StrikeGundam Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 [color=navy]Pretty solid deck, Marik_Duelist, but your deck would benifit from Manju of the Ten-Thousand Hands, which comes out in IOC. It acts as both Senju and Sonic Bird in one.[/color] [color=#000080][u]My Revised Semi-Beatdown Deck[/u][/color] [color=#000080]Tribute monsters(3) 1xGreat Maju Garzett 1xDespair From The Dark 1xSummoned Skull[/color] [color=navy]Non-tribute monsters(21) 2xRoyal Keeper 1xCyber Jar 1xX-Head Cannon 2xMan-Eater Bug 1xMagician of Faith 1xKycoo the Ghost Destroyer 1xBazoo the Soul Eater[/color] [color=navy]1xOpticlops 1xWall of Illusion 1xGiant Orc[/color] [color=navy]1xSecond Goblin 1xBlindly Loyal Goblin[/color] [color=navy]1xPenguin Soldier[/color] [color=navy]1xWitch of the Black Forest[/color] [color=navy]1xMask of Darkness[/color] [color=navy]1xKuriboh[/color] [color=navy]1xGreat Angus[/color] [color=#000080]1xSinister Serpent[/color] [color=#000080]1xZolga[/color] [color=navy]Magic/Spell(13) 1xToken Thanksgiving 1xChange of Heart 1xFairy Meteor Crush 1xHarpie's Feather Duster 1xBook Of The Moon[/color] [color=navy]1xWicked-Breaking Flamberge - Baou[/color] [color=navy]1xMonster Reborn 1xOfferings To The Doomed 1xRageki 1xSnatch Steal 1xSoul Exchange 1xScapegoat[/color] [color=navy]1xMystical Space Typhoon[/color] [color=navy]Trap(11) 1xBad Reaction to Simochi[/color] [color=navy]1xCall of the Haunted 1x7 Tools of the Bandit[/color] [color=navy]1xMagic Cylinder[/color] [color=navy]1xSakuretsu Armor[/color] [color=navy]1xRing Of Destruction[/color] [color=navy]1xCeasefire[/color] [color=navy]1xNegate Attack[/color] [color=navy]1xAltar For Tribute[/color] [color=navy]1xJudgement of Anubis[/color] [color=#000080]1xBottomless Trap Hole[/color] [color=#000080]Total=48 cards[/color] [color=#000080]Again, please try to evaluate the entire deck.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ArgolisDragon Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 Too many monsters, too little magic. Bring the monster zone to 16-17 TOTAL. You don't want your hand to be clogged up with monsters as you can only normal summon one per turn. Boost it up with staple m/t: Raigeki Black Hole Harpy's Feather Broom MST x3 Heavy Storm Change of Heart Robbery(Snatch) Reborn Monster Early Burial Pot of Greed Grace of an Angel(Graceful Charity of an Angel) Remove your over-bloated trap section completely. Just go with this: 1-2 Waboku 1 Destructing Ring 1 Call of Haunted 1 Imperial Decree if you have extra space, a Tidal Wave might do. Keep total deck at 40. No more, no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 [QUOTE=StrikeGundam][color=navy]Pretty solid deck, Marik_Duelist, but your deck would benifit from Manju of the Ten-Thousand Hands, which comes out in IOC. It acts as both Senju and Sonic Bird in one.[/color] [color=#000080][u]My Revised Semi-Beatdown Deck[/u][/color] [color=#000080]Tribute monsters(3) 1xGreat Maju Garzett 1xDespair From The Dark 1xSummoned Skull[/color] [color=navy]Non-tribute monsters(21) 2xRoyal Keeper 1xCyber Jar 1xX-Head Cannon 2xMan-Eater Bug 1xMagician of Faith 1xKycoo the Ghost Destroyer 1xBazoo the Soul Eater[/color] [color=navy]1xOpticlops 1xWall of Illusion 1xGiant Orc[/color] [color=navy]1xSecond Goblin 1xBlindly Loyal Goblin[/color] [color=navy]1xPenguin Soldier[/color] [color=navy]1xWitch of the Black Forest[/color] [color=navy]1xMask of Darkness[/color] [color=navy]1xKuriboh[/color] [color=navy]1xGreat Angus[/color] [color=#000080]1xSinister Serpent[/color] [color=#000080]1xZolga[/color] [color=navy]Magic/Spell(13) 