Nerdsy

[quote name='indifference][COLOR=DarkRed']DeathKnight left out the tier of posters like him who make zanny lists poking fun at everything just to hide how lovable he/they truly are. :p [/COLOR][/quote] [color=deeppink]If he really wants to fool people like that, he should reconsider wearing plush turtles for hats. Everytime I see him being all judgemental, I look at that picture and think "Aw, that's adorable!" It puts everything into perspective.[/color]

[QUOTE=DeathKnight][color=crimson] Nerdsy "here's my okay opinion"[/color][/QUOTE] [color=deeppink]Oh, I rarely argue my actual opinion. There's no fun in that. ; )[/color]

[quote name='Raiyuu']That one's actually true, heh.[/quote] [color=deeppink]Well, there's no proof to it, and most scholars agree that it's a load of bunk. [URL=http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pardos/PopeJoan3.html]Source 1[/URL], [URL=http://www.usnews.com/usnews/doubleissue/mysteries/pope.htm]source 2[/URL] You're way too quick to believe rumors. ; )[/color]

[color=deeppink]I was told recently by my sociology teacher that divorce is actually [i]not[/i] as detrimental as when two parents who hate each other stay together. However, this is to be taken with a grain of salt, because she's the type who believes just about anything ("Jamie Lee Curtis is a hermaphrodite, it's why she adopted." "There was a female pope, that's why there are chairs with holes in them at the Vatican!" etc). All I can say is my parents got divorced, and I like to think I turned out reasonably well adjusted. Of course, this happened when I was all of 6 months old, so that should be taken into account.[/color]

[QUOTE=DeathKnight][color=crimson]The Internet allows a level of anonymity that is difficult to attain IRL simply from how communication over distances works. The statement "X can happen IRL too" is not very insightful. If it is meant to be insightful it is, unfortunately, falling far short as comparisons to how IRL relationships work is difficult at best from the nature of continual long-distance communications. If you don't know me, online now you could discern from his post I might be a bit confrontational or you might disagree or agree with me. You might make judgments on my screen name or how my prose sounds in your head as you read it. These are just a trickle of things you might do as a first impression online. Comparing this to a first meeting IRL, you walk up to me in the middle of a conversation with another person and I'm saying this. How I'm dressed, my body movements, the tone of my voice, how attractive or ugly I am and dozens of other presumptions that cannot be made over the Internet without the aid of pictures or direct questioning. By default long distance communications are much more anonymous. IRL I would have to put much effort into appearing as something I am not- a woman, a smarter person, a dumber person, whatever guise is applicable to this scenario. It is true there are liars no matter how you communicate with people but long-distance communication is innately helpful to lies when compared to being in person. So yes, being sibling forms of communication makes comparisons between long distance and IRL numerous but there are still key differences. "X can happen IRL" is not a very good argument to make even if the person you are arguing against is, admittedly, not very good at it. Though talking about plastic surgery and talking about the horrible people lurking just around the corner seems rather desperate and silly considering how poor oscar is "debating". Funnily enough maybe a few of you need to get laid. ;)[/color][/QUOTE] [color=deeppink]Not one of use are saying that there are no differences, or that personal relationships aren't better,though; merely, that online relationships [i]aren't[/i] pathetic. We don't really need to go over the two point by point in order to defend one of them. Although we are talking about kids, here; how many of them are great judges of character? : P As far as pointing out that it can happen in real life too... if he's going to swear off an entire medium because of what is possible, he should know that that it's still possible with his cosen medium. AND MY ABILITY TO GET LAID IS NOT RELEVANT TO THIS CONVERSATION! :cussing: [/COLOR]

[quote name='oscarX']I am not talking about finaly meeting them Im talking like just having a bf or gf just to have one because you cant get one[/quote] [color=deeppink]My, that seems contradictory, doesn't it? Hard to have one when you can't get one. And let's put it this way; the "just because I want one" relationships have the same chance to develop into a serious relationship where the two meet. Not to mention that at 15 and below, if anyone thinks that relationship has a serious chance of working out in the long run, they're delusional.[/color] [quote]and i can tell if im dating a dude in real life internet you cant[/QUOTE] [color=deeppink]With the state of cosmetic surgery nowadays? It's definately possible for anyone to be fooled. And I could tell I wasn't dating a guy, as far as is possible in any situation. Just because it's over the internet doesn't mean one never actually [i]speaks[/i] to each other.[/color]

