Transtic Nerve

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Navi [/i] [B]serve my country? no. im still trying to decide if we were justified in bombing japan with nuclear weapons. i read that we just needed a reason to test the bombs. i don't know if i'd want us (the US) to bomb/attack another country because they're 'harboring' (the) terrorist(s) and kill more innocent people. is that what you call justice? [/B][/QUOTE] To people bent on revenge for what they did to their familiy, yes.... to a person who thinks what they are doing and the possible consequences, no.... justice is finding these people and these people involved ONLY and putting them to death. thats the only true justice... anything else is revenge, and only revenge.... there is no such thing as Justice in war.... there is no honor in war... only death...

Douitashimashi?e (In English: You're welcome) I've very pleased on the maturity level of the board members during this terrible attack. Although some of you jumped t o conclutions and had a strong sense of natural human responce of revenge, the over all feeling had us all down. deepest condolences go out to EVERYONE involved one way or another in this horrific tragedy. May you all be blessed by the gods.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Seifer [/i] [B]I respect pacifists but I do not agree with them. Pacifism does nothign to deter war. My gosh even Gundam Wing pointed out that. If everyone could be pacifists it would work. Theres a presence of evil in the world that weill always be here. With that presence of evil you will need t protect yourself against it. Evil is not going away. No matter what there will always be murders, terrorism, crimes, and so on. Pacifism is like just ignoring it saying i am not going to deal with it. I just dont see how that could work. Wars are bad but there a part of life. Even God used wars for his purpose. They will never go away. I want to protect my country from this evil. this is my opinion. I know most of you dont agree, in fact I dont think a single person agrees with me. Im still in shock no one cares. [/B][/QUOTE] This is your opinion and I shall respect that.... however I will not agree with it... theonly reason we have war is because humans are dumb enough to decide hatred is needed.... I will stand for my views... as I'm sure you will stand for yours... I won't waste my time trying to tell you why and how and try to get you to think like me... as I'm sure you won't either... I'm not goin to change my way on life... that doesn't mean I don't care though....

No... I'm a passivist... I will NOT fight in any war.... I will support my country in other ways but I will NOT fight or participate in any war with another country whether I hate them or not. There are different deffinitions of American pride besides the brytal act of killing in a war... which I think is totally wrong.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Seifer [/i] [B]If where not so free go and live in china for a while and you will appreciate your country. Its sickening that no one cares for their country anymore. Sickening. [/B][/QUOTE] it's also sickening that people call me faggot cause I'm Bisexual and I was in a homosexual relationship.... This country isn't free... I base how I feel about this country from my experience... I've been made fun of and hated because of this countries people and I'm not gonna fight for those same people that hate me... It's a democracy.... My grandpa was in WWII, my uncle went to Saudi Arbia in the miliary for Desert Strom too... does that change my thoughts on America? no... I don't hate this country... I hate the stupid peope that occupy 90% of it... My CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT tells me I have freedom to chose... and I chose not to go into the military and I chose not to believe in fighting... Thats what this country stands for! Thats what I believe! And nothing will prevent me from continually thinking this way. Cause that is my American right... and I'm proud of it. Bush may not be a complete idiot but he is just as dumb as Clinton.... all politicians are dumb... they have been corrupted... This is how I feel.... you can feel your way, I'll feel mine, after all, this IS America... you are entitled to your own freedom of expression and of opinion.... and so am I..... just remember that.

Since we had this talk on AIM you know how I feel... god be with you all.....

I will show my respect as I have all day... I have done nothing but thinking of the horror they must feel... I show my respect by myself... to other by talking, not by symbolism of colors... however, thats not a bad idea... I have little American pride, but I do have some... however I think I lack red clothes.....

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Seifer [/i] [B] who ever does it should pay though. Those stupid palestine people shouldnt be laughing either. If a big disaster happend there we would probably send some aid to the and help. all they can do is laugh at us. [/B][/QUOTE] I commented on that in another topic... i suggest you read it.. I think it was the long one... it's on the last page And Americans are some of the most arrogant people in the world... there's no doubt about that.

Please... read the other 18,000 topics on this....

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Kottonknot [/i] [B]Well, I know everyone's feeling pretty shitty right now, but try not to take this offensive. I'm just trying to make everyone feel a bit better with some humour. See attachment. [/B][/QUOTE] That actually slightly cheered me up and gave me a slight laugh... then I accidently closed the window and got pissed again....

