Ya)\/(I-YuGI Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 The sayains have been extinct ever since freeza destroyed the race. The only ones left are or were goku and vegeta but they had sons and daughters which came out sayains.(half) But since gohan ,goten,and trunks and vegeta's daughter( for got her name) are the only half sayains,that means there sons will be 1/3 sayains then if it continues like 1/4,1/5,1/6 until so little of the sayain blood is left,that means goku jr and vegeta jr are like 1/3 or even 1/4 sayain blood...... ( and my theory is that if u are not pure sayain or at least half sayian u are very weak) if it continues there wont be no more sayains (alive) which will be the destruction of earth........( goku ,vegeta and gohan the strongest sayains of the universe will be to old to protect it, another theory of mine) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 i guess not. i mean its kinda like the extinction of animals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinzouningen17 Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 No, it wont. As long as their is still a sliver of a Saiya-Jin(or any other race) blood cell within someone, then the race can never be killed. The only way to get rid of Saiya-Jin's now is if earth and everyone on it was destroyed(this is thousands of years later after half of the friggen population on earth has a piece of the Saiya-Jin's.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manic Webb Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 ...and this is assuming a random Saiyan never mated with someone on [i]another[/i] planet. Kakarrot was away from planet Vegeta when Freeza destroyed it... who's to say there weren't other baby Saiyans on other planets? And what about cloning? But I'm just "what if" ing. Memory of the Saiyan race might disappear, but the blood-line will still be there... barely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 This is really irrelevant seeing as how there is nothing at all after DBGT, anyway; but to satisfy my hunger to sound smart for the evening, I'll give y'all my theories on the subject: If there were to be a series beyond GT, the only way that it would be possible would be if: a) They somehow brought back Gokou and Vejita and all those other folks. b) Gokou Jr. and Vejita Jr. met some other exceptionally strong fighters and the story prgressed from there. Or c) Some combination of the aforementioned. The most likely of those is C. I mean, there can't very well be a DB saga without Gokou and, honestly, Vejita; so there's choice A...and they can't just get rid of Gokou and Vejita Jr., now can they? :smirk: -Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 Genes are like halflifes of a substance. As long as they continue to get passed down (meaning as long as someone with Saiya-jin blood has an offspring) then the Saiya-jin race is still existant. It can never go away. Just like a element with a 2 second half life never truely goes away. it just gets smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller...... etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiroMunkie Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 [color=indigo]You seem to be a little confused when it comes to heredity. So I shall explain this as simply as I can. It is not too confusing. Kakarot and Vegeta, as you said, are both 100% Saiya-jin. Kakarot has a child with ChiChi, and Vegeta with Bulma. ChiChi and Bulma are both 100% Human. This makes Gohan, Trunks, Goten, and Bra all 50% Human and 50% Saiya-jin. This is figured since the offspring of two people who are both 100% of a separate race cannot be 200%. So, being that only two people were involved in the conception of the offspring, and the product of the hereditary percentage much equal 100, one can deduce that dividing one hundred by 2 (the number of people involved in the conception) you will get half of your answer. In this case, as mentioned before, you will get 50. Then you would take this product, minus the desired sum of 100 to get the other value. This case is simple since it goes only 50/50, and you had no problem with that. It is when you got to the third generation (ie: Gohan and Videl's daughter; Pan) that you made a mistake. In figuring Pan's hereditary statistics in what percentage Saiya-jin she is, and what percentage Human she is, you would follow the same steps above, just more intricate as you are now dealing with someone who is 100% Human (Videl) and a hybrid (Gohan) who is 50% Human and 50% Saiya-jin. You have two separate equations to work with in this case. To figure out Pan's Human influence, the equation would look something like: [b](Videl's Human Percentage + Gohan's Human Percentage) / 2 = Pan's Human Percentage[/b] And/Or, to figure Pan's Saiya-jin influence, the equation would look something like: [b](Videl's Saiya-jin Percentage + Gohan's Saiya-jin Percentage) / 2 = Pan's Saiya-jin Percentage[/b] So, putting this into effect, let us calculate Pan's Saiya-jin influence. Starting at the beginning, Videl does not carry any Saiya-jin blood, so her value would be [b]0[/b]. Gohan is 50% Saiya-jin, so his value would be [b]50[/b]. Your equation now looks like this. (0 + 50) / 2 = Pan's Saiya-jin Percentage. Knowing to always work inside the parenthesis first, we add [b]0[/b] and [b]50[/b] together, which, obviously, is [b]50[/b]. So now you have: [b]50 / 2 = P[/b]. Now, if you have not already guessed, you take [b]50[/b] and divide it by [/b]2[/b], which gives you [b]25 = P[/b]. Pan is 25% Saiya-jin, which, to make a long story short ( ... too late... ) makes her 75% Human. So the pattern, starting with Pan in Saiya-jin heredity, as each generation goes by, would go 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32, 1/64... etc. This, of course, is assuming that the other partner has