[color=deeppink]But... don't most relationships, on the net or off it, exist because somebody [i]wants[/i] it to? Wanting a boyfriend or girlfriend is pretty much a prerequisite for dating, and it's certainly not pathetic. As far as not enjoying each other's company... they have to enjoy it on some level, or they wouldn't interact with each other. I'd even say it's more likely to be "for the sake of dating" if it happens in person, [i]especially[/i] in the early teens. How many Jr. High/High schoolers date because they either want to improve their social status or simply because the other person looks good? I say that's harder to do online, because not only does it take away the popularity factor (due to it being mostly looked down upon), one is much less likely to enter into a relationship based soley on appearance.[/color] [quote name='oscarx'] I have seen in there forums gaia marriges you cant say that is not pathetic there getting fake marrige IS the most pathetic thing I have ever seen online next to cyber sex.[/quote] [color=deeppink]lol! You're really in the wrong place if you want support for that statement. Most of our members have had fake marriages at one time or another. that's a trend that's not going away any time soon.[/color]

[color=deeppink]Yeah, DL is [i]severely[/i] underused. The last to be introduced, and probably the least amount of screen time since then. Considering what [spoiler]we know about the future of the show,[/spoiler] that doesn't seem like it's going to change. On that note, I love the juxtaposition between these guys and their most famous comic book counterparts. Shadowcat = large black man. Hulk = stripper. Wolverine = cheerleader. Rogue = idealistic part-time nurse. Invisible Woman = 9th Doctor. I could go on, but I won't.[/color]

[quote name='SunfallE][COLOR=RoyalBlue]Lets take this a bit further shall we? I want to know, what's with people dating at all? After all whether you meet them online or not they could still be a sex offender. Meeting someone face to face is no guarantee that they won't be say a molester, murderer or rapist. Take rape for example: 84 percent of those raped knew their attacker. Knowing them in real life didn't make it any easier for them to realize that their 'date' was a rapist. [URL=http://www.aaets.org/arts/art13.htm]Source[/URL'] [/COLOR][/quote] [color=deeppink]Ah, you beat me to it. :cussing: [/color] [quote=lunox]Actually, I'm going to agree with oscarX because of the keyword 'kids'. As in, a couple of 13-year-olds who think they have a special special something because they both like the same anime. Nothing against online dating, it's just that a lot of it is a pathetic case of teens who want a boyfriend/girlfriend.[/quote] [color=deeppink]I had an internet relationship when I was 14. Did I think it was something special? No. I realized we were two kids who had never actually met. What we had was [i]nice[/i], don't get me wrong, and if I could go back and change it I wouldn't. Was it because of anime? Yes, but only because we found each other through OB; we never really talked about anime in any great detail. We merely connected.[/color]

[QUOTE=2007DigitalBoy][COLOR=DarkOrange]I resent parts of this post. I will agree that Blood+ is just boringness with good animation, but Eureka 7? Even if you don't enjoy it, that show is very active and cool. It's got a good story, likable characters, and a big WTF ending. Mar isn't meant for anyone above like 12, and since this IS Cartoon Network and they DO have a demographic to appeal to, it's a good choice. My little brothers absolutely love it. One Piece is lame because of what has been done to it, true, but I'm sure it has a lot of fans -- it is the number 1 anime in Japan so it's gotta be doing something here. Little kids love all that retarded yelling and stuff. Remember - demographic. Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo is still on and that is one of the greatest shows ever conceived, so shut up, lol. As for Zatch Bell, I really like that show as do my little brothers and, once more, CN's target audience. [/COLOR][/QUOTE] [color=deeppink]Then let the target demographic post about their opinion on CN shows. I am judging these shows simply on what I think of them, and whether or not they get CN some ratings doesn't affect that. And I don't enjoy Eureka 7, [i]and[/i] I don't find it active and cool. Maybe active, but active does not equal good. I also don't like the characters; whiney never really suited me, and those that aren't whiney still bore me. The story doesn't interest me either. EDIT: As far as One Piece is concerned, it only matters what CN shows because this thread is about whether or not Cartoon Network is going down the drain with anime. And they air the version that's lame. [/color]

