DeathKnight

[quote name='2007DigitalBoy'][COLOR="DarkOrange"]I'm listening to the album [B]El Cielo[/B] by [B]Dredg[/B].[/COLOR][/QUOTE] [color=crimson]Whoa that takes me back a couple of years. Right now I'm listening to [b]Ruined[/b] by Jesu, a song off of what would come to be their first EP. It's a twenty minute long drone/doom metal song that is pretty tasty to my palate. I'd love to share it with you but Jesu's stuff is hard to find just floating around the net. I'd upload it to Vox but the MP3 of it is.. significant.. in size. This is a "trust me, it's awesome!" post.[/color]

[color=crimson]I've been trying to find a home for a dog. I met a guy about a week ago who was a friend of a friend. A dog gave birth to pups under his grandparent's deck and when the father-dog's owners came to collect the litter the conditions weren't too optimal for crawling around underneath the deck as it had been raining nearly a month locally at the time. Eight puppies left then and by the evening they heard yelping, one had been left behind. It's a precious little boxer/pit mix, a little girl who is quite adorable. My parents aren't interested in a third dog so I've been trying to find a place for the dog with a friend of mine who raised a pit already and has expierence with large breed dogs. I'm hoping that he has the financial capability to take the dog on because the little pup deserves a good home and a good life. I quit my summer job since college is approaching and I'm looking into taking up a martial art. Tai Chi and Shaolin-Do are the two that have my interest the most, since there aren't any respectable Jeet Kune Do teachers around San Antonio. Keeping in shape and having a productive hobby are the foremost reasons for my interest in taking up a martial art. I don't really care about kicking someone's ***. At 6'4" it's rare for someone to want to have a problem with me. I'm part of the "I want to be a writer" crowd that floats around young adults like a group of blooms desperately trying not to wilt. I understand the difficulties of breaking out into writing. I don't imagine wild success on the level of Rowling or King. Haha, minor success would be neat. I just want to walk into a Borders or a Barnes and Nobles and find one of my books chilling on a shelf somewhere. I don't want to do anything else. I have a thousand worlds floating around in my head and so far the only place they can end up is as dead graveyard RPs in the Adventure Arena. It's a poor situation for both writer and reader. I've grown increasingly weary of my parents razorblade diplomacy with each other and have just resolved to be away from the house as much as possible to avoid the fallout that lingers in the air every day. God bless them. They'll keep their relationship as venomous as possible and that is an accomplishment. At least they bought me a car three years ago that lets me have the option of simply leaving instead of trying the idealistic, would-be hero routine of trying to fix their marriage for them. That never works. Personal experience. Plenty to do, plenty done. Just keep my head on straight and keep smelling the roses. Treasure the good and the bad since I know if I hadn't been adopted it would have been all bad. Take the high road when it's offered. Not always though. Remember my mother's advice, "Sometimes you have to insult people". Look forward to being 19 in a few days, should be an alright year. Excited about college. I went with my girlfriend to get her books and I was picking up everything in sight like a kid in a candy shop. It was awesome. Keep treasuring my relationships with my girlfriend and friends. I'm gloomy sometimes but even gloomy people can be funny. And, as always, [b]momento mori[/b].[/color]

[quote name='indifference'][COLOR="Indigo"]Also, SunfallE is right DeathKnight, Rat Boy [I]is[/I] 2007DigitalBoy. lol So yes you have been a jerk to the wrong person. :p [/COLOR][/QUOTE] [color=crimson]My bad person who uses same color and font of 2k7 Digital Boy.. and talks like him. I hope he hasn't cloned himself or something. O_O[/color]

[quote name='SunfallE'][COLOR="goldenrod"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]Also DeathKnight... I thought 2007DigitalBoy was Rat Boy, not The13thMan. XP[/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE] [color=crimson]I thought that was him with a name change. Oh man have I been a jerk to the wrong person? Woops. Awkward.[/color]

[quote=The13thMan][COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]My point is society is more expecting of the father to sacrafice himself and what he wants and just be supportive of the woman. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]Never said anything about giving anybody all the say... actually my entire point is the exact opposite. You simply misunderstood what i said. Oh well. (>'-')b [/FONT][/COLOR][/quote] [color=crimson]You took the paragraph ("A woman is choosing, if she aborts, to revoke the man's right to fatherhood at the same time...") as a rebuttal to something you've said when that was not the case. It was a statement on a set of views on the paternal/maternal rights regarding abortion debate. [/color] [quote=The13thMan][COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]If meeting in the middle is ideal in your opinion then we agree. What the freck are we arguing about? [/FONT][/COLOR][/quote] [color=crimson]We're not, you're still feeling the need to defend yourself although I've stopped being antagonistic and sarcastic towards you. Chill, I'm not messing with you in these last two posts.[/color]

