Yu Yu Hakusho! Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 My friend, Megan, beleives in witchcraft and she claims that we can go back in time to warn the people about 9/11 since she lost a family member in the accident. She says that the spell is to make a time machine and go back in time, although me and my other friend, Lauren, don't beleive that we can change past events. Megan is really serious, although she isn't some goth witch who wears black and stuff like that....she's not too wierd, I guess, but she's really serious about this time travel spell, although she says it might not work. She claims to have done a money spell and to have gotten 50 dollars and she says she did a revenge spell on her ex-boyfriend and something strange happened to him, like he failed his classes or lost his next girlfriend......I really don't beleive her, but tell me what you think. Is she just dreaming or is she really messed up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 People believe alot of things. I don't think anyone has any place telling someone what they believe if wrong. SO just let her believe, and always remember; You don't have to believe. Believing is a choice, not a requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deedlit Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 [color=009966]First of all, I don't believe the time travel thing. It'd be nice if it would work, but I wouldn't dwell on that idea for long. As for the part about the "revenge spell," that could be pure coincidance, or there might be (which I highly doubt) a real force of power or something at work. I had two friends who were into witchcraft and such, and they cast a spell on two people that they absolutely hated. Well, the next day, neither of them showed up for school. A few days later, one had caught the flu, and the other had pulled some ligaments (sp?) in her knee. It's basically superstition.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven's Cloud Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 [color=indigo]Ask her if she can cast a spell that will make me $50. I could really use the money after my Holloween weekend of barhopping. At least ask her to travel back in time and put some asprin in my pocket so I don't have such a wicked headache.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu Yu Hakusho! Posted November 3, 2002 Author Share Posted November 3, 2002 I'll ask.......but there are no promises......! NE WAY.... I'll go with TN's advice. He's (sorry if you are a girl, I'm just not sure) pretty sensible. I'll just let Megan do what she wants. It's not like I keep on telling her to NOT beleive...I just kind of go along with it if she talks about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Yu Yu Hakusho! [/i] [B]I'll ask.......but there are no promises......! NE WAY.... I'll go with TN's advice. He's (sorry if you are a girl, I'm just not sure) pretty sensible. I'll just let Megan do what she wants. It's not like I keep on telling her to NOT beleive...I just kind of go along with it if she talks about it. [/B][/QUOTE] Lol, I'm a guy, although... The joke lies within those who will surely get it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiroMunkie Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 [color=indigo]Witchcraft is not a negative idea. Your friend can believe what she wants to believe. You say that she did a revenge spell. Well, if it actually [i]did[/i] work, she can not call herself a witch. She would then be labeled a warlock, which I have read means "oath breaker". They are not supposed to use their power for venegeance or personal gain. Witches, in general, are not the common idea of satanic, blood drinking evil. It was the Christians who gave them that stereotype. Witchcraft is a Pagan belief, they don't even believe in "Satan". They do not drink blood. Back in the day, they did make sacrifices. This was usually done on Samhain (pronounced "sow-en"), which through a series of events became what we know as Halloween. It was the night they believed the realm of the dead/supernatural and living were closest together. They knew that not all spirits were friendly so they would give animal sacrifices. They would also leave treats outside their doors at night so the spirits would take them instead of causing mischief in their homes (the concept of trick-or-treating is believed to be derived from this). Witches today, as far as I know, no longer practice the animal sacrifices. So I am just letting you know here that witchcraft is not a bad thing. One of my better friends also believes in witchcraft, and I have done my research so I could get a better understanding of where she would come from in certain ideas. The whole concept of going back in time. I do not know what to think about that one. It seems a little far-fetched. Anything is possible, I suppose. If your friend can prove it, that would be quite an accomplishment. Though, I'm assuming your friend is on the younger side, so I doubt her power as a witch is great enough to do [i]anything[/i] of that size.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cloricus Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 Lol, I think I get it TN... If she is telling the truth then she must be stopped. You take one person out of sep11 she/he may warn others; others may ring the police and leave the building. Every one would get out the plane would be stopped and it would do an amazing amount of damage to the present that we exist in at the moment. That is leavening out the paradox that if she goes back and gets the friend out and the planes don?t hit the building in the future she wont go back because the friend is out and then the attacks happen again and she hasn't gone back to get the friend out the friend still dies... It's more complexes than that but I couldn't be bothered typing it... As for majic you never know. -Lord Epssy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Asphyxia Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 [color=darkred]Magick? Sure, I believe in magick. I don't believe it can change events in history, though. I've got a friend who's Wiccan. Are we talking about Wicca here? Assuming we are talking about Wicca here, which we seem to be, the revenge spell would, as Piro said, class them as a Warlock. The Wiccan Rede's most famous lines would class her so... "Eight Words the Wiccan Rede fulfill, An' it harm none, do what ye will."[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 [size=1]Why do you spell it with a k?[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cloricus Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 No they were talking in general. Wicca?s pfft, hate them all. It is the one thing that I will say I truly hate. Personal events lead to that, you may not ask. -Lord Epssy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deedlit Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 [color=009966]I think that's how they spell it in Europe or something, but that's just what my teacher said. *shrugs* LOL I get it, TN. [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Asphyxia Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 [color=darkred]Sorry, 6 years of hanging around with my friend has corrupted me. He refuses to spell it without a k.