1xToken Thanksgiving 1xChange of Heart 1xFairy Meteor Crush 1xHarpie's Feather Duster 1xBook Of The Moon[/color] [color=navy]1xWicked-Breaking Flamberge - Baou[/color] [color=navy]1xMonster Reborn 1xOfferings To The Doomed 1xRageki 1xSnatch Steal 1xSoul Exchange 1xScapegoat[/color] [color=navy]1xMystical Space Typhoon[/color] [color=navy]Trap(11) 1xBad Reaction to Simochi[/color] [color=navy]1xCall of the Haunted 1x7 Tools of the Bandit[/color] [color=navy]1xMagic Cylinder[/color] [color=navy]1xSakuretsu Armor[/color] [color=navy]1xRing Of Destruction[/color] [color=navy]1xCeasefire[/color] [color=navy]1xNegate Attack[/color] [color=navy]1xAltar For Tribute[/color] [color=navy]1xJudgement of Anubis[/color] [color=#000080]1xBottomless Trap Hole[/color] [color=#000080]Total=48 cards[/color] [color=#000080]Again, please try to evaluate the entire deck.[/color][/QUOTE] Meh. I'll give my take on this, I guess. :sleep: These are all all just suggestions, mind. I would say that you should ditch the Second Goblin. With just one Giant Orc, it's not worth trying to draw both him and the Orc at the same time. Wall of Illusion shouldn't be needed if you're pounding away at your opponent with powerful monsters. Sinister Serpent is a very good card, but I don't see how it would really help you. Unless you were forced to be defensive, but then the deck's whole purpose would have been defeated now, wouldn't it? Kuriboh isn't really necessary. Helpful, maybe, but in the interests of making your Deck smaller, I'd say take it out. So far as I can see, you've only got Scapegoat that would work with Token Thanksgiving. I'd either take out both, or just Token Thanksgiving. Bad Reaction to Simochi should come out. It's likely that the only LP your opponent will be gaining will be from Snatch Steal. Chances are, if you've stolen one of their monsters, you've got a clearer path to their LP anyways. Altar for a Tribute isn't really necessary. You could take it out and still maintain LP. Well, there's my say. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James P. Galvatron Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 My deck is random because most duelist in my area like to attack with cards that make certain types of monster unavailable, and they like to use strong high level strengthened monsters. So I keep the monster cards I have to always have my life points protected and I use spell/magic cards to drain there life points; I like to use cards with good effects that can raise or lower my opponents life points or destroy their magic or trap cards. I need most of the monster cards I have and I am hoping to get better trap and magic/spell cards to go in my deck to replace ones that I have and to equal out the number of magic/spell cards I need. There is one card I want called Final Countdown it makes it so after 20 turns whoever played the Final Countdown automatically wins the duel my friend has the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakashi Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 Euro Chaos deck. Light to Dark ratio is at 6:8. Based loosely on Clown Control; neither Chaos monster is really inhibited by the use of G-Bind or MoP. If worst comes to worst, Dragon's going to blow itself up anyway, and Soldier can still use its removal effect. Note that this conforms to the Euro restricted list as it was when it was last updated, with a few adjustments for inevitable IOC restrictions (CED, BLS). That means a number of crazy things, like being able to have 2x Witch and Sangan. [b]Tribute/Special