[quote name='CaNz' date='29 July 2010 - 06:18 PM' timestamp='1280452721' post='698244']
but it certainly is targeting Hispanic illegal immigrants... but that is because Arizona sure doesn't have to worry about the Scottish walking over.
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[quote name='Allamorph' date='29 July 2010 - 09:43 PM' timestamp='1280465013' post='698269'][font="Calibri"]
Barring highly specific circumstances, [i]is there any other ethnic group that crosses the US's southern border?
[/i]The issue of racism in the law is unfair from any angle because there isn't another race to grant privilege to or discriminate against. [/font]
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was i reading this right or did Allamorph and i have a similar sounding point... other than borderlands i didn't think we saw eye to eye on anything.
[quote name='James' date='29 July 2010 - 08:19 PM' timestamp='1280459956' post='698259']
[font="Palatino Linotype"]I personally wouldn't compare the illegal immigrant situation to the prison population. I actually think the two are very different. The illegal immigrant population of America will always be made up of a large majority of people who have come from south of the border - that's just a simple statistical point. I don't think that the breakdown of the prison population can be compared on that basis, though.[/font]
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i would say a leading factor of crime would be substandered living conditions and poverty level monitary incomes. this has nothing to do with race, but it happens African Americans have the highest number of people living in these circumstances... which is why i think that would be the reason for the lage black inmate count.
this sure hasn't stopped racist stereotypes of criminal natures in people of African decent, nor has it swayed the popular opinion that police pick on African Americans. if another race took the African Americans place in the chopping block, i am sure jails would switch up as well, same as if anotherr ethnicity was living in Mexico, a country with severe economic hardships, and was able to get past the looly guarded border into America. they would.
i am saying neither one is a race issue, they both are simply statistical happenings.
[quote name='James' date='29 July 2010 - 08:19 PM' timestamp='1280459956' post='698259'][font="Palatino Linotype"]
Having said that - and without getting into a specific debate about these laws - even as a citizen I'd feel more than a bit uncomfortable if a police officer was always asking me to "show my papers". Even if I have nothing to hide, there's something a little sinister about the idea. Maybe that's just me, though. *shrug*[/font]
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both you and Hc really shouldn't have a problem verifying your citizenship if you are a citizen. what would it matter? its just one more thing they ask for... its already allowed for them to ask for ID, why not ID and proof of citizenship? say... we make a second id card for it... you take your SSN to a DMV... they run it through... it checks out and they give you a card that says legal in big bold letters, has a picture of you on it and has a bar-code that links to your name in the DMV database. would that be hard to do? would your privacy really be infringed?