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[quote name='Clurr][CENTER][img]http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd177/nilsnectar/blurrymeandtegan.png[/img'][/CENTER][/quote] [CENTER][IMG]http://www.nypress.com/images/a&e/tina-fey-30-rock.jpg[/IMG][/CENTER] [FONT="Arial"]...creepy.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]I'm just amused that this obvious statement of confidence and initiative has our resident atheist members still as bitter about the issue as ever, even though the only responder so far who has had a problem with the slogans is an acknowledged atheist himself. ([COLOR="DarkRed"]Raiha[/COLOR] aside, of course. We all know how happy her posts are. :animesmil) What I wonder is how many people the news reporter had to interview to find someone who was that deeply offended by the slogans. If you let your dander get riled by someone telling you to doubt your own convictions 1) what the devil is wrong with you, and 2) are your convictions really that strong to begin with? I'm going to agree with [COLOR="DarkRed"]Shy[/COLOR] about the unhappy bit, though. Most proclaimed atheists I have met in person seem perpetually defensive, especially once they know I'm Christian—at which point I always feel like they're waiting for me to grab a Bible and attack them (as reference or physically; I can never tell). Really depressing to be around. Actually, I found the slogans to be rather clever. My favorite was this one: [INDENT][I]“Atheism: Sleep in on Sunday mornings,”[/I][/INDENT] I admit it. I snerked. :animesmil[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]I have stayed out of this until [COLOR="DarkRed"]Twisted[/COLOR]'s post because I feel that the whole situation is either a protest of religious anonymity or a deliberate trolling of a specific religious community, neither of which I care about. But [COLOR="DarkRed"]Twisted[/COLOR] has a great point. The decision here reflects our views on education, not religion. It shows us that we think it's okay to limit our youths' education. I've had this gripe ever since I've entered public school. Do you know why most kids hate English class or Math class? It's not because the material is hard, but because it's boring. And why is it boring? My first day in 6th-grade math, we went over adding. My first day in 6th-grade English, we went over nouns. I was homeschooled for my elementary years. I already knew how to form most sentence structures, and could do it without thinking about what I was doing. I'd memorised my multiplication tables already, had done so for years. Fortunately for me, I got into higher-level math courses, and was taking Calculus 2 in my senior year of high school. My junior year of high-school english? Nouns. From what I've heard in other countries, there are kids 15-16 already in a college environment, who not only learn English but at least one other language, and both to the point of proficiency. And yet we feel we have to teach our kids about nouns for (assuming starting in second grade) [I]TEN YEARS??[/I] I give kids enough credit to think that they'd be able to grasp the concept after one. Maybe two. And so we get people my age in college general-curriculum classes asking if zero of something means there isn't any of that something. Although that wouldn't have bothered me so badly if that exact same question hadn't been asked four times in the space of five minutes, as if they didn't hear the professor explain the first time. Or second. Or third. [I]*facepalm*[/I][/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]Did you send a message to [COLOR="DarkRed"]Panda[/COLOR] about the issue? I'm certain one of the TheOtaku staff members could reset the coding to its original settings. I'll ask [COLOR="DarkRed"]SunfallE[/COLOR] about that next time I see her.[/FONT]