Summon Monsters (3)[/b] 1x Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End 1x Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning 1x Jinzo [b]Non-Tribute Monsters (15)[/b] 3x White Magical Hat 2x Shining Angel 2x Dream Clown 2x Crass Clown 2x Witch of the Black Forest 2x Sangan 1x Cyber Jar 1x Magician of Faith [b]Magic (14)[/b] 3x Mystical Space Typhoon 2x Heavy Storm 2x Messenger of Peace 1x Pot of Greed 1x Raigeki 1x Dark Hole 1x Monster Reborn 1x Premature Burial 1x Painful Choice 1x Snatch Steal [b]Traps (8)[/b] 3x Gravity Bind 2x Waboku 1x Imperial Order 1x Mirror Force 1x Call Of The Haunted [b]Side-deck[/b] 3x Mystic Tomato 2x Drillago 2x D.D. Designator 2x Last Will 1x Delinquent Duo 1x The Forceful Sentry 1x Confiscation 1x Crass Clown 1x Magician of Faith 1x Shining Angel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ArgolisDragon Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 Eh, if anybody would like to take a shot at finding some weaknesses in this deck that would be greatly appreciated. Some of these are taking into account the new Konami ban list, so take that into note when not seeing some of the staples you normally see. Frontal Genocide - Japanese Rush Deck Monsters(15) 1x Psycho Shocker 1x Magic Warrior Breaker 1x Exclusivity Clan Virus 1x Surprising Matatsa 1x Dimensional Warrior Girl 1x Troop Commander 1x Frontline Mercenary Troopers 1x Berserker Ape 1x Blade Knight 1x Spirit Soul-Hunter 1x Demon-World Familiar 1x Magical Scientist 1x Critter 1x Regenerating Mummy 1x Black Forest Witch Magic(19) 1x Raise Dead 1x Pot of Greed 1x Angel's Gift 1x Black Hole 1x Hurricane 3x Cyclone 1x Tempest 1x Early Burial 1x Theft 2x Enemy Controller 1x Emissary of Genocide 1x Scapegoat 1x Steadfast Guard 1x Confiscate 2x Calling Reinforcements Trap(6) 1x Tidal Wave 1x Sixth Sense 2x Emissaries of Harmony 1x Cry of the Living Dead 1x Destruction Ring Fusion(12) - Standard Magical Scientist Arsenal -------------------------------------------------------- Chaos Plague - Viral Chaos Deck Monsters(16) 1x Chaos Soldier - Alpha 1x Chaos Emperor Dragon - Omega 1x Psycho Shocker 1x Magic Warrior Breaker 1x Black Forest Witch 1x Critter 1x Magical Scientist 2x Spirit Soul-Hunter 2x Dimension Warrior Girl 1x Exclusivity Virus 1x Marshmallow 1x Dark Jelloid 1x Nightmare of Thebes 1x Demon-World Familiar Magic(18) 1x Raise Dead 1x Pot of Greed 1x Angel's Gift 1x Black Hole 1x Hurricane 3x Cyclone 1x Tempest 1x Early Burial 1x Theft 1x Enemy Controller 1x Emissary of Genocide 1x Scapegoat 1x Steadfast Guard 1x Confiscate 2x Devil's Sancutary Trap(6) 2x Deck Destruction Virus of Death 1x Destruction Ring 1x Emissaries of Harmony 1x Cry of the Living Dead 1x Sixth Sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domon Posted March 14, 2004 Share Posted March 14, 2004 [QUOTE=ArgolisDragon]Eh, if anybody would like to take a shot at finding some weaknesses in this deck that would be greatly appreciated. Some of these are taking into account the new Konami ban list, so take that into note when not seeing some of the staples you normally see. Frontal Genocide - Japanese Rush Deck Monsters(15) 1x Psycho Shocker 1x Magic Warrior Breaker 1x Exclusivity Clan Virus 1x Surprising Matatsa 1x Dimensional Warrior Girl 1x Troop Commander 1x Frontline Mercenary Troopers 1x Berserker Ape 1x Blade Knight 1x Spirit Soul-Hunter 1x Demon-World Familiar 1x Magical Scientist 1x Critter 1x Regenerating Mummy 1x Black Forest Witch Magic(19) 1x Raise Dead 1x Pot of Greed 1x Angel's Gift 1x Black Hole 1x Hurricane 3x