no Saiya-jin or other race besides Human in them. In conclusion, as long as the children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, and so on do not die before they can reproduce another offspring there will always be someone with Saiya-jin blood in them. The amount of Saiya-jin blood will just continue to become smaller and smaller as each generation passes by. [size=1][edit] Wow, look at all these posts that happened while I was typing mine. ^_^[/size][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted November 5, 2002 Share Posted November 5, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by PiroMunkie [/i] [B][color=indigo]You seem to be a little confused when it comes to heredity. So I shall explain this as simply as I can. It is not too confusing. Kakarot and Vegeta, as you said, are both 100% Saiya-jin. Kakarot has a child with ChiChi, and Vegeta with Bulma. ChiChi and Bulma are both 100% Human. This makes Gohan, Trunks, Goten, and Bra all 50% Human and 50% Saiya-jin. This is figured since the offspring of two people who are both 100% of a separate race cannot be 200%. So, being that only two people were involved in the conception of the offspring, and the product of the hereditary percentage much equal 100, one can deduce that dividing one hundred by 2 (the number of people involved in the conception) you will get half of your answer. In this case, as mentioned before, you will get 50. Then you would take this product, minus the desired sum of 100 to get the other value. This case is simple since it goes only 50/50, and you had no problem with that. It is when you got to the third generation (ie: Gohan and Videl's daughter; Pan) that you made a mistake. In figuring Pan's hereditary statistics in what percentage Saiya-jin she is, and what percentage Human she is, you would follow the same steps above, just more intricate as you are now dealing with someone who is 100% Human (Videl) and a hybrid (Gohan) who is 50% Human and 50% Saiya-jin. You have two separate equations to work with in this case. To figure out Pan's Human influence, the equation would look something like: [b](Videl's Human Percentage + Gohan's Human Percentage) / 2 = Pan's Human Percentage[/b] And/Or, to figure Pan's Saiya-jin influence, the equation would look something like: [b](Videl's Saiya-jin Percentage + Gohan's Saiya-jin Percentage) / 2 = Pan's Saiya-jin Percentage[/b] So, putting this into effect, let us calculate Pan's Saiya-jin influence. Starting at the beginning, Videl does not carry any Saiya-jin blood, so her value would be [b]0[/b]. Gohan is 50% Saiya-jin, so his value would be [b]50[/b]. Your equation now looks like this. (0 + 50) / 2 = Pan's Saiya-jin Percentage. Knowing to always work inside the parenthesis first, we add [b]0[/b] and [b]50[/b] together, which, obviously, is [b]50[/b]. So now you have: [b]50 / 2 = P[/b]. Now, if you have not already guessed, you take [b]50[/b] and divide it by [/b]2[/b], which gives you [b]25 = P[/b]. Pan is 25% Saiya-jin, which, to make a long story short ( ... too late... ) makes her 75% Human. So the pattern, starting with Pan in Saiya-jin heredity, as each generation goes by, would go 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32, 1/64... etc. This, of course, is assuming that the other partner has no Saiya-jin or other race besides Human in them. In conclusion, as long as the children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, and so on do not die before they can reproduce another offspring there will always be someone with Saiya-jin blood in them. The amount of Saiya-jin blood will just continue to become smaller and smaller as each generation passes by. [/color] [/B][/QUOTE] Funny thing is, I said that exact same thing in less than 5 lines. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinetic Posted November 5, 2002 Share Posted November 5, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by PiroMunkie [/i] [B][color=indigo]This is figured since the offspring of two people who are both 100% of a separate race cannot be 200%. So, being that only two people were involved in the conception of the offspring, and the product of the hereditary percentage much equal 100, one can deduce that dividing one hundred by 2 (the number of people involved in the conception) you will get half of your answer.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] [color=darkblue] And you're just going to [i]assume[/i] that only two people were involved in conceiving each of these children :p But, back on subject, that's all true, but TN explained it the short way, which I just learned about in my Physics/Chemistry class, although that seems a little more like Biology, but I guess you can relate it to Physics because of the simple Algebra. [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boogeta Posted November 6, 2002 Share Posted November 6, 2002 Does that mean that the offsprings would get less stronger and less stronger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted November 6, 2002 Share Posted November 6, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by boogeta [/i] [B]Does that mean that the offsprings would get less stronger and less stronger [/B][/QUOTE] Not exactly. if you've seen the Future DBGT Special, you'll see Gokou Jr who becomes Super Saiya-jin at a very early age without much training at all. It all depends really. When you talk genes, anything can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegeta rocker Posted November 6, 2002 Share Posted November 6, 2002 I agree with TN with genes it s funny. For example some families kids have things that can skip generations like eye color or hair color. Some will probably be weaker but then again some will probably be just as strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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