CaNz

[quote name='Botar' date='18 June 2010 - 10:46 PM' timestamp='1276926368' post='695586'][color="#008000"] Oh, and *hugs Chibi*[/color] [/quote] hey! keep your grubby meat-hooks off my little sister! after all I've done for you? the betrayal!

i will drink to you guys tonight. sometimes i too feel like i am climbing a S**T rope

[quote name='Botar' date='18 June 2010 - 05:45 PM' timestamp='1276908356' post='695574'] [color="#008000"]Huh, I gots thrown under the proverbial bus by CaNz. I'll remember that. Hope you're boy troubles get solved Steph. *hug* [/color] [/quote] well.. if it makes you feel any better its been disclosed that i have a huge crush on Taperson. plus i practically got you that hug. [quote name='chibi-master' date='18 June 2010 - 08:08 PM' timestamp='1276916919' post='695580'] Can I have a hug? [/quote] of course i can give my little sis a hug. (lotta hugging going on here)

[quote name='Stephanie' date='18 June 2010 - 12:24 PM' timestamp='1276889062' post='695557'] What's wrong with you and Botar? My ex. Being a douche and making me stupid over him anyway. If I didn't know him better, and I didn't see the way he acts around me, I'd be perfectly willing to write it off as "He's just a jerk." But my gut tells me otherwise and I've learned to trust my instincts. It's just a lot of drama. [/quote] well... im sure not going to tell you whats wrong with me, half the fun is figuring it out. as for botar i just wanted to see his reaction... and i think it was just defensive enough for me to call him out. [size="5"]YOU GOTTA CRUUUUUSSH!!!!1 [size="1"] [size="2"]and sorry about the boy trouble... but we can be just as dramatic as any girl... relationships in general are work.[/size] [/size][/size]

[quote name='Stephanie' date='18 June 2010 - 11:22 AM' timestamp='1276885335' post='695550'] So, as of late, I have been considering dropping boys all together - and have been informed by numerous guys that this would be a dreadful loss to all male-kind. The idea still appeals. [/quote] go ahead... but you'll probably miss them when they are gone! just stay away from guys like me and Botar and you should be fine. but why the sudden lack of interest?

[quote name='Shinmaru' date='17 June 2010 - 08:58 PM' timestamp='1276833491' post='695504'] BRB SETTING CARS ON FIRE [/quote] i was just watching the news... you made me cry a smidge in laughter. my first task in cs5 is almost done... making a fake ID

[quote name='chibi-master' date='17 June 2010 - 01:59 PM' timestamp='1276808350' post='695481'] This sentence confuses me... I am now Microsoft Word 2003 certified, ladies and gentlemen! [/quote] speaking of software i just got photoshop CS5 i wouldn't say its worth the 500 dollar price tag, but with the discount i got, it cant be beat.

[quote name='Korey' date='17 June 2010 - 02:56 AM' timestamp='1276768567' post='695456'] [color="#000080"][size="2"] [font="Garamond"]I started collecting around IVth edition or so. I have pretty much all the packs that included the new Myr creature types, but I have almost the complete collection of Ice Age and 7th edition, including all the holo-foils that they put in them. Good thing about having the cards that I do is that I've made some pretty nifty low cost mono-theme decks. I figure, "can't block everything that I throw at you." [/font][/size][/color] [/quote] unless they have a low cost deck and get lucky... thats normally my plan. I like multi colors too much... but if you do get the right stuff they can be quite good.

[quote name='Raiha' date='16 June 2010 - 10:28 AM' timestamp='1276709331' post='695402'][font="Times New Roman"][size="3"][color="#9932cc"] Often for me it is the method by which the words are sung to a particular melody, so if they'd simply been screamed I wouldn't have felt anything, but usually the haunting, lilting sound slowed down while the beat continues faster in the background presses my ear the right way. [/color][/size][/font] [/quote] that kinda reminded me of another one... The Goo Goo Dolls: Black Balloon, [size="3"]"And there's no time left for losin'... When you stand they fall" [size="2"]that entire song feels like a buildup, and this part builds up to the last chorus. It feels like this is the top of a roller-coaster, and this is the spot at the top right before a plunge.[/size] [/size]

