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[QUOTE=James][color=#332E1D][font=franklin gothic medium]The battery is an issue for people who aren't necessarily likely to recharge frequently. Moreover, we're talking about portable systems here. For sheer portability sake, PSP's battery life is only adequate - and that's only if you count games that can actually achieve seven hours. Plenty can't. I doubt it would be an issue for most people, but if we're going to make battery power comparisons, then obviously it's an issue.[/color][/font][/quote] I won't try to dismiss it as an issue entirely; that would just be damage control. But, I only recharge my battery at night while I'm asleep--not even every night. The battery seems to charge fully in an hour or two. Of course it's not as convinient as the GameBoy Advance battery, which I could go a week without charging, but to be fair, if someone is playing their PSP or GameBoy for seven hours on a daily basis, they're probably doing it in their home and not in a portable sense in the first place. So, why not just plug either in while playing? When I've actually played my PSP on the go it's never died. So, although there are factors that make it somewhat less portable than a GBA, I don't feel that the battery is one of the more pressing issues. Especially since, as I mentioned, larger capacity batteries are already being released. This will especially be the case once developers begin to utilize the PSP's full clock speed and need more battery power. Right now the battery is only drained significantly when watching UMD movies (which I've easily found new for $12). I'm not really interested in those but people who are definitely have something to complain about. [quote]Getting a GBA SP at this point would be pointless for one key reason: GameBoy Micro. Other than the concept of shielding the screen, GBM generally trounces GBA SP as a portable product. And it has a higher quality screen, to boot.[/quote] What? Later on in your post you say: [quote]And now that I do actually own a DS, I really have no incentive to buy a GBM[/quote] I think it's really obvious that the the GameBoy Micro is essentially a niche device mainly intended for the "hip" crowd. Why would I want a GameBoy Micro over the DS right now? It's probably going to be close to $100, and but like the DS it can't play original GameBoy games. Sure, the screen is of a higher quality but it's also smaller. I think I would prefer a system that will have a large variety of new games in a year and can play GBA games to boot. I think the price, lack of GBC compatibility and smaller screen would probably lead me to prefer a regular GBA for that matter. [quote]As I said earlier, I think the biggest issue is price. If PSP were much cheaper, the only real factor would be whether or not people like Nintendo's own games enough (or the third party stuff) to buy GBA.[/quote] Yeah, price is definitely a problem. Especially outside of Japan and America. In Europe and Australia the PSP's price looks like it's going to be simply outrageous. [quote name='ThatOneOddDude']Also, is emulation not ilegal? Even if you have the game, its still illegal to emulate it.[/quote] I don't see a problem with it on the PSP personally. Most of the games I have I either own or owned at some point. My money went to pay the developers for their hard work, at some point. And, I can't play most of my older games, like Punchout anymore because my Nintendo doesn't exactly function properly. Other systems, like the Wonderswan were never released here and the NeoGeo Pocket Color isn't exactly easy to find. I don't support piracy, and I refuse to download an ISO launcher that would allow me to play free PSP games, but I see no problem playing classic Genesis, Nintendo, Super Nintendo, and GameBoy Color games. Since I lost my GameBoy Advance SP I wouldn't mind downloading roms of the games that are currently sitting on my shelf collecting dust either. Even outside of emulation, the PSP hacker community has developed some really awesome, original homebrew. Recently a new program called "PSPKick" was just released, which is essentially a drum beat maker that allows you to save the beats you create in .wav format. Really neat stuff.