[color=deeppink]Yeah, I'd say it has. I haven't really enjoyed an anime since FMA. Yeah, I watch Bleach, but I don't really enjoy it so much as go "wow, this is okay." And since I didn't watch FMA on CN, it's been even longer than that since I actually enjoyed watching AS's anime block. There is Naruto, though, which I do enjoy. I guess that counts, but it only has about 20 more episodes before that starts going downhill. The newer ones just aren't interesting. Trinity Blood was just Trigun with vampires, and it had [i]huge[/i] plot holes. Abel spent the first few episode horribly killing his enemies, then suddenly had an oath against killing that was convieniently forgotten the next episode. Double-u tee ef. Blood + is pretty, but boring. Same with Eureka 7. Mar is lame, One Piece has always been lame, last I checked they'd taken Bo-bo-bo off the air, and Zatch Bell is just plain stupid. At least Prince of Tennis was good for a laugh. One of those "so bad, it's good" types.[/color]

[color=deeppink]Yeah, sorry Charlie (lawl), I kinda dropped the ball this week. I should have a couple next week, if I get around to it. I've got a quick correction, though; Shy originally registered as shyguy511, not Shyguy. I've also found [URL=http://web.archive.org/web/20010718143016/www.otakuboards.com/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=14&t=000007]this link[/URL] regarding some new modships in V2. I'll try and include what I can get from that in my eventual rehaul of my list, but if someone beats me to it that's fine too. EDIT: This feels like I'm showing off, but I'd really like for my article to mention how in over six years I've never removed "Beware the nerds!" from my signature. As far as I know, no active member has had a sig that consistent. I've had it there since I registered. EDIT EDIT: Somebody post something already! Article on Ben.[/color] Ben (registered in April of 2001) is a long-time member of Otakuboards. He quickly became known for his love of Puppetmon and his utter lack of modesty, and was a prominent poster in the popular Digimon forum during its heyday. Ben was an avid roleplayer, and he participated in many popular RPGs including the immensely popular Digistory, where he delighted in playing a villain that could be described as ?Ken if was [I]truly[/I] evil.? Among his other notable endeavors are When Humans are the Enemy and Hero. He also introduced fanfiction to the Pokemon forum with his story on mutated Cubones, which proved to be very popular (if unfinished). Ben?s title, as of May 2007, is ?Forgotten Oldie,? a reputation not helped by his lack of activity. He has recently attained the holy grail of the otaku: a girlfriend who plays video game and watches anime. Ben has spent his recent leisure time losing his soul to World of Warcraft and growing a beard that is threatening to eat his face.

[quote name='Fyxe][size=1']... My Chemical Romance? On Guitar Hero?[/size][/quote] [color=deeppink]It makes me sad. Fortunately, Deep Purple makes me happy again! Not having a 360, none of it even matters anyway. I have a question, though; has anyone here beaten the insanity that is Expert Jordan? [/color]

[color=deeppink]I hated prom. I had to get dressed up, which I always hate, and it was so damn cold. Not to mention it was really a crappy dance. I'm not fond of dances anyway, but this one... it kept jumping from country to rap, and had more than one song by that band that mixes the two. I left the room for those. Post-prom was also boring. A bunch of lame attractions. Pssh. My date was awesome, though, so I had fun before it. We had so much sushi, we were going to be sick.[/color]

[quote name='r2vq][color=#007520]Next season's Heroes has been confirmed to be [spoiler]full of all new Heroes around the world. It is supposed to have a totally new storyline, but some of this season's Heroes will make appearances.[/spoiler'] :-/ I'm not sure how I feel about that...[/color][/quote] [color=deeppink]Yeah, that's what I was talking about. Personally, [spoiler]I hate the "new cast a year" approach. It ruined Digimon for me, heh. Not to mention my love for Hiro; I feel that he's a pretty big draw for the show anyway. Getting rid of him may be be a pretty bad idea in general.[/spoiler][/color] [quote]*[size=1]Darn, for some reason I keep making that mistake. ;)[/size][/QUOTE] [color=deeppink]I don't see why, they're nothing alike. Trunks has purple hair! : P[/color]