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mina Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 I think maybe losing the family member may have something to do with it. Tell her to go in for counseling or something or she'll get over it in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 [size=1]Mm. That's curious. I add the [i]k[/i] if I'm using it as a verb, but that's because 'magicked' makes more sense than 'magiced.' And I suppose you could say I [i]believe[/i] in witchcraft, but I do not condone it..[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticBabe Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 let her believe what she wants. I believe in magic, it can happen. i think of it this way, so many books of today and that go way back in history have many things in common. one of them being magic. how can something that has been written for century's and not be true? when i was er...having some religious delimma's, i found out that its the same for the bible (i'm catholic) even though my religion is against believing in magic. So i think magic could possibly be out there. and guys, don't call me crazy, i don't need to see men in white jackets. oh, i thought warlocks were just guys and witches just girls? according to charmed all warlocks are evil. but thats just a show. but i was sure warlocks were just men/boys/males Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*madEE* Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sara [/i] [B][size=1]Why do you spell it with a k?[/size] [/B][/QUOTE] I can't exactly remember why but I think it's because with the k it's suppose to be "true magick" while magic is just simple tricks. Something of the sort. But I also agree with others, let her believe in what she wants to, but she should never harm anyone in doing so. Especially as you say she took revenge upon some people. I believe in magick, (I too am Catholic though) but then again I think almost anything is possible if they believed in it. However some things should never be meddled with, and that whatever people do consequences will follow. Perhaps she should think out what she is going to do, before following through. MysticBabe - I too thought warlocks were guys.... eh too much tv rots my brain, but they'll never take mine away from me. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittyLynn Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 I don't believe in the time travel thing but as for the money and boyfriend thing all i can say is coincendence...and i can't spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genkai Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 lol i get it TN... my friends are wiccans(2 of them) and they are some of the happiest and nicest people i know...ten there are a few really weird people. NOT GOTHS but normal kids, who all went to juvenile hall for breaking in somewhere to cast a spell or something. all the time they're like"yah its raining cause i cast a rain spell for the school and a 2 mile radius yesterday...." whatever well, if she wants to travel back in time let her, but if she does it would make sense she could only observe...if she saw herslef shed probably kill herself ol... i wouldnt take her too seriously, but if she thinks she can let her try..... also hook me up with a spell for grave of the fireflies, ive wanted it for a while...lol im sure there's a miyazaki spell.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boogeta Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 I just think that she is dreaming because I know what it feels like to lose a family member I think that she was wacthing tv or reading or something then she thinks up a crazy way to make her family member come back:wigout: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sui Generis Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 I would give ya'all a long detailed post about how I believe in magic(k) and how I have examples to back me up, but I'm really too tired to do that today.... Anyway I'll just say this. Time travel? I don't think she can time travel, and even if it was possible she wouldn't be that powerful of a warlock at such a young age to be able to. The revenge and money thing, its possible. I have a quick question isn't one of the wiccan beliefs is that if it harms someone the spell or consequence comes back at you 3 fold? One of my wiccan friends said that. Let her believe what she wants. You couldn't stop her from believing it anyways, and if you could you don't have the right to. Lol TN yeah I get it, I'm sure most people here get it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by cloricus [/i] [B]Wicca?s pfft, hate them all. It is the one thing that I will say I truly hate. Personal events lead to that, you may not ask. -Lord Epssy [/B][/QUOTE] That's very narrow-minded and predjudiced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkey Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 I remember reading somewhere that time travel was scientifically a theory. The article said something about there appearing small gates at random in various parts of the universe, each one lasting only for a very short period of time. However, they can only travel to the past, and there's no way to control the gates. So, it could be possible to go back in time, but the chances of getting to a desired date a basically impossible. Now, I've got ideas of how to explain magick, but they would end up starting a heated debate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Maul Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 My friend believes in witchcraft, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sui Generis Posted November 3, 2002 Share Posted November 3, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Final_Flash[/i][b] That's very narrow-minded and predjudiced.[/B][/QUOTE] Not only that but pretty much against Otaku rules. I won't go into it, and I'm not gonna flame him. I'm just gonna state that what he said was wrong.... [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by cloricus [/i][b] Wicca?s pfft, hate them all. It is the one thing that I will say I truly hate. Personal events lead to that, you may not ask. -Lord Epssy [/B][/QUOTE] By the way I am a wiccan....newly joined so I don't know too much about it yet, but I still am one. Please next time I'd appreciate it if you'd hold your toungue unless you know well who you are going to hurt/damage/affect/ etc...next time. Also here is a link to information on the wiccan religion and witchcraft if you are interested in learning or just want to see what it is. I hope you do take the time to read it.[URL=http://www.wicca.com/celtic/wicca/wicca.htm][b]Wicca and Witchcraft[/URL][/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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