[quote name='chibi-master' date='16 June 2010 - 06:46 AM' timestamp='1276695999' post='695391'] But I agree with Ace. The argument could use its own thread instead of erecting walls of text in this one. [/quote] i guess walls of text does compromise the padded room... It would be pretty sweet to get it moved to a different topic... like eleanor vs CaNz! and then she could kick my ass at arguing more discreetly... though im sure everyone would view it anyways. [quote name='Botar' date='16 June 2010 - 08:05 AM' timestamp='1276700745' post='695393'] Aww, CaNz is a softy, take getting beat down like a man, then crawl back to your computer in a mushy pile semi-resembling your formal, non mushy self. Oh, and up top with de huge quote, to lazy ta mess with that. [/quote] I will keep that in mind. [quote name='Allamorph' date='16 June 2010 - 11:50 AM' timestamp='1276714210' post='695409'][font="Calibri"] Also I miss Dead Like Me. It's really too bad that Sci-Fi shows so much crap lately that all their good shows fizzle pathetically into obscurity.[/font] [/quote] two seasons was not nearly enough... I am kinda sad it was shown on Showtime instead of HBO. their specials automatically draw in viewers and this show could have used the boost. Now people are finally wising up and watching Showtime's stuff... especially after Dexter.

I just heard a great line from watching an old drama called dead like me. "[size="4"]there is a thin line between crazy people and the rest of us, we both have voices in our heads.[size="2"]" derive from it what you will, but i love the show even more now. [/size][/size]

do drinking songs count? i guess i can make the decision...[font="Impact"][size="7"] YES![/size][/font] but one per page people! ive heard of bar fights but bar music battles would just be chaos... and mixed tracks don't go down as smooth as mixed drinks.