[quote name='The13thMan'][COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]Congratulations. You are now wasting my time with your stupidity. There are too many things wrong with what you said. You didn't comprehend anything that i said because you basically just repeated yourself without addressing anything i brought up. [/quote][/color][/font] [color=crimson]Grinning at your responses to my crud isn't much of a waste of time to me. I guess it's your time of the month though so I'll seriously respond to you rat-boy. You said that you think it's off that a man has to be supportive of anything a woman chooses and you've arrived at a fun juncture in the abortion debate. A woman is choosing, if she aborts, to revoke the man's right to fatherhood at the same time. Likewise, if she has it when the father does not want her to she is forcing the father into fatherhood which can get icky with child support (You aren't ready to be a dad? Too bad, here's the bill). Give the father all the say and the trend will be reversed. It's straightforward to say "The fetus is now growing within your body and it is now your responsibility", so that is what they say. Trying to meet in the middle would be ideal but it's hard to work out some kind of middle ground between those two. Some countries and U.S. states require the father's consent to abort (usually having a provision that if the mother is in medical danger it can be overridden). Until this need for consent spreads or otherwise the best thing to do is wrap it before you tap it unless you want a bunch of little rat-children.[/color]

[quote name='The13thMan'][COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]I won't mention it past this. [/FONT][/COLOR][/quote] [color=crimson]Oooooo burn.[/color] [quote name='The13thMan][COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]You claim that it isn't a matter of "ownership" then you contradict yourself by saying the reason the woman has more of a say is that it is part of the woman's body. You realize you made the assumption that we have ownership over our own selves here, don't you? Perhaps i've mistaken you...[/color'][/font][/quote] [color=crimson]It becomes a part of her body. You have the air of "how dare you take away father's rights". A woman's right to what goes on with her body seems difficult to equalize to the gender that does not have anything growing in their body and affecting it. [/color] [quote name='The13thman][color=DarkOrange']Although, i don't know how you can make such a claim without some sort of study to back it up. Do you have a study to back it up that states the father's wishes are commonly discussed? I'm not saying it's not so, i'm only saying that i don't know if it is or not. Regardless, it is irrelevant.[/quote][/color] [color=crimson]Commonly important issues are brought up in healthy relationships, which is pretty much a repeat of what I said. In unhealthy relationships, rape, abuse, other circumstances than that then it's either not applicable to have a father's consent or probably not done. I attained these studies about the "communication phenomenon" within healthy relationships from the Encyclopedia Dramatica.[/color] [quote=The13thMan][color=DarkOrange]Why would you refer to the mother over the father? That seems ridiculous to me. Doesn't it matter what the two individual people are like? The mother could be a loser and the father could be really cool. It's not fair that you've already made up your mind beforehand. [/quote][/COLOR] [color=crimson]Do you have any studies regarding the ratio of coolness between mothers and fathers? I've never really looked at those figures, I'd need to see that to really think about what you're saying here.[/color] [quote name='The13thMan][COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]::sigh:: I expected more from you.[/FONT'][/COLOR][/quote] [color=crimson]I'll grow to accept your disappointment with time.[/color]

[quote name='The13thMan'][COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]Yes, i get that point. I mentioned it. Though i think the main point should be that the unborn child is as much the man's as it is the woman's. [/color][/font][/quote] [color=crimson]It's not a matter of "ownership". The contribution of the sperm to creating the child is accepted, it's the fact that past that point it becomes a literal PART of the woman's body that will eventually, if it is allowed and luck graces it, be born as a human infant. The father's wishes are commonly [i]discussed[/i] and known in most healthy relationships. In cases of rape or abuse I'm not sure where you're coming from. Rarely a falling out could occur between the father and the mother but I would defer to the mother over the father.[/color] [quote name='whateveryourstupidSNisthesedays][color=DarkOrange'] What should happen? Who should have the say? It is her body... she would have to go through the months of bearing the child. Is that enough to give her the right to terminate the child's "life" when the father says otherwise?[/quote][/color] [color=crimson]Yes.[/color]

[quote name='DeathAngel'](:D so we in? or are we waiting for more people)[/QUOTE] [color=crimson]Mas people if they show up.[/color]

[color=crimson]Got a couple of more recent ones. First, a pirate party was thrown for my girlfriend's little brother and I dressed the part. She and I put together a little neighborhood-wide hunt where we left these clues to stolen treasure that ended up being in their back yard. The treasure was a little chest of goody bags, lol. Fun times. Here we're giving them the first clue. [img]http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9728/3369685105050albes7.jpg[/img] This one was at a German festival during Fiesta that my girlfriend, her family, myself and many of their friends went to. Notice all the pitchers of beer on the table.. man some of that stuff was really good. The food was to die for though. [img]http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/6203/8449336105050albnq0.jpg[/img] This is also at the Germanfest and I'm just chilling against the wall with her little brother and one of her father's friends son. Stuff in my hair is from a [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascaron]cascarone[/url], lol. Salright, I got my girlfriend back for that one. [img]http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6052/2962136105050albhd8.jpg[/img] This is at my girlfriend's graduation, she looks very lovely and I look very meh. [img]http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/9066/3930140025050albdc1.jpg[/img][/color]