[quote name='meggido]']I haven't claimed once that the two were the same thing. I just said that if someone claims that they are an anime fan sometimes all we can do is accept what they say. [/quote] [color=deeppink]This is where I got the impression that you did.[/color] [quote name='r2vq]']If you can proclaim your interest, you are therefore a fan of said pastime. ie If you say you're an Anime fan, you are.[/quote] [quote name='meggido']It might not seem right but what r2vq said is quite literally correct.[/quote] [color=deeppink]If you did not mean the same thing as my interpretation, my apologies As for the definitions... if she has an opinion, then her having an opinion is fact, unmarred by our interpretation, personal feelings, and prejudice. While it may be subjective to her, it is objective to [i]us.[/i] It is a quality she has, and exists independantly of the minds of others. I'd make the same argument for the other defintion; she exists outside of our minds, and thus we may only take an objective approach in that regard. Besides, it basically says "dealing with a person," which is what we've been doing.[/color] [quote name='Desbreko'] To add a bit to this, the definition actually allows for someone to be an anime fan even if they dislike every anime series ever made. Anime being a style of animation, all they have to do to be considered an anime fan is admire that style, not the shows themselves. Thus, throwing around specific titles, number of shows watched, or amount of interest is completely irrelevant in determining whether or not someone in an anime fan.[/quote] [color=deeppink]I don't know if this was directed against my argument or not; but she hates the style of animation, heh. Hell, she hates animation altogether from what I can gather. One of those 'if it's not real, it's stupid" types. I do recognize that admiration may come in different forms. ; )[/color]

[quote name='Meggido']And the person she was telling that she liked anime would have to take it from word of mouth that she was a admirer of anime (if we're gonna continue to use that term). You might be able to say with certainty that she is in fact not, but her boyfriend cannot. This is what makes the topic truly subjective. Though you're point makes it seem you didn't really understand my point before.[/quote] [color=deeppink]And your point makes it seem that you're missing my point altogether, the one I originally made; that simply because somebody is saying they are, does not mean they are. Further, what she feels is not determined by by anybody else. She is hates anime [i]completely independant[/i] of whether or not somebody realizes it.[/color] [quote]You say you wouldn't want to disprove them, and I'm certain no one would bother taking the time to do so either, but what I was saying is that we are walking a fine line regarding the idea of someone being a fan and not being one since majority of the time we are hearing people's opinions coming from word of mouth, weather true or untrue.[/quote] [color=deeppink]And I'm saying that claiming to be an anime fan and being an anime fan are two different things. That is the very crux of my arguement. The topic is, after all, "what is an anime fan." While we may squabble over how devoted one has to be to be an anime fan, I don't see how anyone can accept a definition that doesn't list "liking anime" as a prerequisite.[/color] [quote]Actually it's not that set in concrete. By saying it's objective you're suggesting that this will never change.[/quote] [color=deeppink]No, no I'm not. I could claim the wind is blowing, and that would be objective. Doesn't mean the wind would always be blowing. Objective does not mean eternal. On that note, let's look at the definitions. [url]http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/objective[/url] (pay close attention to the definition of wordnet #3; no "insertion of a fictional matter") [url]http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/subjective[/url] (note the use of "percieved" and "biased") Most of those relevant definitions for objective involve observable phenomena; her actions and her words would certainly fit this bill. Her opinions also exist seperate from the observer (boyfriend). I'll admit that my arguements regarding "subjective" are a little shakier when seeing the definitions, let's look at the definition I used originally. "Philosophy. relating to or of the nature of an object as it is known in the mind as distinct from a thing in itself." That is the definition I have been using. Clearly, his belief ragarding her was (as far as I know) distinct from her herself. You seem to have been using a different defintion, though, one that does fit. So while it is subjective, it's still not subjective. ; )[/color]

[quote name='Meggido']It might not seem right but what r2vq said is quite literally correct. If you can't prove that they do like anime or don't like anime then you just have to take their word for it. With that friend you mentioned earlier you can prove that she was lying so she's in fact a different case. Simply put he's saying if someone says they're a fan of anime and you can't prove otherwise then you just have to take from word of mouth that they are a fan.[/quote] [color=deeppink]I wouldn't want to disprove them. But that doesn't mean they [i]are[/i] one. Something doesn't have to be proven for it to be true. The whole debate here is over what an anime fan is, and going by the definition of "admirer of anime," my friend alone would prove that saying you are one does not make you one. I could claim to someone that I watch 24 every week. That person would still have no reason to disbelieve me, but I would still be lying.[/color] [quote]As for it not being subjective, it actually is very subjective. It may be that you either do or don't like it but that's subjective to change from person to person. When you look at something subjectively you're not taking a 1 person basis but you are taking a wide selection of sources to base that on.[/QUOTE] [color=deeppink]If something is subjective, it is solely an opinion. Yes, interests may change from person to person, but whether or not someone [i]is[/i] interested is objective. While there may be different levels of interest (like/love/etc), it doesn't matter. If someone is interested in something, it is an objective fact that they aren. If they are not interested in something, it is an objective fact that they aren't.[/color]