[quote name='Raunsgaard']Please keep in my mind post is intended to debate this constructively, for me to express my opinion and gain knowledge about others (this somehow contributes to my general picture of the world and how it functions), and not to make any enemies, neither politically nor personally:>[/quote] [FONT=Arial]Always. (^_^) Only reason I ever talk in here, actually. (Well, I aim for that, at least. Don't always work out. >_>) [quote name='Raunsgaard']So I understand the idea that it is not about teaching them that they are wrong, but having a severe consequence to what they did. So the idea is to frighten them? or am I jumping conclusions again?[/quote] For the person who committed the murder, no. At that point, frightening them serves nothing. It's merely a consequence, as I said earlier?a deserving result. If you stick your hand in a fire, you get burned. (Obviously you can't stick your hand in the fire without the fire knowing, so to speak. :p) If you steal money from your parents, and they find out, you lose their trust and faith, and you lose possession of the money you took. If you take a life intentionally, you forfeit your own. Frightening others? Ehh, not as such, no. In this case they are merely being told the truth, which is that if they kill they have given up their right to live. But what I see from this question is that you might think frightening someone is bad, and should not be done no matter what the circumstance. (Correct me if I am mistaken.) And while I do agree that it is mean to frighten people, I see it more as telling someone "if you jump in the fire, you will be very badly burned" or "if you wander away from me you'll get lost". The [I]outcome[/I] may be frightening, but we'd be doing the person a greater disservice if we [I]didn't[/I] tell them what would happen. And the scarier the truth, the more obligated we are to tell it. [CENTER]--------------------[/CENTER] Hey, [COLOR="DarkRed"]Dagger[/COLOR]. [I]*waves back*[/I] [quote name='Dagger']How does this logic apply to other crimes that involve the theft, so to speak, of something irrecoverable? Rape, for instance.[/quote] So basically, what happens to me if I stole your virginity? Or, for that matter, if I stole your innocence, or your loyalty, or your love? Although it can be [I]said[/I] that a person can lose all of these things, I don't think on the case as really one of theft, but one of trespass. Just as a person has no right to make use of your land without your permission, a person has no right to make use of your body, either. Yet trespassing on a person's land is not theft, so the same logic can't apply. Rape and murder are alike in that what was lost?life and virginity?cannot be replaced, but there I think the similarity ends, and also one can be raped many times over (just as one can be stolen from many times over), but you only have the one life. Then, also, you can't really [I]return[/I] rape in kind.... Anyway, bleh to the philosophising. :p You are right; for cases like those there [I]are[/I] no identifiable consequences, and we are only left with the fact that those actions are wrong, and must turn to the law for recompense. And what the law administers then is a 'deemed fitting' punishment. [QUOTE][I]And as for the crimes that do have logical consequences--well, I'd say that there are cases where implementing them would be monstrous.[/I][/QUOTE] Like in the case of [URL="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/12840743/porks_dirty_secret_the_nations_top_hog_producer_is_also_one_of_americas_worst_polluters"][COLOR="Blue"]Smithfield pigs[/COLOR][/URL], where "...[f]ixing the problem [I][the damage to the environment][/I] completely would bankrupt the company." (5). Yes, I agree. However, if a prominent government (or recreational) figurehead were to commit murder, the worst that their execution (shudder at the word :p) would cause would be a massive uproar in the populace?O.J. Simpson comes to mind. [QUOTE][I]Is life the only priceless commodity out there? Can we then put a price on everything else?[/I][/QUOTE] Certainly not. To both, actually. The basic problem is that we cannot deal with every crime as if it were the same as every other crime. And that's why I do not think one can fairly equate rape with thievery; a rapist may or may not take something from their victim, but they [I]always[/I] do something [I]to[/I] their victim. [QUOTE][I]You make it sound like the law is the enforcer of some kind of primal principle, but that seems awfully eye-for-eye to me.[/I][/QUOTE] In truth, the law [I]is[/I] eye-for-eye. The law is merciless, black and white. If you have done wrong, you must suffer the consequences. Humans, however, are [I]not[/I] black and white, and we are singularly capable of mercy. Even if a person deserves the death penalty, we are not bound by the law to give it to them. Let that point be clear. I am a strong supporter of the death penalty. But I am strongly [U]against[/U] the [I]unconditional administration[/I] of it.[/FONT]

