[QUOTE=Desbreko][color=#4B0082]Heh. I'm not going to yell at you, but I do disagree.
Again, I'd bring up the fact that movies and even anime are widely recognized as art forms. Yet both of those are also worked on by many people for a living. As well, games are just as capable of conveying a message as any movie or anime. A lot of them don't even bother to try, but then again, a lot of movies and anime don't either.
There are so many parallels between games and movies in this regard that I think it's logically impossible to include one as an art form while exluding the other. It just doesn't make sense.
If you want to limit your definition of "art," you can exlcude both, sure. But I can tell you right now, there'd be a lot of screamers if the government tried to censor movies on the basis that they aren't an art form and not protected under the free speech clause. Which, funnily enough, is what some people are trying to do to video games right now.[/color][/QUOTE]
Yay for not yelling! I get what you are saying, and I don't see a lot of movies as art either. Some of them do have a message, but many don't. Also, art is more than a message, I don't know how to explain it. It's almost impossible to put into words. I'm really serious about art, and I know it is wrong, I guess, to limit what I count as art, but if we keep going at the rate we are, EVERYTHING will be art. A person crumples up paper and it is art suddenly. Don't feel bad about the video games, I hate most modern art too. :p
Oh, and I forgot about the government censorship statement. They don't really censor based on art. Your free speech has nothing to do with art, it's just a right. It applies to other things, like the ability to simple say what you want, as long as it doesn't hurt someone, and that's not art, but it is safe under the 1st amendment.