[QUOTE=ThatOneOddDude]tch. This is no contest. I could buy a CD player, a DVD player, a GBASP, and up to 5 games for the price of 1 PSP. The GBASP is my favorite gaming console ever. It has a huge selection of games, mostly RPG and Tactics which are my favorites. The graphics aren't "amazing," But they're still damn good at doing what they need to. Take a look at Wipeout Pure for the PSP. Is that game any better than Racing Gears Advanced or F-Zero in terms of gameplay? Sure the graphics are great, but if the game sucks, who cares? So far I have heard of 1 good PSP game, and thats Lumines. Being someone who doesn't even like Tetris, I dought that I would ever pick it up. The main problem I have with the PSP is the battery life! Why am I playing a game that will cut off after 6 hours? My SP's batteries tend to last between 15-16 hours, and considering the fact that I often play between 5-7 hours at a time, the PSP would be no good. Personally, I think that better graphics often mean more problems.[/QUOTE] First of all, I'm not some kind of PSP crusader who's here to rush to its defense. I like the Gameboy Advance SP as much as anyone. But, let's call a spade a spade and a deuce a deuce here. Wipeout Pure has terrific gameplay that is arguably better than either of the games you've mentioned. It doesn't rely on pseudo three-dimensional mode 7 effects; the game play is extremely responsive, fast, and smooth. You're immediately assuming that just because the PSP is capable of amazing graphics, that its games are incapable of achieving equally good gameplay. I have about five or six PSP games that I like--so Lumines sure isn't the only quality game for the system. If you can't appreciate Ridge Racer, Darkstalkers, Tony Hawk's Underground 2, and above all else, Hot Shots Golf: Open Tee on the go, then fine. Whatever. lol I've also had no problem with the battery--but then again, I don't enjoy seven hour sessions--so who knows. But, larger capacity batteries are being released (one just was actually). So, I don't see what all the fuss is about in that department. The battery life is already reasonable and it's improving. My main argument against getting a GBA SP wouldn't even be the PSP though. Why on earth wouldn't someone just buy a DS instead? The GBA is dying. All of its big franchises are moving over to the DS. Why would anyone want to buy a GBA at this point if they have enough money to even consider buying a PSP instead? Especially considering that GBA games look better on the DS.

[quote name='Morpheus']Definately Gameboy Advance SP. Comparing their games is very unfair. GBA has been out for 4 years, and with compatable games all the way back to 1989, PSP's library is dwarfed in every aspect.[/quote] You have no idea about the PSP emulation scene right now, do you?

[QUOTE=demonchild781][FONT=Arial Narrow]And just a comment to your last post on this thread, and I hope you don't find me rude by saying this, but some of the best poems written are cluttered and choppy. I think they represent the chaos that one feels when emotions have become unbarable. Now I say this as a writer myself. Ok...I think I'm going to shut up now :animeswea. Hope to see more of your poetry up. DC[/FONT][/QUOTE] Thanks. :) To clarify my point, it's possible to write a quality poem with an offbeat structure--if that's what one's intentions are. However, I'm a firm believer that even if the chaotic nature of their poem is supposed to be representative of one's emotions, it should still be functional. When writing an irregular poem, a writer shouldn't randomly throw together a jumbled mess of God-knows-what. It should be supported by a clear intention. A large degree of craftsmenship has to be employed to make such a poem work. I wasn't speaking out against this approach. It was actually a response to the vague idea of "mind-blowing" poetry that was brought up. Or the idea that people didn't have something to say because my poem isn't "complicated" enough. Almost anyone should be able ot reply to this poem with a statement along the lines of "I know exactly what you mean by this line because ____ happened to me and influenced my life in this way." Something doesn't have to be complicated on a techincal level to be impressive. I'm just as comfortable in simplicity and find it equally impressive. If I purposely tried to make every single poem complex just for the sake of flaunting what I can do, the writing wouldn't sound natural--and it would probably be confusing. That's what I'm trying to say.