[quote name='Indi'][COLOR="Indigo"][FONT="Arial"] Especially since I find the fact that their [spoiler]opponent is so scantly dressed[/spoiler] amusing.[/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE] [FONT=Arial]Then again, wasn't that the plan? Or did you forget? :p[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]I'd like to point out here, since the topic has come up, that the death penalty is NOT a [I]punishment[/I] (a measure designed to instruct and correct), but a [I]consequence[/I]?a deserved result one one's action. I have heard statements like [COLOR="DarkRed"]Xeonn[/COLOR]'s and [COLOR="DarkRed"]Raunsgaard[/COLOR]'s before; and though I recognise that the ideal is well-intentioned (stemming from a desire to rid society of murder, which is by no means a cause to be scorned), I always feel as if a small aspect of the situation is overlooked, and so I am always forced to disagree that the penalty should not be used. But in order to show why I disagree, I think I should start with how I agree. [quote name='Xeonn']...taking someone's life doesn't teach him ... a lesson....[/quote] This is a very good point, for how can someone learn from their mistakes and punishments if they are no longer alive? It is impossible. Once one is dead, one is gone from this world, and so using the death penalty to say "You've been a bad boy; don't kill people anymore, it's wrong" is completely pointless. So then the idea that murderers are being punished understandably makes no sense. But let's consider another case: one where something of value was stolen, the criminal captured and convicted, and the item(s) recovered. The punishment for the criminal here is jail time. The [I]consequence[/I] is that they must reimburse the owner of the stolen article(s), and often above and beyond the original value. The logic here is simple: you have taken something that is not yours, and you must give it back. But say the article(s) cannot be recovered. Not much difference then, except that the convicted person must reimburse the wronged by an equivalent (or greater, depending on the court ruling) value. Now, I am by no means attempting to trivialise the value of a human life. To the contrary, that pricelessness is key to my support of the death penalty. If a person kills another, they have taken a life that [I]was not theirs to take[/I] ... but they cannot give that life back. [quote name='Raunsgaard']One of the core principles I base this upon, is the fundamental thing that another being can never than the right, and "high enough authority" to take another persons life, whether or not the law says so.[/quote] Yes. To do so is murder. BUT. That fact does not erase the debt that [I]must[/I] be paid. And because life is priceless, it cannot in good conscience have any material price set upon it. The only compensation that has the possibility for equal value is another life. In other words, once you kill someone, [I]your life is forfeit.[/I] [U]You[/U] have consigned yourself to death. Your life is the payment for your actions, and the law is merely the enforcer. Now that I have established the point, I feel obligated to note the exceptions we as humans have rationalised. First, in wartime people kill people. It is the nature of war, and no matter who wins, the deaths are always justified for the victors. The aggressors will have justified their actions before they have even begun (and those who hold the power will never prosecute themselves), and the defenders will have been left with little other recourse but to kill and justify their actions afterward. Second, and similar to part of the first, is killing in self-defense, for again the person when attacked is left with little alternative. Last, if a person kills by accident, whatever the circumstance, the consequence will be mitigated because the [I]intent[/I] was absent. Apart from that, the death penalty is required of the person who killed. The law did not take it upon itself to decide the offender needs to die, but it [I]is[/I] necessary for the enforcement, for there are few cases where a person will offer their own life voluntarily after committing murder. As to whether it "teaches anyone else a lesson", I find the point unfortunately unarguable, for either side of this point is merely optimism or pessimism. On the one hand you have the ideal that the death penalty [I]should[/I] be a deterrent for those who kill (i.e., this is what happens when you take a life), and on the other you have the unfortunate reality that those who need to be deterred from murder will not care and will still try to get away with murder because, like in the case of war above, they feel justified in what they do. I do not like the death penalty. When I see or hear of people who "got what they deserved", I feel no sense of satisfaction or vindication. But I believe that it is necessary, and will be as long as there are murderers. [CENTER]----------------[/CENTER] To the original topic, this news to me merely shows how far a person will go to escape responsibility. I mean, there really aren't any downsides for him. On the one hand if he gets away with murder, he never has to pay child support again. On the other hand, if he goes to jail for life, or if he gets the death sentence, he never has to pay child support again. Really, he got what he wanted no matter how you look at it.[/FONT]

[quote name='Mr. Blonde']This is me calling you out.[/quote] [FONT=Arial]And this is me kindly reminding you that I don't take kindly to trolling in my area. (^_^) Reminds me of a guy I knew who tried to sell drugs to one of his high-school teachers during class.[/FONT]