Cyclone 1x Tempest 1x Early Burial 1x Theft 2x Enemy Controller 1x Emissary of Genocide 1x Scapegoat 1x Steadfast Guard 1x Confiscate 2x Calling Reinforcements Trap(6) 1x Tidal Wave 1x Sixth Sense 2x Emissaries of Harmony 1x Cry of the Living Dead 1x Destruction Ring Fusion(12) - Standard Magical Scientist Arsenal -------------------------------------------------------- Chaos Plague - Viral Chaos Deck Monsters(16) 1x Chaos Soldier - Alpha 1x Chaos Emperor Dragon - Omega 1x Psycho Shocker 1x Magic Warrior Breaker 1x Black Forest Witch 1x Critter 1x Magical Scientist 2x Spirit Soul-Hunter 2x Dimension Warrior Girl 1x Exclusivity Virus 1x Marshmallow 1x Dark Jelloid 1x Nightmare of Thebes 1x Demon-World Familiar Magic(18) 1x Raise Dead 1x Pot of Greed 1x Angel's Gift 1x Black Hole 1x Hurricane 3x Cyclone 1x Tempest 1x Early Burial 1x Theft 1x Enemy Controller 1x Emissary of Genocide 1x Scapegoat 1x Steadfast Guard 1x Confiscate 2x Devil's Sancutary Trap(6) 2x Deck Destruction Virus of Death 1x Destruction Ring 1x Emissaries of Harmony 1x Cry of the Living Dead 1x Sixth Sense[/QUOTE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=Navy]I'm going to assume that your 12 Fusion monsters are for the first deck. If so then I definetly suggest dropping Scientist for your second deck and maybe adding a Don Zaloog. That's all I can really suggest at the moment.[/COLOR][/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ArgolisDragon Posted March 14, 2004 Share Posted March 14, 2004 Thanks but no thanks. Don Zaruug is basically saying, please come and kill my LP. It will rarely get in a direct attack or outmuscle anybody. Scientist however, despite its stats, is the ultimate field controller..all-purpose monster anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidus Snake Posted March 14, 2004 Share Posted March 14, 2004 [COLOR=RoyalBlue][SIZE=2][FONT=Garamond]I'd say to Argolis second deck, maybe add a few more light mons. Like Volt Girl, and the like. All I see in your deck is a few D.W.G. and more than likely she'll be out of play. So, if you are going to use both Chaos mons. you need more light.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ArgolisDragon Posted March 14, 2004 Share Posted March 14, 2004 Its a Viral DDVD deck. I can't afford to put in any more Light mons. However, the sidedeck carries a few Blade Knight and Saint Magician. 4-5 is fine enough. Besides, Demon World Familiar allows me to search for a level3 or lower mon and put it into my hand, instant Marshmallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted March 14, 2004 Share Posted March 14, 2004 Here's a deck that needs help, badly. Heh, well I don't have very good cards (with the exception of a few) in which I can make a good deck with so it's hard. Anyways, this is the best deck I have seemed to build. It has a record, so far, of 7-4. It's great compared to the others I've tried. Anyway, I'm looking to take out the Blue-Eyes, Red-Eyes and the Lord of D./Flute and replacing them with something slightly better fitted to the deck. And taking out other cards that now seem misplaced in my deck. [b][size=4]Monsters[/size][/b]: [b][i]7-8 Stars[/i][/b]: [COLOR=Sienna] 3x Blue-Eyes White Dragon 1x Red-Eyes Black Dragon[/COLOR] [b][i]5-6 Stars[/i][/b]: [COLOR=Sienna] 1x Mefist the Infernal General[/COLOR] [b][i]4 Stars[/i][/b]: [COLOR=Sienna] 1x Harpies Brother 1x Gravekeeper's Spear Soldier 2x Poison Mummy 1x Des Feral Imp 1x Witch of Black Forest 1x Lord of D.