[quote name='Mitch']I really don't have much to say about the poem, I guess many people don't.[/quote] When do they? It's not about Naruto, Sailor Moon, DragonBall or any anime. What a shock. But, that's not to say that you couldn't find anything to say even if you tried in the slightest. I myself wrote five or six paragraphs on it. [quote]Its meaning is clear; and I like the repetitive, almost song-like quality of it, and the rhyming is well-executed as well. [/quote] Thanks. [quote]I didn't find this poem to be particularily amazing or anything, but that's obviously not its purpose. It wasn't mindblowing but it was good.[/QUOTE] I really don't know what constitutes a mind-blowing poem. I wouldn't say that any poem is mind-blowing. A poem's effectiveness is usually due in part to whether or not the general reader is able to identify with it. As is the case with most of my other poems, almost anyone can identify with what's being said throughout. They can draw from its simple, yet powerful meaning and remember times where the lines relate directly to their lives. I just think that most people typically don't give a lot of complex thought to what's being said so they undercut their ability to pull anything worthwhile from what they're reading. That is, unless the subject at hand is simple and superficial. Others write poems with the intention of being impressive, or "mind-blowing", as you put it, and confuse what they're trying to say until what they're left with is an incomprehensible mess. And then people [i]can't[/i] comment. So, it's tough to find a decent middle ground. Obviously, I've found it in writing poems dealing with double meanings and sex, but I tire of that after a while and become content receiving fewer replies instead of typecasting myself in exchange for more attention.

Well, yeah, you're accurate. The meaning of the poem is fairly straightforward. People often dwell on the past; they often wish they could change it. They wonder how their lives would be different if they could alter decisions they've made. Time moves along at such a brisk pace that people sometimes take "Yesterday" for granted, which is the meaning of the first stanza. Sometimes we don't consider how fortunate we are to be around yet another day because we don't expect today to be our last. The second stanza discusses the fragile nature of the past. Just think about how many "Yesterdays" simply disappear for you. If I ask you where you were on a series of obscure dates or what you did, how likely are you to remember them all? Despite society's emphasis on schedules and being on time, I don't think time is too precious to us in a philisophical sense. On the other hand, we often spin reality based on our own perceptions of fading memories. Sometimes we look back on our memories and make them either better or worse than they really were. Some people even torture themselves by scrutinizing "Yesterday" too heavily. My inspiration for the third stanza is quite simple. Life moves people along in such a way that they lose contact with friends. For example, think about graduating from school and losing contact with friends whose paths are going to be quite different from your own. It's inevitable to at least lose some friendships over time. But, their shadows still remain in your memories. They'll always be keeping you company in the past. You've stated the meaning of my last stanza well: [quote]Things I'd done and mistakes I'd made, and regretful as I might be, they've made me who I am and without them, yesterday would mean nothing, cause there'd be no tomorrow.[/quote] Yes, you just wouldn't exist as you are now if not for "Yesterday." Thanks for reading and replying to my poem. I didn't think anyone would, which was upsetting. I'm happy now.

Oh Yesterday, You?re a blessing now spent. Time no longer up for borrow. Gone before I knew where you went! Today you make possible tomorrow. Oh Yesterday, Like light, your reflection easily bent. Now, a memory fresh in my mind Slowly withering to my repent. You grow smaller as you?re left behind. Oh yesterday, Sometimes a source of torment. You elope with beloved people and places How long can their memories lie dormant When you?ve left behind their traces? Oh yesterday, I should take back things I?d never meant! Sometimes I wish you up for review. But a change could rupture my best moment. Now you?re a dream too good to be true. Oh yesterday.

You should all be familiar with my opinion by now. Metal Gear Solid 3 is [B]the[/B] game of this generation of consoles. The blend of perfect gameplay and storytelling is complimented by the best characterization I've ever seen in a game (at least as far as the main characters are concerned). The humor--the drama, I love it all. The subtle way in which you see a man who would do anything for his country become affected in such a way that he becomes the world's most dangerous terrorist is incredible. So, suffice to say, I'm even going to double dip when Metal Gear Solid 3 :Subsistence is released. Eventually, I'd love to write a paper on the game, not for school but just because I think it'd be an interesting thing to do and would probably help me gain even further appreciation of it. If the Playstation 3 is going to be as expensive as I'm predicting, I won't be in a huge hurry to pick one up. But, when Metal Gear Solid 4 is on the horizon, you can bet that I'll take the hit. Especially since the concept art hints that they're finally bringing back Big Boss. They've hinted at his remains in the first two Metal Gear Solids and Metal Gear Solid 3 focused on him entirely, so including him in a greater capacity seems like the natural thing to do. I'm excited.

