can't imagine how they continue living each and every day. I would say that ignorance describes it quite well. At that time I really didn't think or know there was another solution. So what you say makes perfect sense to me. [QUOTE=Gelgoog Pilot]I don't think this topic wanted to know if seflishness was a bad thing...or good thing. It wanted to know if suicide in your opinion is a selfish act. I think it is. You are only thinking of how miserable YOU are and how unhappy YOU make others feel and how worthless YOU must be. these thoughts are in nature selfishness...you're simply looking for a way out of a temporary problem. Yes life is absolute hell for some, that doesn't mean you should end your life. [/QUOTE] hmmmm.....I guess another way to put it would be to ask if the desire to end suffering was selfish. I can't imagine anyone wanting to be hurt. And as a child after being tormented for so many years I certainly couldn't see it as a temporary problem at that time. I often wonder how many others out there are in simular situations. On some level I would agree with what many people have said. There are situations where suicide is completely selfish. But I also still think the desire to be free of suffering isn't.

[QUOTE=Chaos] I would rather an abused person go off on a rampage and kill the sick bastard that beat/raped/whathaveyou the abusee than have someone just end their life. At least there you take a nonproductive member of society out of the picture, and you might be able to get help afterwards. To SunfallE, I'm sorry to hear of your more-than-turbulant past. And I'm glad to hear you worked past it, at least to a point. But no, those that harmed you are not okay oe justified. But what would you ending your own life prove? That you gave up without trying to find help. I won't lecture you further, because you've probably gotten enough of that, but I just wanted to include this because I felt it was necessary.[/QUOTE] I would agree with that. If anyone did hurt me like before I would be more likely to attempt to punish them instead of hurting myself. Not that I think hurting others is a good idea. I just know that I no longer put up with being picked on like I did before. As for being lectured, I wouldn't say that you have, in fact I think you presented your opinion quite well without actually lecturing. Very refreshing actually. The main reason I started this thread is I wanted to get people's opinions, and I was certain that I was not the only one to feel that suicide wasn't necessarily selfish. This next comment will be bashing the LDS religion *Mormon* and if any of you are in that religion I apoligize for this statement. But since this happened the only people I know are LDS, since where I live over 90% of the people living here belong to this religion. Basically they have this view that suicide is selfish and I have dealt with alot of rude people lecturing me on how selfish I am, and how could I hurt my mother like I did. None of them are even willing to consider that anything my mother did or the others who hurt me is wrong. I have been posting here for over a month now and based on what I have read all of you seemed pretty open minded about alot of subjects so I thought it would be nice to talk to people like that for a change. This is another bash on not only LDS religion, but Utah as well. They are very closed minded here. :animesigh So it's great to talk with others who aren't so narrow-minded. Now to be fair, there are a few people I know here who aren't like that, but to be truthful, they aren't originally from Utah either.

Well I don't have many games that have swordsman characters, but out of what I have played my favirote is Lloyd from Tales of Symphonia. I love the duel swords and special attacks the character has in this game. Plus near the end of the game you have some really cool swords to chose from. [IMG]http://www.nintendomaine.com/ngc/previews/talesofsymphonia/art-lloyd.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=elfpirate][b]There are very few things on television (or movies) that[i] don't[/i] promote sexist attitudes in some form or another... it isn't anime-specific. If you're going to be upset about sexism, be upset about all genres.[/b] [b]And I don't agree that scantily-clad equals slutty-looking, either-- in fact, I actually find it very sexist (and therefore hypocritical) of you to say that women in bikinis are slutty-looking. [/b] [b]Don't you think that women should be able to wear their swimwear without being considered skanky-looking? Men can wear their trunks without looking "like a gigolo". Hmmm...[/b][/QUOTE] I agree with elfpirate, sexist attitudes exist in all genres. Not just anime. I also agree that wearing a bikini doesn't automatically mean a girl is a slut either. Personally I don't, but then I'm fair skinned and burn to easily, but I have friends who do and their is nothing slutty looking about how they look.