[QUOTE=r2vq][color=#007520]Now how do we judge if someone actually has an interest in something? We can't. It's a qualitative trait, not quantitative. It differs for each person. Thus, each person has to proclaim their interest one form or another. If you can proclaim your interest, you are therefore a fan of said pastime. ie If you say you're an Anime fan, you are. -r2[/color][/QUOTE] [color=deeppink]So what you're saying is that if we can't prove they're not, then they are? This doesn't seem right, as it allows your simpler definition of "admirer of anime" to be applied to someone who hates anime. Case in point, that friend I mentioned earlier who absolutely despised anime, but put on a show so as to please her boyfriend. This isn't really a subjective thing; people either like it or they don't. My (or your) ability to determine if they do does not change their opinion.[/color]

[QUOTE=Dagger]@Lunox: Hence, after all this, I stand by my statement that people are anime fans as long as they claim to be anime fans. Even if they're lying (as Nerdsy said half in jest), I'd argue that it still qualifies as a kind of performative coming out. ;) ~Dagger~[/QUOTE] [color=deeppink]And I'd argue, based on firsthand experience, that that is not always the case. I've got a close friend who claimed to like anime to impress her then-boyfriend, although it was clear that she had no interest whatsoever. I would also argue that it is possible that someone may claim to be a fan, but not know what anime actually is; I've heard Justice League referred to as anime. I would propose a definition that covers the entire spectrum; "Someone who enjoys anime."[/color]

[QUOTE=RobinWH]in the other Heroes thread someone told me there is supposed to be 5 seasons... WHEW ! [/QUOTE] [color=deeppink]The writers have 5 seasons [i]planned[/i]. I believe it's only been picked up for two seasons, including this one. And unless Claire goes back to [URL=http://haydenimages.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=193&pos=1]this,[/URL] I shall remain uninterested. As far as tonight's episode is concerned? Not enough Hiro. Every episode should involve Hiro much more than this one did. Other than that, wonderful. EDIT: So apparently, [spoiler]season 2 won't be about the same characters? Lame.[/spoiler][/color]

[quote name='Daasheus']And, I don't Negatively stereotype Christians, I was just stating facts, which are not really stereotypes, though I admit I was wrong in some of the things that I mentioned. [/quote] [color=deeppink]Facts can be stereotypes. Nothing in the [URL=http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/stereotype]definition of stereotype[/URL] says that a stereotype has to be false; ironically, that is a false sterteotype that many people have.[/color]

[quote name='DeadSeraphim][size=1][color=indigo][font=arial]13, including a chicken and four Transformers.[/font][/color'][/size][/quote] [color=deeppink]Don't forget that ferret. Although I understand you not wanting to talk about it. *shudder*[/color]

[quote name='Dagger']Someone who says he's an anime fan.[/quote] [color=deeppink]And if he's lying? : P This whole "only watched things on Adult Swim" thing doesn't even make any sense. Here, I'll list the animes I watched series I've watched or am watching. Trigun, Full Metal Alchemist, Cowboy Bebop, Bleach, Naruto, Witch Hunter Robin, Neon Genesis Evangelion, OgreSlayer, Samurai Deeper Kyo, The Hakkenden, the Dragonballs,, Sailor Moon. These are all I remember offhand. See how all but three of those have been showed on Cartoon Network? Samurai Deeper Kyo has been shown on Starz Action, so that could easily count. Heres the thing, though; with the exception of Bleach, [i]I didn't watch any of these on Cartoon Network.[/i] Most of those I saw well before it was aired on CN. And if we're going to go with the the more general "animes that's been shown on TV," like DigitalBoy said, yes, all but two of those have been shown on TV, and I'm sure there's more I haven't listed. Again, most of those I saw before they hit TV. Or at least didn't watch them while they were on TV. This is [i]coincidence.[/i] The networks just so happened to have similar tastes to mine. I may come off as someone who only watches pre-packaged Anime, I don't. And I'm certainly not the only one like this.[/color]

[QUOTE=James][font=arial]It depends what you're referencing though. As I said earlier, OB was originally born out of Absolute GameBoy. I suppose it depends whether you count AGB and theOtaku.com: Forums as actually being early versions of OB itself. [/font][/QUOTE] [color=deeppink]I do. The Otaku.com: Forums is V1, after all, and AGB is the same thing with a different name and slightly different focus. And I was merely pointing out that while Anime has never been the top draw, it's still had times when it was pretty prominent.[/color]