[QUOTE=ThatOneOddDude]I never thought about the fact that the PS3s graphics wouldn't be that good right away. I feel dumb. Anyway, the main thing that excites me about the new, awesome graphics is the fact that, as James said, all the little developers will be done for. This is good because not only will there be less games to have to keep up with, but they will all be good. I hate the fact that I can't afford all the games I want because theres too darn many of them. And Cow Tipper, I don't think the 360 is going to do all that well. The graphics aren't that much better, and the Xbox was the wprst of this generations consols, in the fact that it lost Microsoft a lot of money and sold the least of the three. A new Halo game isn't worth spending 400 bucks on a game console[/QUOTE] I know James already addressed your flawed thinking regarding small developers, but how exactly is it a bad thing that there are more games available than you can afford? Isn't it better to have a broad selection than a limited one you're not even interested in to begin with? I would rather go to a buffet with more food than I can eat than one with a smaller selection of bland foods. Also, I think there's a significant chance that some titles' visuals will be close to or equal to Killzone 2 quality right out of the gate. The PS3 and Xbox 360 are able to run the amazing-looking Unreal 3 engine rather effortlessly; Gears of War seems to be a quality demonstration of what can result from that. I don't think it's too far off. Madden is another example of this point considering it's supposedly [I]superior[/I] to the concept footage that's been aired. I don't see how the Xbox was the worst console this generation either. Of course Microsoft is going to lose money on it; its purpose was to establish a fan base and a stable place within the market--and it did just that (which is no easy task). The Xbox even outsold the PS2 last Christmas. With the success of the Xbox Live network this generation and some terrific exclusives, I'd say that Microsoft hasn't given people a lot to complain about. I wish people would just stop pointing to Halo 2 as if they really need it to sell systems at this point.

All right, I've finally gotten around to checking this thread again. I've made a revision based on Alex's suggestion. How is it now? Rubber ducky, I loved you well. Your memory makes my heart swell. A golden phoenix of the bath, Your squeaky chirping sparked my laugh. I adored you long after I grew stubble. You tickled my soul unlike any bubble. Gracefully on the water's surface you'd float, Your buoyancy far more enduring than soap. But then one day I found you belly up--deflated! Our happy baths in one fell swoop annihilated! The precious sanctum that is my tub--violated! Alas, you no longer bob to and fro. From your beak water streams no longer flow. Yet, I must go on, go on free of dirt, I must keep moving and endure the hurt! [B]Belive you have matured into a swan. Trust you've floated on to better seas anon.[/B] I hope you've found the magical bath you so deserve, While keeping my humble memory on reserve.

[quote name='Generic NPC #3']PCs will always catch up and surpass, just as they have in every generation.[/quote] Although that's going to be increasingly difficult to do starting next generation. [B]If[/B] console games manage to reach the quality apparent in the Killzone video, then graphics will be a non-issue. Even when you look at games like Gears of War, you have to ask yourself "How much better do games have to look?" Still, what you're saying is completely true. PC gaming isn't in any danger.

[QUOTE=RiflesAtRecess]My opinion on the gaming war... PSP will probably dominate the DS, one reason being that the DS has no good games, it has some ok ones, but nothing that ever made me even consider buying a DS. The DS is just a gimmick to me, two screens and a stylus, and it's only games are over-hyped tech demos.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry but I had to stop reading your post right there. DS mopped the floor with PSP at E3. It was voted the best platform of E3, while PSP's showing was quite underwhelming. Go back and look at the list of releases for the DS this year, particularly in the month of November. You'll be surprised. That's not to say that the PSP won't see some great games as well--Burnout Legends, Virtua Tennis, Daxter, Persuit Force, and Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories are sure to be interesting. But, c'mon. Anyway, this is going to be a great year for the current generation consoles. The PS2 is quite possibly seeing its best year, the GameCube fans had Resident Evil 4 and still get to look forward to the new Zelda in November. The Xbox has seen a good year too, although the end of the year will be weak since Microsoft is effectively killing the system.