[color=crimson]We walk through you, we are in you, we seep through the hemispheres of your brain and have been given free reign to dominate, destroy and pillage your inner sanctum. Black, twisted gray skies will blanket your every waking hour and the rain that falls, the curtains of rain, will soak down to the very core of your being touching you with an icy horror that refuses to lift itself. There will be no empathy or pity, we will drown every ounce of you within a collection of terrors that will unhinge and rend you into pieces. From these pieces we will construct you anew and give you a new life. A life as one of us, a life as one of our minions. Welcome to the Collective. -~- A bullet smashed through my face. My black blood gushed out in spurts matching the rhythm of my heart. I glance around wildly with half my vision and spot a lone gunman lurking in ruins two hundred feet away. I let out a roar and charge forward, hunkering down. The terrain around me blurs as I leap instantaneously at him. I raise my arm.. - 'Fuck.' I look up to the mobbies disfigured, mutated arm as it comes down. With an inch to spare I roll backwards and slam into a wall behind me. Pain ebbs down my back but I force my eyes open as the ten foot tall beast tears through the shot-out window I had been at moments earlier. I scramble to my feet, rip the cartridge out of my gun and replace it. The mobbie bears down on me but I stumble through a doorway next to me. A stairway ascends in front of me. The bottom four are broken out so I leap over them and hurry upwards. At the top there is a hallway leading right and left from me. I look left, and then right, and listen to the roar beneath me. I run to the right. - My wound has clotted. I curse my slowness and spit on the ground. Even bent over I can barely fit inside this damn human residence. I leer up at the ceiling but hear a low creak come from it. Realization washes over me. My fist easily breaks through the ceiling above and I grope around blindly. Bullets rip into my hand. A smirk crosses my face, I was right. With my other hand I easily bring the entire floor down around me. - "Shi-" I fall briefly for a moment before landing in a heap of rubble. I raise my rifle up and fire at the monster. The bullets make a 'schlop, schlop, schlop' noise as they go into it's abdomen. It seems unaffected and approaches me with a sinister expression on it's twisted face. It's hard to recognize it as anything, let alone something that was human, but it's eyes.. it's hard to mistake those eyes. My clip is empty. I pull out my pistol and fire fruitlessly at it's head. The hit I got early on it's eye.. it's already back together again. Shit. - '.. turn... him... turn... him...' I consider the human for a moment. '.. TURN... him... into... one.. of us...' I obey. I approach and grip his mouth, forcing it open. He struggles like a mouse caught in a trap. I take a few drops of blood from my wounds and raise my hand over his mouth. - I taste the most foul thing I have ever tasted and feel a warmth spreading throughout my mouth. I cough and sputter but it's already entering my system. Beads of sweat form on my forehead and I fall backwards. I stare up to the ceiling. My vision goes white. '... awaken... to the Collective... awaken...' An eye forms within the white void, blood shot and wicked. It stares through me and leaves me feeling meek, feeling that there is no escape. My mind screams as a thousand images of torture and violence run through me. 'AWAKEN.' Images of humans being raped, being abused, being ripped to pieces a tiny bit at a time. A baby, dropped, down, the flames lick at her face I.. why.. '... awaken.' "Stop." The images cease. '...' "I apologize." A voice says. "You're infected so I cannot spare your life but.. I can make it so that you do not die watching this." The white light fades into a deep purple spiral that appeared like a maelstrom. "C'est la vie." Darkness. - A cloaked figure walks past the gaping hole in the wall and stands outside the building. The Hunter turns and looks at it, bearing it's teeth. A stillness settles over them. The figure stands with the sprawling, ruined skyline of the city behind him. A single, dark purple symbol decorates his otherwise white cloak: a circle divided into quarters. Earth. It is the Earth. "That will do you no good." The figure said. "I do not frighten like these Partisans do. Would you like to step outside?" "For.... what?" The Hunter's lurching voice was guttural and difficult to discern. "Would you rather die in those ruins with the young gentleman you attempted to turn or would you like to die in a more open area?" The figure gestures to the dusty wasteland around him. "I do not mind either way." "... Hah.. hah." The Hunter's grotesque face twisted into a wide smile and dribble drips down from it. His movement would have been too fast for any human. A sound similar to thunder booms and the figure is frozen mere inches from injuring the figure. His hood had been blown back, revealing a handsome, yet unkempt, young man. His deep purple eyes stared cooly at the monster. "I see." He said and raised his hand. He tapped the Hunter's forehead and it's eyes shut. Flames erupted from it's body and the ashes fell onto the ground. The ash lifted itself and twirled around the figure. Soon it was joined