[quote name='James][color=#B0251E']In a funny way, no matter how badly I'm doing...I don't think I'm one who could ever actually commit suicide. Committing suicide would kind of be the antithesis of everything I am as a person - I'm not one for revenge and I'm not one to deliberately make those around me pay.[/color][/quote] Since my stay in the hospital *which by the way was many years ago* I now feel this way as well. For me suicide is no longer an option. I still get frustrated and depressed and have problems but unlike before I know that there are others who will help you and I've worked on learning to help myself. At the time it never occured to me that I would be hurting the ones around me, I just wanted it to end. Now I know better as I have friends who would be really sad if I were to do something like that. I believe that my first attempt *which will be my last* wasn't selfish, but if I were to do something like that now then I would absoutely say it would be selfish for me to commit suicide. [QUOTE=skedy][COLOR=Teal][SIZE=1][FONT=Lucida Sans Unicode] However, I'm incredibly arrogant and equally proud as I am stubborn (in ground personality traits) and couldn't have let that sort of adversity take me to that point, I probably would have gone nuts and killed my mother. Then again I can't really know what you have experienced. But I don't think it is selfish in the least to contemplate or attempt to carry out suicide.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/QUOTE] I actually wanted to kill my mother, but In spite of being so messed up I still firmly believed that I had no right to take someone else's life. Now I just stay away from her as I no longer even consider her my mother. Though why I thought killing myself was okay I'm no longer sure as I don't feel that way anymore. It's like looking back through a distorted mirror. It's hard to believe that at one time that person was actually me.

[QUOTE=elfpirate][b]Interesting. What you're describing is a creepy phenomena that occurs world-wide. There are thousands of accounts of this exact same thing dating back for centuries. [/b] [b]It is commonly referred to as the "Old Hag Syndrome" because the majority of people that experience it have described an old, scary hag-like creature that sits on their chest, keeping them from moving (and often from breathing). It sits there and stares or smiles at the person.[/b] [b]In every case, the person claims that they were awake ( ... or that they thought that they were) while it was happening. [b]Just within the last 4 months, both my father and one of my friends has experienced this.[/b] [/b] [b]I'm sure you can find plenty of accounts of this online, if you're interested in reading about it.[/b][/QUOTE] There is actually a scientific explanation for the phenomena as well. When you are dreaming in REM state your body is in a partial state of paralysis. Other wise every time you dream you are walking your legs would move as the signals still come from your brain telling your legs to move. I read about this in a book, I think it was Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming by Stephen Laberge. Basically you wake up but your body is still in the REM paralysis state and you can't move. Plus since you are still close to the dreaming state you may still actually see parts of a dream even though your eyes are open. I remember doing that once. I woke up and couldn't move. It felt like something was sitting on my chest and I couldn't move. I was looking at the ceiling and I fell back into a dream with my eyes open. The ceiling changed to a huge room and when I tried to step into it I felt like I was falling and the paralysis left. The huge room changed back to just being a ceiling and I finally woke up completely.

[QUOTE=skedy][COLOR=Teal][SIZE=1][FONT=Lucida Sans Unicode] Also, how many people have been at odds with their parents over their sexuality? Mine were pretty cool about it, though they did tend to view bisexuals as slutty because of the people they have known throughout their lives. They were surprised that I said I was bi, however, and not gay. [/FONT] [/SIZE] [/COLOR][/QUOTE] I've never been able to tell my parents I think I'm bisexual because living in the state I do any form of relationship that isn't legal marrage is considered one of the worst sins possible. And my Dad and Mom are both the type to think if you are different you must be a child molester or criminal. :animesigh [QUOTE=skedy][COLOR=Teal][SIZE=1][FONT=Lucida Sans Unicode] The two things that tick me off with relationships however, is a lack of trust in one's partner. I hate it when creeps don't trust their girlfriend enough to leave her alone for a couple of hours with some of her guy friends. And I also hate it when people are dishonest with one another in a relationship. If someone does something wrong they should have the guts to tell their partner for better or worse. [/FONT] [/SIZE] [/COLOR][/QUOTE] I so agree with you on that point. I had one boyfriend like that who couldn't handle my having normal guy friends. And I agree about the being truthfull with one another instead of being dishonest. [QUOTE=skedy][COLOR=Teal][SIZE=1][FONT=Lucida Sans Unicode] I also agree strongly with SunfallE in that it is wrong for someone to cheat on someone else. I find I'm a little more 'open' in this area though. I wouldn't consider it cheating if someone 'slept with' another person while they are in a relationship, or even pursued a relationship with a second person. So long as the partner is aware of and ok with it before the other person pursues such course of action. A couple of points there hey, ~skedy [/FONT] [/SIZE] [/COLOR][/QUOTE] I feel the same way about that too. I have no problem with additional relationships so long as it is agreeded upon by both partners. Which is why I won't do it unless I talk to the other person first. If the girl who hit on me hadn't hid it from her current girlfriend I might have actually been interested. But her dishonesty disgusted me. Until that moment I actually liked her alot. But when I realized what she wanted from me I found I couldn't stand to be around her anymore.