[QUOTE=x kakashi x][COLOR=Olive][SIZE=1]Personally, I would fight for something I didn't believe in. Things such as war, although deadly, are waged for an overall greater good. People, fight for peace, as hypocritical as that sounds. And I fight to protect the people and country I love. Although I hate politics, and basically anything surrounding them, I've come to love the place I live. My country is beautiful, and I would fight to keep it that way. As far as off war topics, I would probably do the same. I've always been one to wear my heart and my sleeve, excluding the risks of doing so. If someone I loved was doing something I didn't agree with, smoking for example, I would still be there for them, and support them the best I could. Its easy to support things you believe in, but sometimes its best to swallow your pride and do whats right, rather then what you want.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/QUOTE] It sounds like the dominant ideology of the aristocrats has really been embedded into your way of thinking. Do you really think that war, in general, is waged for the overall greater good? Or is it to serve those in power? If you're going acknowledge the justification of war under certain circumstances, it's important to be both intelligent and aware so that you can realize when a war really isn't serving the greater good (which is most often the case). Look back at history and think about the casualties; if war was for the greater good, then would millions of lower and middle class people have had to die because of it? You just seem like an easy person to control when appealed at with the right rhetoric based on what I've read here. And that--the ability to be controlled through such means--is more dangerous to the greater good than anything. Anyway, it's not always as simple as believing in war's agenda. Life isn't so simplistic and two-dimensional. As others have explained, other factors are often involved. The military is a job; many join for a living when they don't have better opportunities and many more join so that they can pay for higher education. Others just want to get away from home for whatever reason or are pressured by their parents to join. I'm sure that many don't plan on dying either. Many young people tend to view themselves as invincible and take their own mortality for granted.

My reaction to this idea is always simplistic; I just don't understand why people need a seperate forum for every little thing. Otaku Lounge is a social forum; I don't understand why people would need an entirely seperate area for talking about their problems. It would just spread the site thin. That's my opinion anyway. The columnist idea is interesting but again--why? The idea of a social forum is that [I]everyone[/I] should be able to participate and give advice. Almost every member here is equally as qualified as the next. Why over-complicate things? Again, just my opinion.

Hey, a bit of feedback is better than none. As usual, I appreciate your posts. It should be noted that I never had a rubber ducky either. I probably wrote this poem partly out of my appreciation for Tennyson's "In Memoriam A..H.H." (although I borrowed nothing from the poem other than the name), and partly out of my subconscious regret for never owning a ducky of my own. Your comments are super flattering and they make me both proud and grateful. So thanks. To know that at least a few of you enjoy my poems specifically makes it worth writing them. Heck, even if only one of you did, it'd validate it. :animesmil Mitchy I'm grateful for your honest response as well. I suppose it is a valid criticism that I rhyme my poetry too much, but lately I've been in a sort of whimisical, song-like fit with my poetry. Writing lyrical children's poems is really relaxing and enjoyable for me. I'll take your gripe into consideration for sure though and try to deliver in that area next time.