by a huge, seemingly unending cloud of ash.The ash shot up into the sky and blotted out the sun. All over the city roars, screams and cries, all inhuman, ripped out. The man glanced down to his white robes which were somehow untouched by the ash. "Ahh, good." The young man smiled. They knew how many he had killed already that day and they were afraid. - '... we must survive... survive... we must.. survive.. observe, adapt, learn, survive... those are the unbreakable rules.....' - The mutation and spread of the Collective took little over a year. It could not be found exactly what it was but it's effects upon infected humans was obvious. The mutations were horrific, rendering some almost entirely beast in worst cases. These turned humans called themselves members of the Collective, a hive mind that seemed bent on bringing all of humanity under it's grasp. It seemed unavoidable. The fall of major world powers happened almost monthly and the warlord partisan groups that remained in their wake fruitlessly continued to try to stem the tide of the turned. Sanctuaries dot the globe, fortresses protected by firepower 'borrowed' from the old governments. They fight a losing defensive battle against the no man's land that is much of the Earth where the Collective burrows, similar to military bases, exist. Lone nomadic groups of armed humans exist in the shadows of the no man's land, refusing to join the sanctuaries in their ever-louder swan song. Increasingly there have been reports of mysterious individuals easily defeating the Collective. Calling themselves the Blue Bloods, this group is gifted with extremely potent psychic powers. Tales of their valorous protection of Sanctuaries has spread quickly across North America. Looming in the future is a war between these evolutionary. The Collective continues to hone it's mutations into more powerful monstrosities with each turn. As the older crop of Collective are slaughtered by the Blue Blood's, a newer, more dangerous brood is born made to combat them. The Blue Blood's find themselves awakening every day with more power at their disposal and yet it never seems to fully stem the tide of the Collective. In the middle, between both groups, lays the bloodied, dying vestiges of an increasingly obsolete species that can do little but struggle to avoid becoming abandoned along the evolutionary vine. Their ingenuity and spirit intact, they soldier on stubbornly in the face of the writing on the wall that foretells their own demise. - [b]Name[/b]: Collective names are usually mere numbers or letters combined together. Blue Blood's usually refer to themselves with call names brought from history, mythology or wherever they please. [b]Species[/b]: Collective, Blue Blood, Human. [b]Appearance[/b]: A rule for the Collective is that, for example, if you are going to be actively seeking humans to turn you will be a rather physically impressive individual to make you excel at that. The appearance matches the duties demanded of you. I do not have any guidelines for how you should appear or what it is you do, you can do whatever you would like to within the Collective although I presume most people will want to match the Blue Blood's with their skills. Blue Bloods are very attractive physically and have oddly tinted eyes in comparison to what is normal for humanity now. Gray, silver, purple and pink are the most common colors. They appear very fit physically and have all the skin colors and racial appearances men have now. Humans are just humans. Ragged, worn, scarred but human nonetheless. Armed, armored and morbid. [b]Capabilities[/b]: Collective's and Blue Blood's are both very powerful. The Collective have creatures that can move faster than sight can follow. Some can topple skyscrapers. Others spit fire across acres of land, creating massive firestorms that none can escape. Increasingly, new Collectives display the kind of psychic capabilities the Blue Blood's exhibit. A combination of typical Collective physical destructiveness and psychic abilities of the mind make them juggernauts on the battlefield. Blue Blood's are all talented psychics who can use their mind to do a never ending list of things both defensive, offensive and utilitarian. Every day Blue Blood's seem to learn new tricks they can do with their mind. Shields, telekinesis, pyromancy, precognition and numerous other abilities are the Blue Blood's domain. Physically they fight with melee weapons tempered and crafted with the mind rather than the body which can wound and kill the Blue Blood's as normal human weapons cannot. Humans have at their disposal the weapons created when they had dominion over the Earth. Though bullets usually have little affect on the Collective, they are very susceptible to sonic weapons. Research within the more wealthy and healthy Sancturies have produced sonic weapons that have proven lethally effective upon the Collective. Pressed to adapt to the Blue Blood's arsenal of psionics, it seems the Collective cannot currently take the time to adapt it's newer broods this threat. Humans lacking these armaments are generally easy prey.. if caught. Humanity continues to show that it can scurry around ruins like rats, appearing and fading through sewers, ruins and tunnels in feints and surprise attacks. [b]Snippet/Biography[/b] (optional):[/color]

