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[QUOTE='.:[ Revy ]:.;787537']What music is blaring your ear drums? Music that you're jamming to, thinking about a lover to, crying to, moshing to, getting crunk to, anything! Music sets the mood, what song are you currently feeling? ----- "Plot for a Little" - [B]Camu Tao[/B] (As heard in the Blood+ commercial on AdultSwim) [I]I'm not sayin' my body is shameless and I'm not sayin' I'm layin' with Satan...[/I][/QUOTE] Love Me Dead by Ludo. They are an indie band. ^3^

[quote name='The13thMan'][FONT="Tahoma"]Evolution vs. Intelligent Design I just started classes yesterday at the University of Tennessee. This is my third year and I?ve decided to move back into the dorms for a year, for various irrelevant reasons. I?ve got a brand new roommate who happens to be a freshman. So here I am, college man, with this fresh blood, young-gilled, first year. The first real discussion we have involves evolution vs. intelligent design. I take the side of science and reason (evolution), where as he takes the side of faith and religion (intelligent design). I?d say it was a pretty good discussion, though I think if a third party were to listen in they?d say I somewhat blind sided him, as I?ve been following the topic relatively closely for over a year. And thus I decided to bring the discussion over to OB! ?Partly because there?s nothing interesting going on in the lounge right now. As usual I don?t want to get too deeply into the subject on the introductory post. I much prefer that somebody else jumps into the shallow end before I do. But I will start it out. Firstly I?d like to briefly explain what intelligent design is. I may not do a great job, as I don?t support it. If anybody here wants to expand on my definition of intelligent design I welcome them to. Intelligent design makes the assumption that the world as it is is too complex to have been created by an undirected process such as natural selection. Instead they claim that the world must have been created with an initial design in mind by some vague and unnamed supernatural force (god?). Intelligent designers claim that it is a scientific theory and should be taught as one. My main beef with intelligent design (which will be henceforth abbreviated as ?ID?) is that it tries very hard to disguise itself as science. This is because it wants to be taught alongside evolution in the high school science classrooms. IDers complain that ID should be taught with evolution as a counter-theory for fairness, after all why shouldn?t both theories be taught? They say that students should be presented with ?both sides of the story? so that they can make up their own minds on the issue. And I happen to agree that both sides should be presented to a young person so that they can think on their own and come to their own conclusion, the problem with what the IDers want is that they want it taught in the science classrooms. ID is not science, therefore it has no place in the science classroom. It has no testable hypothesis and cannot be disproven, therefore it is not a true scientific theory. Instead it is simply creationist propaganda. I want to also provide some links for you guys to check out: This first one is the wikipedia definition of intelligent design. I've only read the first bit of it but it already seemed a bit biased against it. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design[/URL] This link is paper written by Steven Novella MD. It's anti-ID and a good read if you're interested on the subject. [URL="http://www.theness.com/articles.asp?id=31"]http://www.theness.com/articles.asp?id=31[/URL] This last link is a link to the Discovery Institute's main page. This is the headquarters of intelligent design and a website i'm not very familiar with. [URL="http://www.discovery.org/"]http://www.discovery.org/[/URL] [/FONT][/QUOTE] Everyone has their own opinions, and here is mine: ID and evolution are both theories, and I am for both. Evolution is a plausible theory when it comes to organisms evolving over time, but how could a one celled organism appear out of thin air? ID is a good theory in giving us an answer for everything on earth, but how could some kind of being (or deity for that matter) also appear out of thin air? I do believe in God, but the truth is that we may never know until afterlife.

[quote name='chibi-master']Okay, E.D. stated in a different thread that being gay or lesbian was wrong. And rather than be an a** and spam up The 13th Man's thread with that arguement, I decided to start this thread. Okay, I personally believe that there is nothing wrong with a person being bi, les or gay. People can love whomever they wish. But I understand that some people dissagree. I don't understand why, though. And since I know someone will bring this up, YES, I KNOW that the bible says being bi, lesbian or gay is wrong. My rebutle is, DO YOUR OWN D*** THINKING AND STOP LETTING THE BIBLE DO IT FOR YOU!!! Anyway, your opinion please? And by the way, please be civil, guys. I don't need a bunch of "EEEW!!! DATS SO MESSED UP!!! WTF?!?!", okay?[/QUOTE] I totally agree with you; I haven't seen this guy's thread, but I know that being a part of the GLBTQ is nothing to be ashamed of. Being bisexual myself, I know that God still loves me and everyone even if you have feelings of infatuation for someone of the same sex. :3