Edit: I've accidentally fortgotten to include a thread rating. I tried to stop the page before the thread could be posted but it was too late. If someone could add an "E" rating it would be great. Thanks. Rubber ducky, I loved you well. Your memory makes my heart swell. A golden phoenix of the bath, Your squeaky chirping sparked my laugh. I adored you long after I grew stubble. You tickled my soul unlike any bubble. Gracefully on the water's surface you'd float, Your buoyancy far more enduring than soap. But then one day I found you belly up--deflated! Our happy baths in one fell swoop annihilated! The precious sanctum that is my tub--violated! Alas, you no longer bob to and fro. From your beak water streams no longer flow. Yet, I must go on, go on free of dirt, I must keep moving and endure the hurt! I must accept that you have matured into a swan. I always knew you'd float onto better seas anon. I hope you've found the magical bath you so deserve, While keeping my humble memory on reserve. [color=red][size=1]Thusly done, dear! ^.~ -- Asphy[/size][/color]

Of course, the irony in all this is that new members are being spun in a negative light. They're being portrayed here as if they're detrimental to the condition of the forums when, in reality, new members are what keep the site lively and functional. If the post quality is lacking in RPGs, then you can't just blame the new membership. I've seen wonderful new members that completely put some mediocre veteran ones to shame. In any case, the message here is that the success of a forum lies in team effort. New members keep forums going and generate fresh activity while older members are supposed to be there to set a standard. A novel concept, huh? So, do that. It's not as if you don't have the means to create your own RPG where you control the quality through sign-ups.

I'm excited that the revolutionary aspect hasn't been revealed yet then; the fact that everyone has access to an entire history of Nintendo classics seems awesome enough to me. Also, the size of the console itself is even revolutionary. I prefer its simple, compact design over the PS3 and Xbox 360. rBut, if there's more--then that definitely peaks my interest even more. I assumed that the controller wouldn't be such a big deal other than the gyro technology. So, that should be interesting as well. As for selling out by going online--what a silly criticism. I know James already argued against it but I think that taking the leap into online gaming was a necessity for Nintendo. They've taken heavy criticism for not giving gamers access to online multiplayer on the GameCube. So, if they decided to forsake such a fundamental part of modern gaming for a system they're calling the Revolution (at least for now)--then that'd be ironic to say the least.

The screen has indeed been reduced in size quite a bit. I've heard it being compared to a cell phone screen.

I figured I should post up the new E3 trailer. It's simply awesome. I'm especially excited that they're doing fully orchestrated music. It almost makes up for the lack of voice acting. [url]http://media.nintendo.com/zelda/universe/_img/game/legendzelda/e3_zelda_tp_480.mov[/url]

Well, the speculation is over; Nintendo has finally unveiled its next generation system in line with Microsoft's and Sony's announcements. Here are some images: [url]http://www.1up.com/media?id=1897379&type=lg[/url] [url]http://www.1up.com/media?id=1897381&type=lg[/url] [url]http://www.1up.com/media?id=1897375&type=lg[/url] Here are its list of features: [list]The cool look: The new console boasts high-quality materials and a smart, compact design, approximately the size of three standard DVD cases stacked together. A variety of prototype colors are being showcased during E3. It will come with a silver stand that makes the system a welcome, artistic component of any multimedia setup, whether it's displayed vertically or horizontally. [/list] [list]Backward compatibility: The new console plays all games from the current Nintendo GameCube generation. But there's more ... [/list] [list]The secret weapon: The console also will have downloadable access to 20 years of fan-favorite titles originally released for Nintendo 64, the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES) and even the Nintendo Entertainment System (NES).[/list] [list]Easy expansion: A bay for an SD memory card will let players expand the internal flash memory.[/list] [list]Two disc formats, one slot: Instead of a tray, a single, innovative, self-loading media bay will play both 12-centimeter optical discs used for the new system as well as Nintendo GameCube discs. Owners will have the option of equipping a small, self-contained attachment to play movies and other DVD content. [/list] [list]The specs: The system boasts 512 megabytes of internal flash memory, wireless controllers, two USB 2.0 ports and built-in Wi-Fi access. A worldwide network of Nintendo players can gather to compete in a comfortable, inviting environment. Revolution's technological heart, a processing chip developed with IBM and code-named "Broadway," and a graphics chip set from ATI code-named "Hollywood," will deliver game experiences not previously possible. [/list] [list]The stars: Introduction of a number of new franchise properties will add to the world's richest stable of stars, including Mario, Zelda, Super Smash Bros., Donkey Kong and Metroid.[/list] [list]Wireless freedom: A number of Wi-Fi-enabled launch titles are in development that will employ Nintendo's newly announced wireless gaming service, Nintendo(R) Wi-Fi Connection. A worldwide network of Nintendo players can gather to compete in a comfortable, inviting environment. [/list] [list]Freedom of design: A dynamic development architecture equally accommodates both big-budget, high-profile game "masterpieces" as well as indie games conceived by individual developers equipped with only a big idea.[/list] So, according to the information released, the Revolution is supposed to fit anywhere and bring together new games and old while giving people worldwide access through wireless Wi-Fi connections. So, the revoultionary aspect is that it opens the world of video games to everyone.