[quote name='Juuthena'][size=1]Duo God of Death something. Lia/Amber/SSJ chic ... who I still keep in touch with.[/size][/QUOTE] [color=crimson]Damn there's a couple of names I haven't heard in awhile. SSJ chic was a really cool cat. I really miss just role playing in earnest. I don't even know if I was good at it most of the time back then or now but I know that's where a foundation in writing began. Big Brother II was just such a blast between Tori, Kei and I. I never thought that was the event that Flash wanted since we more or less just overran it with this crazy adventure but it was a blast, it is probably the jewel in all the roleplays I've been in. The plushie version of me was really neat, I remember Tori drew a picture of him one time and I thought that was very nice of her. I don't really consider myself to be the kind of person who constantly wants to be popular, I'm kind of unassuming, but every once in awhile it's interesting to have something you say or do around here get a little bit of spotlight. Big Brother II, man. Most fun I've ever had on this message board.[/color]

[quote name='Clurr'][FONT="Arial"]Every where I go, I can't escape them. There are always little kids wearing those dumb shoes, and they don't have the willpower to just WALK in them. I really don't know why I hate them so much, but every time I see someone skating with them, I get so angry. [/FONT][/QUOTE] [color=crimson]At my work there were some kids rolling around in them as their parents finished eating. I hated them and I told my coworker I hoped he fell down kind of jokingly. A few minutes later he did this epic face plant into the floor and didn't really get up that quickly. His parents ended up carrying him out of the store and he looked really dazed, I hope he was okay lol. But man that fall was epic, you could have slow mo'ed it and put music to it. Epic.[/color]

[quote name='The13thMan'][COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]Why is it the woman's right to choose?[/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE] [color=crimson]... because it's her body. The guy's "little trooper" making it through isn't really that taxing on the man, he's can be asleep and happily dreaming when his soldiers get through the defensive lines. You know, the rocket's red glare and bombs bursting in air? He isn't involved in that past the euphoria of dropping them off at the front gate to the castle. The entire siege he can't control one way or the other, it's in the hands of his little army. I think that is a sufficient number of war analogies for reproduction at the moment. [/color]

[color=crimson]Atlus must be really.. disappointed.. in the company that printed the first run of art books, I can't imagine how irritating that must be lol. I'm not particularly peeved but I do wonder how peeved they are at having such a popular product being delayed unnecessarily. How is the difficulty in the game Tony?[/color]

[color=crimson]Depending on your friends and where you live you'll probably end up watching a minority of the people you're with now completely screw up their life. It could be someone really close to you, someone you know in your grade slightly. It could end up being you. Hard drugs, cocaine is the one that comes to mind the most for me, can seriously do all the things those advertisements on TV and the propaganda they throw at you in school say they can. Destroy lives. Destroy relationships. Destroy finances. Destroy futures. It can get to that point and it does happen to people, especially with drugs like cocaine. They'll be a guy you know doing harder drugs and you'll ask every few weeks "How's X doing?" and it just never seems to be good news. One of those speedballs will be the last one. I have friends that smoke pot every once in awhile, do some Salvia or shrooms. Artsy, hippie kind of people that are just happy as can be. In college, good grades. They just do some drugs once in awhile. So, I mean, it's a risk. There are some drugs riskier than others. It depends on your personality, depends on what you do, depends on how you respond, depends on your friends/family. I know people who do some drugs and have normal, boring lives. I know others who do them and are just self destructing. It's more complicated than "drugs are for losers lol".[/color]

[color=crimson]I'm pretty fond of randomly dancing at inappropriate or random times. It makes people laugh and, really, just dancing for no reason is pretty fun. My girlfriend is very, uh, tolerant of this surprisingly. I also like to sing songs badly. I can sing pretty well but I have a very versatile voice that can go into many odd pitches, tones and I can make many weird noises. So I can take something classic, like American Pie, and belt it out like a Gremlin or something. Very fun as well. Ahh the joys of torturing the art of music.[/color]

[color=crimson]Pre ordered mine a couple of weeks ago. I've waited for it for awhile, this and Growlanser 5 are the two games I'm waiting for this summer. Will talk about it more post-release.[/color]