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Desert Shadow [/i] [B][b]Why do i get a sudden suspicion that TN has more than one board name.... Haha, no offense to you Mr. Tran, but i really can't see anyone doing this to [i]any[/i] person that they don't know on the 'net... haha[/b] :D [/B][/QUOTE] Eh, no... I only have ONE name on this hear board.... and that name is the one you are looking at to the left of this post.... I dunno who wrote that comment up there.... i'm just as shocked as others..

Will this cause WWIII? No Will the stupidity of humans and their stupid impulse for not thinking and wanting revenge cause WWIII? Yes.... lets hope people think this time, unlike Hitler didn't do in WWII and Germany didn't do in WWI

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Akito [/i] [B] Seifer, shut up. Do you know how long a soldier lasts when he's dropped into a hot zone? Well, back in veitnam, it was like 16 seconds. Now, if we went to war, the ppl who go to the front will probably have alittle more then that, maybe two weeks, but if it starts getting intense, it could be a hell of alot shorter then that. Some ppl who dodge the draft normally are ppl who deeply believe in not fighting, and I sorta do believe in not fighting too. Hell, u have no right to call those who are tryin to ditch the draft cowards! They are older, they have probably heard old war stories from their grandparents. I have, and my Grandfather came close to dieing when a shell went off by him in the Korean war. Hell, he was actually one of the troops that were supposed to attack Japan in WWII, before they decided to use the Atomic bomb. And u know what, countries may try to make war look like a honorable way to go, but it ain't! Maybe in past wars it was, but now, no. If u were going to be drafted into a war u know u might die in, then u would probably ditch the draft! And I would. But, right now, my mind is more on the thoughts of those who lost their loved ones in the Pentagon, and the Twin Towers. May god guide their souls to peace! [/B][/QUOTE] Amen... I'm NOT going to fight for a country that I think needs to stay out of other people's business. I'm not goint to fight for a country that are stupdi enough to vote an idiot into office. I'm not going to fight for a country that claims it's free and is not. I'm also not going to fight for a country cause I believe in passivism.... war is NEVER the answer and it's my right to choose in this country right? I choose not to fight, cause it's my belief and if it was a free country, the draft would be unconstitutional, but it's not a free country.... you go fight, you can go die... god bless you for fighting, but I will not... I live in a country of freedom and I'll exploit that freedom to all my beliefs whether you or anyone else likes it or not... plus I'm basically gay, they won't take me :) Anyway.... yes as I've said before... god be with all those people who have passed away in this tragedy

I see, reading this, that alot of you are upset at the fact that people over in Palestine are cheering over this.... the fact is you don't know, but we do the same thing all the time... When we bombed Iraq, we were essentially cheering for our forces as we bombed all of those innocent people in Iraq... we asked the Iraqy people to support America, then we turn our backs on them and kill some and kill more in bombings and hurt many many, yet we cheered.... so the one thing you are complaining about is the one thing we did to those people.... The US isn't very nice to Palistinians... we refuse to help them on many occations... it's only natural some of them should be **** happy this happened... you have to realize they have lived their livesin fear for the past years in their own war... and the world's self proclaimed "police" (The US) won't help them solve their conflict any further... not to mention tey hate Bush (hey, we have something in common)..... so I can understand why they are cheering, even if you don't agree.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ~*Anime Girl*~ [/i] [B]Like I said, are we sure 100% its Afganistan? [/B][/QUOTE] No we don't.. we dunno who it is.... so people need to stop blaming a country when you have no proof

We should react by not making all these topics.... I understand it's a shock, but reading the same thing over and over is annoying Sorry to be rude.. As Americans, we shouldn't do ANYTHING till we are beyond possitive who did this.... anything else is stupid and propostrous.... as far as I'm concerned.... till we know who, we have no one to blame but ourselves... if we had adequate security this wouldn't happen... if we had control this wouldn't have happened.... if we woul dhave listened when that guy warned us, this wouldn't have happened... and I hear that the FBI knew something was going to happen today, but do we hear anything? No.... perhaps we should stop being the arrogant fools that we are and listen when we know.... better to be safe than sorry..... sadly today, we are sorry.... God be with all the people involved in the horrific tragedy