[quote name='chibi-master' date='15 June 2010 - 11:01 AM' timestamp='1276624912' post='695343'] No, CaNz is. =P [/quote]i hope not... i was trying desperately to avoid being bashed. I make it way too easy... though i did like your opinion of me. I am very bad when it comes to young girls... i automatically think i need to defend them from all harm, even internet girls that probably have two belt colors higher than me. (and a better fighting style) plus i drink a lot. [quote name='eleanor' date='15 June 2010 - 06:34 PM' timestamp='1276652041' post='695365'] Personal experience is the best when you're doing something subjective, such as recounting life stories or learning from your mistakes, but there's error in using one girls soccer team as THE example of ALL girls soccer teams, or girls who participate in competitive sports. It's similar to racial profiling and prejudice-- you see several people part of a much larger group do something and so you assume the entire group does it too.[/quote] your right... but when compared to statistics you look at a small number and figure it is irrelevant, and it is hard to find statistics relating to the question. the most relevant is an over 50% drop out rate of girls soccer on entry to middle-school. (i think this is a correct statistic in terms of numbers, but not in the people. it does not say who sticks with it, when they started, or there reasons for staying or leaving... but it does say that less than half the girls who start soccer end up not being cut out for it.... or gave up. id say they were probablly the immature ones since im sure the number of soccer players gets smaller, and my experience is about six years, (middleschool to junior year of highschool) and thats were i witnessed most of the tragic events.i am sure that at higher levels there is much less toleration for BS like that so the crazies are probably long gone. but id rather talk about the past...when you first started playing this did anything close to what i have been saying happen? [quote name='eleanor' date='15 June 2010 - 06:34 PM' timestamp='1276652041' post='695365']bviously there isn't like cut lines that delineate "being the best" and "being competitive." They are intertwined, no doubt, but that doesn't mean wanting to be the best completely warps into an obsessive need to beat everyone else. Using your bowling example-- let's say my best score yet has been a 195. I think this score is indicative of my highest playing level yet (my "best"). My friend gets a 200, so I think to myself: I bet I could make myself better and get a 200, too. I could beat her. So yeah, it's not exactly an either/or situation. I think I can improve, so I think you can beat someone. If I beat someone, I've improved. I've surpassed my previous "best." IMO this is a healthy way of thinking. It's not vengeful or egoistic, it's a drive to become better in which competitiveness plays a major role. And I don't think the drive to win is bad, either. I mean who doesn't feel awesome after winning lol[/quote]i love to win too, but i am not competitive... this seems like a contradiction but i dont think so. when i play games i try my best to get the fun winning feeling, but i honestly dont mind losing. i either want to try again or i try to find a closer match... unless the game is so fun that losing is preferable to not playing like boardgames and cards. in team sports i was always good, but my teamates were always upset with me because i could be happy after we lost a match. i enjoyed the game, i wouldn't have played it if i didn't [quote name='eleanor' date='15 June 2010 - 06:34 PM' timestamp='1276652041' post='695365'] As to answer the "playing with friends" question... I would guess simply because if you're a far more advanced athlete, you wouldn't have as much fun playing with your friends because you're not exactly making yourself better or getting the satisfaction of winning. It'd be like me snowboarding with a beginning snowboarder, so I'd have to stop myself constantly to watch them get back up and try again. That's a really extreme example... but I think it gets my point across. Not to say it would be a terrible experience, I'd still have fun because I'd be with a friend and probably laughing/teaching her how to do it right. [/quote] you higher athlete types get all the oppertunities to play you want. but where can an adult go to get good at playing a game if they had not really played it before? you cant jump into a league at 18 without a ton of practice. if being competitive wasn't so important there would be a casual league. like join a team.. go have fun playing a game league. most athletes would think it would be pointless... i think it would be fun. [quote name='eleanor' date='15 June 2010 - 06:34 PM' timestamp='1276652041' post='695365'] Now I'm rambling, but when I brought up the snowboarding thing I thought of this. When I was learning how to snowboard, there was no "rival" or "other team" to beat. It was a completely solo experience for me. I cannot put into words how painful and long this process was. It was falling on my butt/knees probably more than 50 times a day, sometimes falling on my chest and getting the wind knocked out of me for a while, and my feet were screaming in pain, all in freezing weather. By the next morning I could barely move, but I forced myself to do the entire thing again. I did this for several days-- on the last day I FINALLY got the hang of it, was having a lot of fun actually getting down the mountain, and then a skier fell in front of me, my board caught his skis, I literally flipped up in the air and landed on my right side. The ski patrol had to come and put me in a sled because I couldn't walk without screaming in pain, and for the next week I lay comatose in bed watching Battlestar Galactica on my laptop with ice packs on my groin. However, I was happy as a clam because I forced myself through four days of hell and became an intermediate on a sport with one of the steepest learning curves. It came from an entirely personal desire to become better, not to beat anyone but just to be good at something. /end huge bragging session. [/quote] this is the one benefit of competition... your self. attempting to beat your own doubts or lack of skills with vigilance and determination. I was neever good with this though... i like self confidence more. I always think that if i put enough effort into anything i could be at least okay at it (its kinda why i signed up for otakuboards) but the two can both be used to reach a higher potential... and good job... it took me two lessons to figure out how to skii! two!

[quote name='Allamorph' date='14 June 2010 - 09:48 PM' timestamp='1276577284' post='695313'] [font="Calibri"]If I disliked you, I would have told you.[/font] [/quote] Nooooooo! id rather you keep your opinion of me to yourself! [size="1"][i](though as to stay true to the previous argument i fully support your right to have them)[/i][/size]

you have will of steel Tonks. I got to about 2,30 before i had to turn it off.

some songs speak to you in higher volumes than your mp3 player can reach. This topic is just a copy/paste discuss thread. post some lyrics then say wy you like them. [size="1"](please dont post media. this really is just gonna be picking the best lines of the song, not the whole thing. lyric posts should be a full chorus tops.[/size]) I kinda like one liners so i will share a few. Gin Blossoms: Alison Road. [size="3"]"So she fills up her sails... with my wasted breath"[/size] very creative way of saying everything you said was useless. i do love metaphors. Counting Crows: A long December. [size="3"]"The smell of hospitals in winter, and the feeling that it's all a lot of oysters but no pearls"[/size] Metaphors again, though this one just sad... so it fits Counting Crows perfectly. No Doubt: Don't Speak. [size="3"]"You and me..... I can see us dying ... are we?"[/size] not all great lyrics are super creative, this one is just a ridiculously powerful line. you can hear the pain in that question. im eager to read your the lyrics you like!