[color=crimson]When I joined in October 2k1 I was playing an MMORPG called "Lineage: The Blood Pledge" who had a high-level boss monster which was named [url=http://www.lineage.com/cgi-bin/npc_browser.pl?action=show&id=1420]Death Knight[/url]. I just borrowed it and never thought to change it. My usernames over time are plentiful. NorthernKhan, Destroyer, SamsaPerhaps, Samsa, Narna, NarnaKitan, Zhukov and many others. I use Zhukov, SamsaPerhaps and DeathKnight the most these days. I admire Georgy Zhukov's work in World War 2 as being realistically harsh in the face of a campaign that almost destroyed a nation. Gregor Samsa is the protagonist of Kafka's 'The Metamorphosis' which is a fantastic short story that I wish more people would read. Other names up there are mostly from characters I roleplayed as. There was another guy around here, Corey, who was originally named DarkOrderKnight and between the two of us it kind of felt cheesy/prototypical for awhile to be named DeathKnight. A dark, brooding warrior, oooohhh. I doubt being fourteen and spamming up the boards with worthless stuff really helped the name seem mature. Over time though I believe it's grown with me. I don't consider it cheesy anymore especially in comparison to other usernames around OtakuBoards. I consider myself to be relatively well-informed on most matters and do my best not to post when I have no idea what I'm talking about. I do enjoy attacking people but, really, that's more of a quirk than a character flaw, isn't it? ;) I consider changing your username to be rather lame and have decided to stick with it. Even if I was Inuyasha555 I'd stick with it. Make your bed, you lie in it.. even with something as mundane as a username. Plus, from personal observation, once you start changing it there seems to be a trend where you are never satisfied with what you have changed it to and keep changing it. I suppose I'll be a rotted corpse with armor permanently here.[/color]

[color=crimson]All this pseudo-apocalyptic talk of 'hey, babies come from hetero sexxorz guys' reminds me of a book I once read which might interest people who love to wonder about those kinds of things called [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forever_War]The Forever War[/url]. Check it out if you are so inclined. DB, the Bible is believed to be the word of God primarily because it says it is and Christianity believes in the accuracy of the text's history. You have to realize to Christians it is not just a book, it is a book that was written by humans inspired by Jehovah and tells of his teachings, laws, miracles and the saga of Jesus eventual birth, life, death and beyond into the future apocalypse. Though it was authored by humans the point is that the authorship and writings were influenced by the God they worship. When someone says "the Bible says X" it is usually just their interpretation of it as there are literally dozens of different ways the Bible has been, currently is, and will be viewed. This is most evident by the hundreds of separate sects that have existed within the broader name of "Christianity". Theologians, Biblical scholars, Middle Eastern Historians, and Archaeologists just bring more complex thoughts to what the Bible says, if the Bible is true, if events in the Bible happened, etc. It's more complicated than "why do you believe in a mere book".[/color]

[color=crimson]I am against homosexuality. I do fear for the state of our society when homosexuality is so allowed as it is. What will children think when people are allowed freedom to love as they wish? The impression of an accepting and open society could seriously compromise their morality. I'm unsure of what kind of a future they would mold if their impressionable minds were showed such acceptance. Ungodly and sincerely horrid. I am aware that societies in Japan, China, Ancient Rome, Ancient Greece, Persia and Native America allowed or embraced homosexuality to varying degrees without any dire effects but remain adamantly certain that, inexplicably, after over a thousand years of homosexuality having a presence on Earth it is suddenly harmful. My reasoning for this is primarily attained from the Christian spiritual text where it says thus: "And God looked down upon the Earth and said, 'By the way dude, do not **** another man. I will seriously come down there. You don't want that.' Thus Jeremiah looked up to the LORD awkwardly and said, 'King of Kings, Almighty One, dost thou not knock?'" Now knowing this to be the same God who, when his prophet was mocked by little children, sent out two she bears to [url=http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Kings%202:23-2:25;&version=31;]kill over forty of them[/url] you do not want to mess with him. Such a loving, wise and kind God must have reason to not want love to be as such. Questioning that would remove me from believing and apply critical reasoning to that which, I believe, is also a sin elsewhere. To add to the Sodom and Gomorrah discussion, all sardonic text aside, no. It is not a definite thing as to what it is that caused the city to be destroyed. It was either inhospitality (A very big thing to Judiasm at the time), sodomy or a combination of several of these kinds of sins. The interpretation of the "Why" of the cities' destruction has been tailored and pieced together depending upon whom you listen to.[/color]

[color=crimson]I was hoping to include the larger players that the Abrahamic God replaced. The number of which would depend ultimately on the scope of the players involved and how long it goes. The pool we have to tap into includes a wide variety of Gods, ranging from Native American traditions to Norse to the Greek/Roman/Etruscan pool of Gods and beyond. This is without tapping into the Dharmic mythologies around the Indian subcontinent and China's mythologies, the deities within both perhaps feeling the pressure of the world beyond them paying allegiance and giving power to, ultimately, one God. There is much we could work into it as roleplayers but that would depend on how far and deep it becomes.[/color]

[quote name='Premonition'][COLOR="Navy"]They overreact sometimes. God what's the matter with you people?![/COLOR][/QUOTE] [color=crimson]We're reading your naive and pseudo-intellectual posts and coming away with headaches. Headaches make OBers grumpy.[/color]