[QUOTE=Sol-Blade][COLOR=DarkRed]Post counts are nothing to me, and should be nothing to some people. But I know, after years of foruming...that apparently post counts equal symbols of power. Yes, it's a ridculous statement but it's no secret that people do think that. On my old clan forums, we had at least 7 ranks. And yes, people did spam to get those ranks because they apparently thought that having the title of "Forum Veteran" was the cool thing to do. I love the fact that there are only two forum ranks here. Keeps it really simple, you are either new here or you aren't. The custom titles are beautiful, as they basically allow the user to give him/herself whatever title they want. I say stick with the two ranks, and leave custom titles. Just my two cents anyways. :D[/COLOR][/QUOTE] I think the amount of posts shouldn't matter either. Truthfully untill last month I had never even belonged to a forum so when I joined and ran into the spaming on sites just to get a title I found it highly annoying as I felt it distracted from the real reason for posting. Which I think is to have quality discussions with fellow fans on various topics. I personally love the custom titles as it lets you put a brief statement that you choose. [QUOTE=Dagger]It deeply saddens me that anyone would feel "diminished" by having a low post count, especially since post counts aren't even displayed (except on one's profile page). I like to think that new members are treated with the same consideration & respect as people who have been here a while; if someone is welcomed that way and still develops an inferiority complex (thanks to a post count which is for the most part invisible), I'm not really sure what more we could do. Anyway, I like the current system (custom titles are awesome!). Tiered titles are ultimately kind of worthless, as Desbreko so succinctly put it--someone with over 100 or 200 or even 500 posts will not necessarily be more plugged-in to the community (or have better post quality) than someone with 30 posts. ~Dagger~[/QUOTE] I can say that for myself as a new member I was treated with consideration & respect and no one ever commented on the fact that I was a new member. I personally hope that this site never gives titles beyond the simple New Member & Member as I think it would be a distraction. I love how this forum has a higher rate of quality posts instead of tons of spam which was posted just to get a silly title.

[QUOTE=Ozymandius Jones][COLOR=DarkOrange]Yeah, the mods are a bit strict...but they're the reason these boards aren't the streams of random gibberish that every other anime message board out there seems to be. And they're not the tyrants you make them sound like...she could've locked your thread, instead of giving you advice towards good posting in the future. [/color][/QUOTE] I would agree that they are strict, however when I joined this forum I quickly got use to the quality of posts. It was surprising to go back to other forums I belong to and realize just how many of the threads there are nothing but gibberish. So many of them are full of nothing but simple statements that quite often don't even form a whole sentance! Though I can't blame the people there, most of them are still very nice. Now, I rarely post in any of them anymore as it just doesn't seem like there is any real discussion going on. I think if you give it a chance you will like it here. :animesmil I'm new myself but welcome to OB!

Tell me what you think. If you think it is sefish, why? If you think it isn't, why? Here's my opinion on the matter: In some situations I would defiantly have to say no. It?s to easy an answer to automatically say the person wanting to die is selfish. Here?s a situation and you can decide for yourself if you think this person?s desire to end it all is selfish or not. Imagine that for twelve years you were sexually, verbally, and physically abused. This abuse started when you were only six and a half years old. Then when you were twelve years old your parents get divorced and the court grants your mother custody over you. Although the move away from home ends the physical and sexual abuse, as the abusers no longer live near you, it is replaced with abuse from your mother. For whatever reason she decides you are a demon child possessed by the devil. Your mother uses any form of religious teaching to prove your demonic state and that you are beyond redemption. As a child you don?t know if what she says is true or not, it?s hard to understand why on some level your own mother hates you so much. After nearly 12 years of being abused you find yourself constantly depressed and it seems that the pain only gets worse every day. Now imagine you are lucky enough to have a friend who notices how you seem to keep getting more and more withdrawn. This friend cares enough that when she finds you about to overdose on medicine in an attempt to kill yourself, she takes you down to the hospital to be admitted. Imagine the relief of finding out that you aren?t possessed by the devil, and that you aren?t alone. Other?s who have suffered like you have welcomed you into their lives. You decide that although it hurts, you never wanted to die; you just didn?t know that other?s out there cared for you. After all for twelve years the people you thought loved you simply used you. I?m sure by now that many of you have guessed that I am talking about myself. I want to know where does one draw the line? Sure there are people out there who use the threat of suicide to get their own way, but what about those of us who were simply needing help and didn?t realize it was there? It actually took my counselor informing my mother that if she talked to me again a restraining order would be used for her to finally quit yelling at me and chewing me out for everything, most the time the stuff she yelled at me over wasn?t even my fault. Ironically my desire to die resulted in my getting the help I needed. It totally changed my life for the better. People will say that I was selfish, and I just can?t agree with them. What about the people who hurt me all those years? Are we saying that their actions are okay? Where do you draw the line? I am sure that there are others who attempt suicide who are just like I was, desperately needing help yet not knowing where to get it. So maybe in that respect I am a bit selfish, I wanted to live after all.