I don't know why so many people are being critical of the controller; it [I]looks[/I] extremely comfortable to me. That aside, I'm a lot more impressed with this than I am with Xbox 360. The games look much better and run smoothly (unlike the 15 fps Gears of War demo), and the system's design looks sexier. Considering its launch takes place only four to six months after the Xbox 360's and Grand Theft Auto is slated to be a launch title for the system--I'd say that it's likely that Sony wins again.

So far, most of the games, except for Gears of War look like complete crap. I was especially disappointed by Perfect Dark Zero and Dead or Alive 4. DOA looks only marginally better than current generation software whereas Perfect Dark looks [I]worse[/I]. Games like Full Auto also look strikingly similar to current generation games. I'd say it looked a lot like Burnout 3, only with slightly better destruction effects. It's unfortunate that I've seen little that surpasses this generation of consoles in any way whatsoever.

[CENTER][IMG]http://img223.echo.cx/img223/4246/whatisanidiot7cx.jpg[/IMG][/CENTER] Before this is closed (as I'm guessing it might be considering the uber lameness of these threads) let's get a few things straight. [quote]For starters the DS has longer battery life then the PSP but the PSP has more[better] launching titles.[/quote] I agree that the PSP's launch titles were better--but it's a very insignificant (and highly subjective point). It's more important to focus on the quality and style of games that these two systems will offer in the future instead of looking at the launch line-ups (which are rarely indicative of what a system is truly capable of down the road anyway). I don't know if either system will offer the [i]better[/i] selection. Remember these handhelds are each trying to achieve entirely seperate things and appeal to different audiences altogether. In the end, it all comes down to personal taste. [quote]I dont wanna play no mario.[/quote] That's a double negative. You're saying that you [I]do[/I] want to play Mario. [quote]Also to my understanding, PSP dosnt have Online play, but the DS(using bluetooth technoligy) can play online or use Pictochat from 100 feet away from you.[/quote] :rolleyes: The PSP does have online play. [quote]But psp price may be at 150 at launch. So Ds has convineince with its system, but Psp has what matters most, good games.I am voting for the Psp because 1. The PSP first of all, kills the Nintendo DS with graphics. The DS in graphics can be compared to about between N64 and Dreamcast graphics, which is good. However, the PSP is between PSX and PS2 type graphics, so who do you think wins this battle?[/quote] I almost have no idea what you're saying. I'll try my best to translate: "The DS has a more attractive price but the PSP has better games because they look better. Ug." That's basically it. In the end, when the PSP's full potential is realized and a better batter is released to sustain it, there's no doubt that we'll see high-end PS2 visuals running on it. But, does that mean that the games are [I]better[/I] per se? Only if you judge it on that criteria alone--and you'd be making a very egregious mistake by doing so. Again, this is all a matter of personal preference. Both systems are offering an entirely different brand of gameplay. If you prefer what the PSP is going for--then that's fine. But, at least have the right reasons. Ack, I don't even feel like going on--and I could indeed (third party memory sticks 3/4 cheaper? Bah. Get your facts straight, man.

I would just like to say that this thread is useless without pics.