[/COLOR] [b][i]3-Below Stars[/i][/b]: [COLOR=Sienna] 3x Gravekeeper's Curse 1x Cyber Jar 3x Princess of Tsurugi 1x Sangan 1x Mask of Darkness 1x Spear Cretin 2x Magician of Faith[/COLOR] [i][b]Magic[/b][/i]: [color=green] 1x Snatch Steal 1x Change of Heart 1x Different Dimension Capsule 1x Monster Reborn 1x The Shallow Grave 1x Tribute to the Doomed 1x Riryoku 1x Dark Room of Nightmare 1x Mystical Space Typhoon 1x Ante 1x The Flute of Summoning Dragon 1x Nobleman of Extermination 1x Graceful Charity[/color] [i][b]Traps[/b][/i]: [color=purple] 2x Sakuretsu Armor 1x Trap Hole 1x Thunder of Ruler 1x Magic Jammer 1x Negate Attack 1x Ordeal of Traveler 1x Waboku 1x Nutrient Z 1x Attack and Receive[/color] [i][b]Total Monsters: 24 Total Magic: 13 Total Trap: 10 Total Deck: 47[/b][/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathBug Posted March 14, 2004 Share Posted March 14, 2004 [color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms]First, your deck is too durn big; we want to get it to around 40-42 cards. Hmmm.... First, remove all your Blue Eyes and Red eyes, plus the Lords and Flutes. Mefist is an average card, but you might want to consider upgrading to Great Maju Garret. You're deck's kind of all over the place, but a few other things I noticed were that it has too mny traps. Traps are a bit slow; I'd have seven, tops. Remove a few; whichever are the least helpful in a duel. Your deck lacks any muscle in the form of a strong lvl 4 monster. Try to get a Giant Orc, Archfiend Soldier, Slate Warrior, or Mad Dog of Darkness. As for your magics, remove Ante and Different Dimension Capsule. Add in two more Mystical Space Typhoons. You need to select a theme for your deck; Gravekeeper, perhaps? Anyway, my newest deck. It obeys the current Japanese Ban list, and is upated for Invasion of Chaos. Monsters: Marauding Captain Goblin Attack Force Amazon Archer DD Warrior Lady Matsata the Zapper Little Winguard Sasuke Samaurai Chaos Rider Gustaph Strike Ninja DD Scout Plane x2 Flying Kamikari #1 Mystic Tomato Witch of the Black Forest Sangan Traps: Waboku Mirror Force Torrential Tribute Destruction Ring Call of the haunted Reckless Greed Spell: Monster reborn Pot of Greed Dark hole Graceful Charity Snatch Steal Premature Burial Giant Trunade Mystical Space Typhoon x3 Mirage of Nightmares United We stand Fairy of the spring Reinforcements of the Army x2 Scapegoat The Warrior Returning Alive Heavy Storm Nobleman of crossout Card Destruction[/color][/size][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ArgolisDragon Posted March 14, 2004 Share Posted March 14, 2004 [QUOTE=DeathBug][color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms]First, your deck is too durn big; we want to get it to around 40-42 cards. Hmmm.... First, remove all your Blue Eyes and Red eyes, plus the Lords and Flutes. Mefist is an average card, but you might want to consider upgrading to Great Maju Garret. You're deck's kind of all over the place, but a few other things I noticed were that it has too mny traps. Traps are a bit slow; I'd have seven, tops. Remove a few; whichever are the least helpful in a duel. Your deck lacks any muscle in the form of a strong lvl 4 monster. Try to get a Giant Orc, Archfiend Soldier, Slate Warrior, or Mad Dog of Darkness. As for your magics, remove Ante and Different Dimension Capsule. Add in two more Mystical Space Typhoons. You need to select a theme for your deck; Gravekeeper, perhaps? Anyway, my newest deck. It obeys the current Japanese Ban list, and is upated for Invasion of Chaos. Monsters: Marauding Captain Goblin Attack Force Amazon Archer DD Warrior Lady Matsata the Zapper Little