:angel::drunk::help::blah: all the old gif emoticons are not working for me...

seems to me everyone is judgmental regardless of if they publicly judge people or not. not everyone speaks out, but like you said Allamorph everyone has an opinion who is not dead or in a brain-dead state. the contradiction i would like to make though is that i would consider it "wrong/evil" to force those opinions on others when you cannot be sure of the view is correct. which means its okay to tell someone they are wrong if they are wrong, but not okay to tell someone that they should be more like you because its you think it is better. example would be i think its "wrong/evil" to judge people for drugs. so long as they only try to hamper themselves i shouldn't do more then tell them how i feel on the matter. there are certain personal choices that no one can tell you if its right or wrong but everyone has an opinion of them. these opinions are not bad, but are not necessarily enforceable in the same sense as correcting someone who has said 2+2=3. ....and to Stephanie, i liked your post because i thought i was the only one believes "your face" is a valid rebuttal. but i dont condone making fun of Allamorph [size="1"]he dislikes me enough already! [/size]

[quote name='gallowsCalibrator' date='14 June 2010 - 02:39 AM' timestamp='1276508385' post='695258'] [font="Comic Sans MS"]I... cannot for the life of me pin down exactly which of the major logical fallacies this falls under.[/font] [/quote] probably Argument from final Consequences/reversal of cause and effect. me saying i do this to be right does tend to skip the whole either i am right or not in the first place part... however i did say earlier that i use arguments to put my own thoughts into words, so that if i am right i can explain myself better. also in order to be right you sometimes have to prove statements wrong, thus not all of what i said was a fallacy.

i am sorry about anything bad i have ever said about you Stephanie. plus my love for arguing was an alternative motive Allamorph... i said i was continuing the argument because i wanted to be right. .......and can i type a single post without your dismissive comments? i make my mistakes but its not like i am the worst person to ever appear on a forum.

I love to argue... cant help it. but for me its not about telling others what to believe, its helping me put together my thoughts into words. I do want to be right, though... sooo... I think not only is personal experience better than statistical information, but it can be applied to others. If you need to look up statistics for proof then you dont know what your talking about. when you say [i]"when you truly are aiming to be your best, you also want to beat others. Because most people want to believe that their best is better than someone else's best"[/i] it no longer becomes playing to be the best. you just want to beat the competition. if everyone bowls at 200 all you gotta do is get 201 and you are the best right? to top it all off the negative aspect of losing is a plague. instead of thinking you gave it a good go, you are forced to believe you are inferior. even if it is true, it makes you either work harder or quit... but staying at the same level doesn't work for competitive sports unless your winning. This doesnt incorage self betterment. it just minimizes the people who can have fun. why is pro sports and college the only adult sporting events? why is it that kids stop playing baseball with there friends when they are older? most people are not the "real athletes" you speak of. how many of your teammates were over the years? however all of them probably liked playing sports weather they were better than everyone else or not has nothing to do with liking to play the game.

though i love the video, I wasnt talking about a temper tantrum crazy.... i meant letting your emotions go to your head and jumping on a girl who accidentally kid your but. I am also not condoning boys soccer/fútbol but id say out of experience there was less revenge driven injuries. I doubt this is true for all cases... but if its a number game we look at i will be correct. I am certainly not saying anyone here is a monster(yet...) but thats only because everyone here other than me tends to show a level of maturity not found in your run of the mill jocks. also I never understood why being competitive was an important trait to learn... why do you have to be better than everyone else? why cant you just learn to be the best you can be? competitive sports coaches always say do your best but they really dont care so long as what you do is better than what they do. i understand hat playing against an opponent was a means of testing your own skill, but it seems to me that the concept of winning trumped the concept of being good.