[size=3][align=justify]The man in the [i]Adept[/i]�s command chair uncrossed and recrossed his legs and checked his chrono, resting his head on his other fist. Twenty minutes longer and his shift would be over, giving him seven free hours until he reported to oversee operations on his own ship. He�d heard the mess was serving ham, beans, and potatoes. Hopefully the kitchen hadn�t garnished the ham with pineapples today. He hated that. Stifling a yawn, he brushed absently at his commander�s stripes and wished he hadn�t looked at the time. Those twenty minutes would now seem like hours until his release. As he turned back around he caught sight of one of the navigation officers leaning forward over their console. The officer appeared to make a few adjustments to the readout; the CO straightened. [b]�You have something, Gregson?�[/b] [b]�I . . . I think so, sir.� [/b] The lieutenant made another adjustment. [b]�Unknown contact on passive sensors, bearing oh-two-seven mark oh-one-four. Course appears to be parallel to fleet current heading, and contact is holding cruising speed.�[/b] [b]�How long until the contact enters active sensor range?�[/b] [b]�Three minutes, sir.�[/b] The commander nodded and leaned back in his chair. [b]�Tactical, go to yellow alert.�[/b] He depressed the chair�s comm switch. [b]�Attention all hands, this is the [i]Adept[/i]. Commander Sauvage, report to the [i]Adept [/i]bridge. We have a possible unauthorized vessel inbound and will be entering confirmation range in three minutes. All ships prepare for emergency flight protocol and await rendezvous point transmission. This is not a drill. Repeat, all ships prepare for emergency flight protocol. Initiating intership comm blackout now.�[/b] The commander swiveled the chair around. [b]�Ops,�[/b] he continued, [b]�keep me apprised of fleet connection status. Tactical, get the Hub working on routes to the beta asteroid field. Helm, begin transfer of helm control back to the other ships. We have ninety seconds.�[/b] A chorus of sirs sounded and the Adept bridge erupted into furious activity.[/size] [center][size=3]-----------------------[/size][/center] [size=3]As soon as the announcement finished, Gillam was at the mic to the isolation chamber. [b]�Asteroid, [i]Bastion[/i]. We are under inbound warning, two minutes to contact. Divers, prep for extraction on my mark.�[/b] On the screen, two officers, who had been standing by in wetsuits, rushed to the edge of the pool nearest Scorer�s location, hurriedly donning masks, flippers, and a temporary breather. Sewall stood over the shoulder of the officer monitoring the gas mixture. [b]�Filtering mixture now,�[/b] said the officer. [b]�Vital signs are dropping. Subject is entering subconscious in . . . four, three, two, one.�[/b] [b]�Divers, go,�[/b] barked Gillam. As the divers broke the liquid�s surface, the display shifted to a submerged view, where the two divers monitoring Scorer had grasped the prisoner�s arms and begun lifting him towards the surface. The standby pair met them halfway and took possession of the prisoner, lifting him the rest of the way. Once out of the pool, the second pair tossed aside their gear and masks and hurried Scorer to a waiting gurney while the pair on duty stripped from their tanks and other cumbersome equipment. The four officers rushed the gurney to the room�s exit.[/size] [center][size=3]-----------------------[/size][/center] [size=3][b]�Ops, status,� [/b]called the commander as Sauvage strode through the bridge doors. [b]�Fleet has full autonomy. [i]Chevalier[/i], [i]Melisande[/i], [i]Squall[/i], and [i]Zenith [/i]are clear. Still waiting on [i]Bastion[/i].�[/b] [b]�Helm!�[/b] [b]�Twenty seconds to active range, sir.�[/b] [b]�[i]Bastion [/i]is coming about. Transport doors still active.�[/b] [b]�Fifteen seconds to intercept.�[/b] The commander glanced at Sauvage, but the man looked no more intense than usual. [b]�Ten seconds.�[/b] [b]�Five bodies through port bow door. [i]Bastion [/i]is clear. All ships clear.�[/b] [b]�Five seconds.�[/b] [b]�All ships confirm rendezvous navigation procedures.�[/b] [b]�Three. Two. One. Contact.�[/b] The bridge fell silent. The commander felt compelled to pace, but Sauvage�s impassive stance held him in his chair. The seconds dragged on. The nav officer leaned back. [b]�Contact is maintaining course and speed. No indication they�ve detected us.�[/b] Sauvage nodded. [b]�Reform the group,�[/b] he ordered. [b]�Order the [i]Melisande [/i]to shadow the vessel until we�re certain it hasn�t seen anything, and find out what it was doing out here. Cooper, you�re relieved.�[/b] [b]�Thank you, sir,� [/b]responded the commander. [b]�You have the bridge.�[/b][/align][/size]

[FONT="Arial"]"Relieved" in more ways than one. :p[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]I'm going to be sitting this contest out. (I won the last contest hosted in here, and I don't think that's really right. :p) But I'll be sure to vote for every match. Good luck, all of you![/FONT]

[quote name='Gavin][SIZE="1"']Give it time, things are starting to look up.[/SIZE][/quote] [FONT=Arial]Excuse me while I spew my soda all over my monitor. [I]Seriously[/I], Gav? :animesmil I think I remember saying the same thing when that Farscape mini-series was announced to appease the hordes of us crying for our promised season. And we all know how [I]that[/I] turned out. On the upside, I might actually start reading this thing, just so my current chuckles can be magnified to a laughter somewhat more riotous. And then Ace-ole-boy'll have one more viewer! [spoiler]Yes, Gavin, I [I]am[/I] going to continue to make fun of you for having hope. It's what I do. (^_^)[/spoiler][/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]Oh, now this is interesting. In the second to last page, if I'm correct, the Syaoran clone whispered in the unconscious (dead?) Syaoran's ear. Now, I wonder what that could be about....[/FONT]