Winguard Sasuke Samaurai Chaos Rider Gustaph Strike Ninja DD Scout Plane x2 Flying Kamikari #1 Mystic Tomato Witch of the Black Forest Sangan Traps: Waboku Mirror Force Torrential Tribute Destruction Ring Call of the haunted Reckless Greed Spell: Monster reborn Pot of Greed Dark hole Graceful Charity Snatch Steal Premature Burial Giant Trunade Mystical Space Typhoon x3 Mirage of Nightmares United We stand Fairy of the spring Reinforcements of the Army x2 Scapegoat The Warrior Returning Alive Heavy Storm Nobleman of crossout Card Destruction[/color][/size][/font][/QUOTE] Why would you go by the Konami ban list if you're playing Eng? That list is meant for post-309 play Oo;; Personally, I think your deck is really random. If you're trying like a really really little rush, this deck won't do it. Your magic is random, as is your monster zone. Please fill me in on what your trying to run. Uh, for people that post their decks from now on, would you mind posting the theme along w/ the deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathBug Posted March 14, 2004 Share Posted March 14, 2004 [quote name='ArgolisDragon'] Why would you go by the Konami ban list if you're playing Eng? That list is meant for post-309 play Oo;;[/quote] [color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms] I go by the ban list because I think the ban was a good idea (although I don't agree with every card on there), and I want to ready myself for the change when it comes to the States. Adversity breeds improvement. [/color][/size][/font] [quote name='ArgolisDragon'] Personally, I think your deck is really random. If you're trying like a really really little rush, this deck won't do it. Your magic is random, as is your monster zone. Please fill me in on what your trying to run. Uh, for people that post their decks from now on, would you mind posting the theme along w/ the deck? [/quote] [color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms] Is it really random? I know I forgot to mention that it was a Warrior deck, but with nine of fifteen monsters being Warriors, it's not random. The DD Scout Planes are there to fuel the Strike Ninja, the tomato is there to get out Matsata, DDSP or one of the searchers, and the FK#1 is there to get out Winguard, S. Samaurai or the Chaos Rider. The Spells aren't random; they're Warrior support.[/color][/size][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ArgolisDragon Posted March 14, 2004 Share Posted March 14, 2004 [QUOTE=DeathBug][color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms] I go by the ban list because I think the ban was a good idea (although I don't agree with every card on there), and I want to ready myself for the change when it comes to the States. Adversity breeds improvement. [/color][/size][/font] [color=indigo][size=1][font=comic sans ms] Is it really random? I know I forgot to mention that it was a Warrior deck, but with nine of fifteen monsters being Warriors, it's not random. The DD Scout Planes are there to fuel the Strike Ninja, the tomato is there to get out Matsata, DDSP or one of the searchers, and the FK#1 is there to get out Winguard, S. Samaurai or the Chaos Rider. The Spells aren't random; they're Warrior support.