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by zanza [/i] [B]?³ (?½? wtatsux) [/B][/QUOTE] Hahaha also came up as "Spiny Lobster" hehehe ... well whatever... Tatsu is the Chinese zodiac of Dragon.... dunno if it's the same as like fire breathing dragon... correct me if I'm wrong.... and can ya get on AIM? And Ryuu can also mean dragon... there are probably multiple words for it as there are always in Japanese

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Master O Beans [/i] [B]Me thinks its the Israelis...we've had there back for long enough, it's time they returned the favoure....so I think they bombed/attacked afganistan :) **me gives "air high-five" to israelis!** but this is just what **I** think, even the news hasn't said who they think it is yet. gotta go. class time. some1 fill me in when Iget home. see ya. God Bless. [/B][/QUOTE] Me thinks you are right... but this is not good.... Isreal has MANY MANY nuclear weapons I'm sure they are not afraid to use... however.... this is almost becoming a crusade..... i sure hope not.... what kind of idiot would even think their god wants you to kill.... I dunno if I'm losing my faith or gaining it back....

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Master O Beans [/i] [B]***NEW*** AFGANISTAN IS BEING ATTACKED! UNKNOWN BY WHO RIGHT NOW...BUT THERE IS ALL KINDS OF TRACER FIRE AND EXPLOSIONS...AND JETS FLYING OVER HEAD...CRAZY SH!T. [/B][/QUOTE] My god.... I'm just seeing this Ofcourse they will see this as an attack by us.... and this will snowball.... You know the one thing i haven't heard... I'm yet to hear from Castro in Cuba and anyone in China.... not that they would do this, but still.... no word I've heard from them

This is beyond depressing.... It couldn't come at a worse time in my life.... and just hearing all of you talk about war and people you know that died... it's making it worse.. I think it's making everyone more depressed... I really.... i dunno what more to say....

As far as I'm concerned, anyone still in that area is in crucial danger and it's now their fault if they get caught in another collapse... Building 7 is the brown building directly behind what formaerly was the World Trade Center Sounth and North buildings

I'm sorry for your loss.... I'm a bit confused though... it says you live in Green Bay.... sorry if that sounds rude, I'm just confused... nevermind, I read that he wason Vacation.... again, sorry for your loss However.... alot of people died... kids no longer have a mom, kids no longer have a dad, husbands don't have wives, wives don't have husbands, parents don't have kids, friends don't have friends.... too much to even consievably think about have happened.... For all those wanting war, think about it.... you don't like the fact your loved one died, so you are willing to let someone elses loved one dies to sooth your pain?.... how hypocritical.....

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Ice Dragon v2 [/i] [B]i know violence isnt the solution, but i cant stand to see more suffering i wanna take out my anger out on something [/B][/QUOTE] Yeah, it's natural human impulse... but simple rational thinking bring about this question: Who?.... who are you gonna take this out on? There is no one.... Yes, I'm very saddened to see that NYC's Twin Towes are now gone... and I'm glad this incident hasn't hurt anymore... juts everyone be thnkful for that! The casualitys in this incident are nothing compared to the one battle at Normandy beach during WWII.... there has been worse... just please deal with this in a mature, mannerly way.... revenge is an impulse, but THINKING is something you can do too... pray, cry, morn... it's the only thing you can do about it at this moment.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Ice Dragon v2 [/i] [B]this is too much I WANT WAR!!!!!!!!!!!! i dont anymore suffering i want to fight [/B][/QUOTE] That's contradicting... War IS nothing but more suffering....

May the gods be with you all and all the people that have been involved in the traggic traggic accident... No words can express the pain that is felt... No actions can change what has happened... No thing can forgive what has happened... You, yourself, must be strong, must pray to whatever god(s)/goddess(es) you have, believe everthng will be right again.... Life goes on.... Imagine how the people in many other countries feel when they get bombed... imagine how people felt during World War I, World War II, Vietnam, The Crusades, and everything that has happened in the past. You must realize there have been worse things in this world. But feel for those people whom you love... cry for them, pray for them... god be with you all... I can tell you one thing though.... JAPAN is HIGHLY doubted for this attack... they have no reason, no resourse, barely any reason to attack us... hell most of them like MANY americans... they aren't this ruthless as they were back in the Imperial times in Japan.... I purely believe this is an act of terrorism of a GROUP.... a GROUP that DOES NOT represent ANY country.... kinda like what Timothy McVeigh did in Okalahoma City.