[color=crimson]... Excerpts from texts and books owned by the Nephilim... "He conquers all, YHWH takes all it touches; even now the Roman Gods have succumbed to his will. Indeed, in time his grasp will touch beyond the Empire into the North and East, across the Sea and into unknown lands. The old Gods continue to fall and he spreads across the land virulently." - The Book of the Forgotten Gods. "Odin is not defeated, He and all the Aesir have fled to rebuild. They will return and fight against Him, they will fight His fearsome power and will rebuild Asgard. In vengeance YHWH will call upon all his armies and the battle will cause the blood spilt to fall from the very heavens. All will hear the passing of Odin on that day." - On the Fall of Odin and the passing of His splendor. ~-~ Real word facts thus far: * The Book of Enoch is an actual book that is not considered Biblical canon by any but the Ethiopian orthodox church. The text given is the actual story as presented there in. * Nephilim are described in the Bible as being monstrous hybrids of Fallen Angels and Humans. Their existence, combined with Man's increasing evil, lead to the Great Deluge which supposedly destroyed all of life on Earth except for Noah and a small stock of animals. * The mention of Third Heaven is a part of Jewish mysticism which divides Heaven into seven parts with various attributes. Any questions can be answered here.[/color]

[color=crimson]The black wasps swarmed ahead of me in a gigantic cloud. Their loud buzz roared throughout my head. They pulsate and shift erratically, alive and seething at being cornered. "{There is nothing here, childe.}" A voice speaks in guttural lurches. "{Your search is in vain.}" "{Where is he? I do not have time to waste watching your putrid form.}" I said and clenched my fist. "{If you have no information for me then perhaps it is time to dispense of you.}" "{Nephilim, do you not have concern for what it is you are doing to this planet?}" The wasps coiled upwards into a writhing column. "{Will you accept nothing less than total annihilation?}" "{[b]He[/b] accepted nothing less in regards to us.}" I unclenched my fist and held out a black marble in front of the wasps. The wasps writhing slowed as It looked at the marble. "{[b]He[/b] has conquered most of us. Who are you to judge [b]Him[/b]?}" I cast the marble down and flowing scripts of Aramaic appeared on the ground around it. Coils and ribbons of lights whipped up from the marble and lashed at the wasps. "{As he judged, so shall he be judged.}" The ribbons grew and strung around the cloud, lashing it down towards the marble. The wasps let out a cry as they were sucked down into the marble. The seal trapped the entire essence of the creature within it, leaving nothing left. I crushed the marble beneath my feet and spit on the ground next to the dust. "Worthless." -~- Excerpt from the Book of Enoch, the story of the Fathers of the Nephilim and the cleansing of the Earth: And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.' And Semjâzâ, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' Then sware they all together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Samîazâz, their leader, Arâkîba, Râmêêl, Kôkabîêl, Tâmîêl, Râmîêl, Dânêl, Êzêqêêl, Barâqîjâl,Asâêl, Armârôs, Batârêl, Anânêl, Zaqîêl, Samsâpêêl, Satarêl, Tûrêl, Jômjâêl, Sariêl. These are their chiefs of tens. And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones. And Azâzêl taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjâzâ taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, 'Armârôs the resolving of enchantments, Barâqîjâl (taught) astrology, Kôkabêl the constellations, Êzêqêêl the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiêl the signs of the earth, Shamsiêl the signs of the sun, and Sariêl the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven... And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the earth. And they said one to another: 'The earth made without inhabitant cries the voice of their cryingst up to the gates of heaven. And now to you, the holy ones of heaven, the souls of men make their suit, saying, "Bring our cause before the Most High."' And they said to the Lord of the ages: 'Lord of lords, God of gods, King of kings, and God of the ages, the throne of Thy glory (standeth) unto all the generations of the ages, and Thy name holy and glorious and blessed unto all the ages! Thou hast made all things, and power over all things hast Thou: and all things are naked and open in Thy sight, and Thou seest all things, and nothing can hide itself from Thee. Thou seest what Azâzêl hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which men were striving to learn: And Semjâzâ, to whom Thou hast given authority to bear rule over his associates. And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins. And the women have borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness. And now, behold, the souls of those who have died are crying and making their suit to the gates of heaven, and their lamentations have ascended: and cannot cease because of the lawless deeds which are wrought on the earth. And Thou knowest all things before they come to pass, and Thou seest these things and Thou dost suffer them, and Thou dost not say to us what we are to do to them in regard to these.' Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech, and said to him: 'Go to Noah and tell him in my name "Hide thyself!" and reveal to him the end that is approaching: that the whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is about to come upon the whole earth, and will destroy all that is on it. And now instruct him that he may escape and his seed may be preserved for all the generations of the world.' And again the Lord said to Raphael: 'Bind Azâzêl hand and foot, and cast him into the darkness: and make an opening in the desert, which is in Dûdâêl, and cast him therein. And place upon him rough and jagged rocks, and cover him with darkness, and let him abide there for ever, and cover his face that he may not see light. And on the day of the great judgement he shall be cast into the fire. And heal the earth which the angels have corrupted, and proclaim the healing of the earth, that they may heal the plague, and that all the children of men may not perish through all the secret things that the Watchers have disclosed and have taught their sons. And the whole earth has been corrupted through the works that were taught by Azâzêl: to him ascribe all sin.' And to Gabriel said the Lord: 'Proceed against the bastards and the reprobates, and against the children of fornication: and destroy the children of fornication and the children of the Watchers from amongst men and cause them to go forth: send them one against the other that they may destroy each other in battle.' And destroy all the spirits of the reprobate and the children of the Watchers, because they have wronged mankind. Destroy all wrong from the face of the earth and let every evil work come to an end: and let the plant of righteousness and truth appear: and it shall prove a blessing; the works of righteousness and truth' shall be planted in truth and joy for evermore. And then shall all the righteous escape, And shall live till they beget thousands of children, And all the days of their youth and their old age Shall they complete in peace. And then shall the whole earth be tilled in righteousness, and shall all be planted with trees and be full of blessing. And all desirable trees shall be planted on it, and they shall plant vines on it: and the vine which they plant thereon shall yield wine in abundance, and as for all the seed which is sown thereon each measure (of it) shall bear a thousand, and each measure of olives shall yield ten presses of oil. And cleanse thou the earth from all oppression, and from all unrighteousness, and from all sin, and from all godlessness: and all the uncleanness that is wrought upon the earth destroy from off the earth. And all the children of men shall become righteous, and all nations shall offer adoration and shall praise Me, and all shall worship Me. ~-~ The cleansing of the Nephilim wrought much destruction upon the Levant region, supposedly wiping clean every single human with blood tainted by the Fallen Angels. Mentioned as a Great Flood within the Bible and as a part of the Epic of Gilgamesh, the regional Apocalypse brought by the God of the Israelites destroyed much of their ranks leaving a hand-full of refugees who fled to lands not controlled by the Israelite God. In due time the God of the Israelites became the God of the Jews, Muslims and Christians. The conquest and subjection of much of the world left the Abrahamic God with control over much of the World's populace. Lurking in the background of his dominion were the descendents of the Nephilim, seething as they lived in a world influenced by him. Their knowledge of Heaven's methods of magic, metallurgy, fortune telling, combat and intimacy with nature left them with the tools to begin an insurrection. Slowly a purpose arose, a bloodlust was awakened. A desire to visit upon the humans around them the same sort of cleansing wrought upon them. The campaign against humanity begins. ~-~ Sign up: [b]Name[/b]: Given or pseudonym. [b]Age[/b]: Your race has lifespans that reach into the thousands. [b]Physical appearance[/b]: Described as being monstrous giants, the Nephilim are simply a different branch of Man. True though it is that their average height is greater, it does not reach into the dozens of feet. A hybrid between spiritual and physical, they have the appearance of mankind. Their physical characteristics are usually very well defined, having a strong, athletic body appearing ready for any exertion. [b]Personality[/b]: Though most are cool and calm when stressed, the depths of their personalities are affected by humanities eccentricities. It is hard to find similar qualities between Nephilim personalities besides an almost universal calm in stressful situations. [b]Capabilities[/b]: All Nephilim are graced with the teachings passed down by the Watchers but, as with humans, most enjoy focusing their time on mastering one or two skills perfectly. The teachings given range from magic, to metallurgy, to greater connections with Earth, to combat both physical and not and beyond. [b]Biography[/b]: (Optional) - [b]Name[/b]: Jesu, first born, keeper of the Rituals, murderer of Gods, Lord of the Four Rivers of Eden. [b]Age[/b]: Unknown, rumored to be the oldest. Possibly dates back to the times of the Cleansing. [b]Physical appearance[/b]: The height of Jesu is impressive by human standards, he stands at 7'1". He appears long and ghastly, his face peppered with facial hair and worn by an unknowable time spent meandering and hiding amongst humanity. His hair is silver and has a dull and dirty appearance to it, as if it too is tired of it's existence. He wears a black hooded robe matched with black gloves and black boots. A ghastly figure to be sure. [b]Personality[/b]: Jesu is a stern, steely character who is usually concerned with getting business done and, other than that, not saying much else. His knowledge he keeps locked in his head and his experiences he rarely tells others. Unlike his comrades he is not interested in siring an heir and has no known family above him. Charisma lurks beneath his business-first atmosphere and he has several younger admirers and a few courtiers. [b]Capabilities[/b]: Jesu is a master of magic from multiple cultures and multiple centuries. He is considered the foremost magician within the Nephilim and some of his deeds have become legendary. The foremost is the tale of his theft of the Four Rivers of Eden from the Third Realm of Heaven, brazenly causing them to disappear from the realm in which God resides.[/color]