[FONT="Arial"][URL="http://www.imeem.com/ryukyuman/music/HaPxeUHf/rhodes_singers_salvation_is_created/"][COLOR="Blue"]This.[/COLOR][/URL] Choir only, started after I've begun burning. Nothing else.[/FONT]

Benedictus A midnight breeze whispered its way through the city park. The trees swayed gently as it blew, the rustling of their branches chasing away the night's silence with a quiet murmuring. The grass rippled in soft waves; a squirrel paused in its rummaging and straightened, looking sharply about before dashing for shelter. A few stray leaves skittered down the concrete path towards the park's fountain, where the falling spray was caught by the wind and drifted out into the night air. If anyone had been around to pay attention, they might have thought that, for just an instant, the mist changed directions, or that one of the leaves on the path was caught for just a moment in an eddy against the current. If anyone had been around, they might have noticed a tree shake out of rhythm with the others, or a patch of grass that skipped an undulation. But even if they had, by the time they looked again the disturbance would be gone. Sixty yards from the fountain, about two blocks from the park's edge, a blonde shinigami in a white shirt and capris appeared out of the air, dropping to one knee, her breathing labored. With an effort, she straightened, drew in a lungful of air, set herself, and disappeared. Chris reappeared twenty yards further on, midstride. She stumbled and crashed to the ground, gasping for air. Violent coughs racked her body as she struggled to her hands and knees, retching blood. A frustrated cry escaped her lips, her balled-up fists crushing blades of grass in her struggle to bring her body under control. After a few minutes Chris's fit had all but subsided. Sitting back on her heels, she sighed and drew an arm across her eyes, the athletic tape on her forearm soaking up the tears that had sprung disobediently from them. She gave one last light cough, tightened the bandages on her chest, and rose to her feet, leaning forward on her knees to take a series of deep breaths. Her eyes closed in concentration, and in between breaths she chanted a series of phrases in a graceful, flowing tongue. Satisfied, she raised her eyes, looking intently down the remainder of the park's lawn. She remained this way for a momentâ??breathing and staringâ??and then arched backwards in a long, laborious stretch, her torso snapping forward at its conclusion. Taking a few measured strides, she resummoned her scythe-daggers, which had vanished upon her collapse a few minutes prior. Her jaw set, and snapping her arms to either side, she vanished again. A second later she reappeared briefly four stories in the air, hovering inches from the edge of the roof of the tenant-building across the street from the park. A grin split her face, and she disappeared.

[FONT=Arial]Speaking of video game music, the [B]Lost Odyssey[/B] soundtrack is absolutely amazing. Any, [I]any[/I] of the full-orchestral tracks are just . . . holy Moses. And so I've been listening to it for about the past five days.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]Before I make any other comments about your fan fiction here, might I suggest that in the future, when you copy-paste from Word, you double-enter each line so that the paragraphs are separated?like I went ahead and did for you. (^_^) Simple tab indents don't carry over to the OB postboxes, and seeing everything smushed together doesn't make for a fun read. If you want to indent your paragraphs, OB's code does support a feature where you can indent the first line of a paragraph. When you're posting, click the large [SIZE="1"][FONT="Verdana"][COLOR="Navy"][B]Help[?][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] button in the upper right. The usage of the tags are pretty clearly explained there.[/FONT]

[FONT="Arial"]Unfortunately, the swear filter rendered your link defunct. I'd suggest altering the file name to something that won't get auto-censored. :p[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]I has [I]momentous[/I] news! As of . . . sometime very recently, OtakuBoards has been graced with a new official couple. And at the risk of thoroughly embarrassing . . . oh, frill it, who cares? [CENTER][IMG]http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/6228/pzale15182152t400le4.jpg[/IMG][/CENTER] CONGRATULATIONS [COLOR="DarkRed"]INDI[/COLOR] AND [COLOR="DarkRed"]NATHAN[/COLOR] ON YOUR ENGAGEMENT!! [I]*throws god-mod confetti*[/I][/FONT]