[QUOTE=skedy][COLOR=Teal][SIZE=1][FONT=Lucida Sans Unicode] Then again I also know a lot of people who'd be offended at the suggestion that they are even remotely attracted to a member of the same sex. But the community I live in is pretty open to the idea of same sex partners; a lot of people wouldn't try it for themselves by they accept those around them as equal members of the community. Heck it's more or less a bad thing to judge a same sex couple around here, end up with people being treated much like the couples they insult in other areas. I really feel sorry for SunfallE living in such a restricting community. Oh, and I think its how you feel about the same sex hitting on you that determines how straight you are, not whether they hit on you or not. How do you feel when other girls hit on you SunfallE?[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/QUOTE] I guess that's why I wonder about it as being hit on by other girls doesn't bother me. The only reason I have never dated a girl to find out is I absoutly refuse to cheat on someone. If I am dating someone or if I get asked out by someone who is already with someone else, I won't date more than one person at a time. Or someone who is already dating. One of the girls who hit on me was living with another girl and often reffered to the other girl as her partner for life. She was only interested in 'fooling' around and I turned her down as I don't want to be involved with people who will cheat on you. She even wanted me to keep it a secret from the other girl she was living with. Nothing turns me off quicker than finding out a boyfriend is dating someone else at the same time. So I guess the only reason I haven't tried dating a girl is that I've already been dating when I get hit on, or they are already dating. I'm sure there are people who don't consider that cheating, but I personally don't want any part of it. I've seen to many problems arise from that type of situation.

The first series I actually remember seeing was Gatchaman when I was 9 years old. Though at that time it was not the same show as it was majorly edited. After that I vaguely remember seeing other stuff, but I don't remember the names of the series. It wasn't until much later in my early twenties that I got back into anime and became a huge fan. So many things they showed on TV were edited *like Sailor Moon & Yu-Gi-Oh* and I didn't like how they had been edited. One of my friends, who I teased alot for liking the shows, insisted I watch some of the shows in Japanese with the subtitles on and thanks to her I now love anime.

[quote name='TheOne']thx for the help so far... since this became a harder task than i first thought i decided to just ask him what kind of anime he wants.. he said something like D.N angel or angel sanctuary... i guess he likes people with wings or angels... u guys know of anything like that?[/quote] I'm not familar with angel sanctuary, but I have D.N.Angel and it's a great series. It's funny, romantic and a bit mysterious as the main character turns into a phantom thief *who is actually another person living inside him* when he sees a picture of the girl he loves. His only cure is to have the girl love him in return but she loves the phantom thief and not him. It's beautifully animated and has great music too.

[quote name='Bloodseeker']Classes. Don't think that a PhD alone makes you an expert. You planning on becoming a counseler? My experiences tell me that counselers hardly ever have any idea of what their talking about. My old ones made all the wrong assumptions and tried to tie all of my troubles to my father when I was kid, when in fact he was the source of none of them. They never dropped it until he came back, then they just acted confused. Just make sure that you don't make similar mistakes with your patients.[/quote] No I am not becoming a counseler. My parents got divorced, I myself have been abused and attacked by others. I took the classes in a desire to help myself understand why other people could behave in such a fashion. I did go to counseling and felt it wasn't enough to help me understand. Though I feel I was lucky as the counseler was actually really nice and helpful. As for the shyness and philosphy being attacked, perhaps you could list the actual anime you are reffering to and I would understand better the type of shyness and philosphy you are talking about. :animesmil I do agree with what AzureWolf said: [COLOR=Blue]Anime fans need to wake up and realize that some animes just aren't as deep as they make them out to be. Just because you don't understand an anime doesn't make it a richly-complex, philosophical anime[/COLOR] I have seen shows that I felt fell into that catagory.

[QUOTE=AzureWolf][COLOR=blue]So, do people here think sexual preference is discrete, or is there a spectrum (was it Freud who said that)? What I mean is, do you think when one person likes girls, that person only likes girls, or just likes boys significantly less. And then there are bisexuals, who would be in the middle of the spectrum, liking both genders equally. Do you get what I'm asking? O_o Just putting in more things to discuss, heh.[/COLOR][/QUOTE] It's hard to say. For myself I find that what attracts me to people is character traits and personality. I have always dated just guys *I'm a girl by the way* but I have run into girls who personality wise were just as attractive as the guys were. *so does that make me bi?* I honestly just don't know if I'm bi or straight. Admittedly I live in a highly religious area so being bisexual or homosexual is highly frowned upon. Hell the state even has laws that say you can be arrested for living with a member of the same sex if you have that type of relationship. *though they don't really enforce it* I think on some level I proably am bisexual since I get hit on by both guys and girls. I mean I don't try to get their attention but girls are attracted to me too. Sometimes this whole sexuality thing is just downright confusing. :animesigh