[/color][/size][/font][/QUOTE] Standard, at least competitive standard for monster removal is 4-5 cards outside of T-Bolt and Black Hole. T-Bolt is banned, but you'll rarely get in any good attacks with this removal. This is a warrior deck, but it lacks Mercenary Troops, I find that kind of strange. Anyway pump up the removal, you want to dump stuff for Swift Black Ninja, reform your mon removal to 2 Dimensional Warrior Girl, 1 Mercenary Troops, 1 Clan Virus. Warrior deck or not, you'll need a Spirit Reaper, theme or no theme. At least 1 will by you some time, and when its destroyed it'll be fodder for the Swift Black Ninja. Psycho Shocker, rather, Jinzo, is a staple regardless of what deck it is, outside of a major trap deck. Winguard is kinda nice, I like the idea. There's a card I use in my Air Aggression deck that you might find kind of useful. Its from 305, called Word-Severing Samurai. I'm sure its not commonly widespread and it is a very overlooked card. I put it in my deck to give my deck an original and unique touch and it ended up working to my advantage. Its effect is: Pay 800LP. Until the end phase, magic and trap cards cannot be activated. So basically after your done using all your magic, turn this baby on and attack away. Take out the Archer and add in another Strike Team. Take out Reckless Greed, Fairy of the Spring, and Card Destruction for: Possibly another Waboku, an Emissary of Destruction/Fissure, and w/e ya want. The deck is pretty average. 6.5/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Hawkins Posted March 14, 2004 Share Posted March 14, 2004 My deck only has 40 cards because I have all 5 cards of and the smaller the deck tbetter the chances and the reason I have witch of the black forest is because after she dies you pick 1 card from your deck. All I need is two more god card I'm almost there.I also have 3 Penguin Soldiers because once they die you pick 2 cards. Exodia The Forbidden One x1 Left Arm Of The Forbidden One x1 Right Arm Of The Forbidden x1 Left Leg Of The Forbidden One x1 Right Leg Of The Forbidden One x1 Dark Magician x3 Blue Eyes White Dragon x3 Ultimate Blue Eyes White Dragon x1 Mirror Force x3 Magic Cylinder x3 Dark Girl x2 Obelisk The Tormentor x1 Monster Rebon x3 Trap Hole x3 Rageki x3 anti Rageki x2 Witch of the Black Forest x3 Penguin soldier x3 Man Eater Bug x2 :devil: :flaming: :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marik_Duelist Posted March 14, 2004 Share Posted March 14, 2004 Yeah, I know I posted this kinda deck before, but I just cant get the side deck right. The theme for my deck is Weenie Rush, using monsters that can attack LP directly. I need to make my side deck into a sort of burner, just in case. 2x Inaba White Rabbit 3x Jinzo # 7 3x Servant Of Catabolism 3x Rainbow Flower 3x Mystic Lamp 1x Cyber Jar 1x Des Koala 1x WOTBF 1x Kuriboh Total: 18 1x Creature Swap 1x Premature Burial 1x Nobleman Of Crossout 1x SoRL 3x Messenger Of Peace 1x Scapegoat 1x Pot Of Greed 1x Monster Reborn 1x Dark Hole 1x MST Total: 12 1x Mirror Force 1x Robbin' Goblin 2x Magic Drain 3x Gravity Bind 1x Minor Goblin Official 1x Waboku 1x Secret Barrel Total: 10 Total Deck: 40 Side Deck 1x Magician Of Faith 1x Cannon Soldier 1x Gravekeeper's Curse 1x Nightmare Wheel 1x Ceasefire 1x Magic Drain 1x Just Desserts 1x Magic Jammer 1x Fake Trap 1x Black Pendant 1x Nobleman Of Crossout 1x Graceful Charity 1x Book Of Moon 1x MST 1x Giant Trunade How can I make my side deck more burnerish? [QUOTE=Jim Hawkins]My deck only has 40 cards because I have all 5 cards of and the smaller the deck tbetter the chances and the reason I have witch of the black forest is because after she dies you pick 1 card from your deck. All I need is two more god card I'm almost there.I also have 3 Penguin Soldiers because once they die you pick 2 cards. Exodia The Forbidden One x1 Left Arm Of The Forbidden One x1 Right Arm Of The Forbidden x1 Left Leg Of The Forbidden One x1 Right Leg Of The Forbidden One x1 Dark Magician x3 [b]Get rid of all three[/b] Blue Eyes White Dragon x3 [b]Get rid of all three[/b] Ultimate Blue Eyes White Dragon x1 [b]Only out in Japanese, so...