[quote name='Gavin][SIZE="1"]Happily Ever After from TTGL is playing [B]in[/B] the background [B]as[/B] Pein dispatches Fat Melee Pein [B]to[/B] deal [B]with[/B] the new intruder [B]who[/B] promptly leaps [B]from[/B] Gamabunta charging a Rasengan [B]with[/B] one hand and slamming it [B]into[/B] the FM Pein [B]who[/B'] laughs off the attack saying it's not going to harm him:[/SIZE][/quote] [FONT=Arial]I don't think there were enough prepositions in that sentence. Come on, [COLOR=DarkRed]Gavin[/COLOR], surely you can do better. Sadly, I'm afraid that Kishimoto would have a [I]lot[/I] of pre-scene justification to do before that idea could be called epic. Although now that we're ripping off franchises, I [I]do[/I] see a text box appearing on the bottom of the screen that says "It's not very effective...." And then FMP uses Body Slam and we're rid of one more nuisance. Hoo-ahh.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]And here I was thinking Deus Ex was relatively new. What about the old DOS versions of Commander Keene? I'm pretty sure they're basically public domain now, might be easier to get ahold of free. Plus, the stun gun and pogo stick were the best weapon set ever.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]The Beach Boys. In 8th grade, my algebra teacher would play them for anything work-related we did in class: homework, classwork, 'fun' worksheets, discussion/party time, tests. The only song I can listen to by them now, without feeling like I want to find someone very happy and murder them, is "Kokomo". And even that's pushing it.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]And people wonder why I don't read or watch the news anymore. Half of the issue is that, like many other facets of this country, news is now a Business. The primary motivating goal is the making of money. If a company can get more patronage through running 'popular' stories, instead of informative stories, then the popular wins out. This is not a new phenomenon. Colleges are the same way. Insofar as I've taken the science courses required for most students this semester, I have yet to hear one item that was not covered in high school courses. I literally slept during classes, on the front row, because I merely needed to be reminded of what I already knew—and I would wake up to make a counter-point to the professor or provide an alternate view on a particular concept. And in parallel with the movie [I]critics[/I], the advertised [I]movies[/I] have also plummeted in in quality. Where were the trailers and promos for [I]A Scanner Darkly[/I]? I learned of its existence a full year and a half ago by seeing it lying on my roommate's desk, and it is one of the single best movies I've ever watched. The movies I do see advertised I barely have to think for. [I]Jumper[/I] was transparent from the first preview; [I]Wanted[/I] was the same; [I]Beowulf[/I] looked so blended with [I]300[/I] that I no longer recognised it; and let's just not get into [I]Indiana Jones and the Screenplay of Fail[/I]. (I may rant about this elsewhere later.) I'm not surprised by the article at all. And the truest point? [QUOTE][FONT="Arial"][I]It is about the death of an intelligent and curious, readership, interested in significant things and able to think critically.[/I][/FONT][/QUOTE] Hail Dionysus.[/FONT]

[QUOTE=Lawliet]1. The original possessor of the super special eye condition was a black haired child named Nagato. 2. Pein’s bodies are all people who have died and have been reanimated. 3. All of the bodies have strange piercing that are secretly charka receptors (I am assuming they can only receive signals, not send them) 4. All of the bodies have the super special eye condition, but for the most part don’t take advantage of all of the things it can do (performing every jutsu) 5. Jiriya told us that there is no real one 6. When not active all of the bodies ‘sleep’ on weird beds connected to some machine. 7. Bodies also switch between each other (Deva switched to Animal to fight Jiriya) 8. Animal summoned bodies to battle and they preformed independently of each other, while working together perfectly. 9. Bodies survive throw heavy damage and able to still operate some what normally. 10. Pein has used abilities that are not listed above.[/QUOTE] [FONT=Arial]Forgive my semi-unwarranted entry, but I took one look at this list and got a decidedly cyber-punk vibe. And as a master of "there is too much **** in this material", I'm pretty sure I can sense when there is too much **** in material. Although I never followed Naruto very much because I just felt the characters were atrocious, I've not really felt like judging the storyline so far. And really, I didn't mind the setting/content/concepts presented. But this.... If my impression is correct, made only from that list, I don't think I can respect this series. Ever.[/FONT]

[FONT="Arial"]I'm sorry for this.[/FONT] [CENTER][IMG]http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/11/27/128722884271922003.jpg[/IMG][/CENTER]