[/b] Mirror Force x3 [b]Isnt this restricted to one?[/b] Magic Cylinder x3 [b]I know this is restricted...[/b] Dark Girl x2 [b]You mean Dark Magician Girl? Take out[/b] Obelisk The Tormentor x1 [b]Take out!![/b] Monster Rebon x3 [b]Restricted to one[/b] Trap Hole x3 Rageki x3 [b]Restricted to one...[/b] anti Rageki x2 Witch of the Black Forest x3 [b]Restricted to one....[/b] Penguin soldier x3 Man Eater Bug x2 :devil: :flaming: :mad:[/QUOTE] You have the worst Exodia deck I've ever seen. Try getting cards like pot of greed, graceful charity, any thing that gets you to Exodia faster. Dont have tributes. [COLOR=#503F86][SIZE=1][b]I merged the two posts. I understand it's a new point, but if you want to add something please edit your original post. -Solo[/COLOR][/SIZE][/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Hawkins Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 I am sorry but I just started playing and I got my deck for free from a friend. He gave me alot more cards and if you give me advice on what ones I should use that are not in my deck I will take it thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domon Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 Okay this first deck I made is just a casual play deck and I emphasize the word CASUAL PLAY. So I really do not want ratings, just suggestions and fixes. And yes I know some of the major things are missing but there is a simple explination to that, they are all in my other deck. [B][U][COLOR=Red]Tribute Monsters[/U][/B] Mystical Knight Of Jackal Marie The Fallen One Airknight Parshath Dark Triceratops [B][U]Low Level Monsters[/U][/B] Fire Princess Cyber Jar Injection Fairy Lily Kaiser Sea Horse Witch Of The Black Forest Skilled Dark Magician Twin-Headed Behemoth Dancing Fairy Cannon Soldier x2 Des Koala Sangan Sinister Serpent Nimble Momonga x3 Skull-Marked Ladybug [B][U]Magic Cards[/U][/B] Premature Burial Graceful Charity Token Thanksgiving Dian Keto The Cure Master Dark Hole Monster Reborn Snatch Steal Giant Trunade Confiscation Scapegoat Pot Of Greed Axe Of Despair Mage Power Swords Of Revealing Light Heavy Storm Change Of Heart [B][U]Trap Cards[/U][/B] Solemn Wishes Gravity Bind Waboku x3 Mirror Force [B][U]Side Deck[/U][/B] Solemn Wishes x2 Gravity Bind Freed The Brave Wanderer Magic Jammer x2 Light Of Intervention Negate Attack Ceasfire Magic Drain The Forceful Sentry Dian Keto The Cure Master Multiplication Of Ants x2 Wave Motion Cannon[/COLOR] That was an attempt at a Life Point gainer for me and burner for you kind of deck. I would just like suggestions and not ratings for that deck. The next deck I have is a Fiend deck, and is my competitive one. [B][U][COLOR=DarkRed]Tribute Monsters[/U][/B] Dark Necrofear Vampire Lord Dark Ruler Ha Des Jinzo [B][U]Low Level Monsters[/U][/B] Sangan Slate Warrior Yata-Garasu Tribe-Infecting Virus D.D. Warrior Lady Archfiend Soldier Witch Of The Black Forest Sinister Serpent Kuriboh x3 Cyber Jar Pyramid Turtle Giant Orc x2 [B][U]Ritual Monsters[/U][/B] Dark Master-Zorc [B][U]Magic Cards[/U][/B] Harpie's Feather Duster Premature Burial Mystical Space Typhoon x3 Graceful Charity United We Stand Monster Reborn Pot Of Greed Painful Choice Change Of Heart Dark Hole Delinquent Duo Heavy Storm Contract With The Dark Master Raigeki [B][U]Trap Cards[/U][/B] Call Of The Haunted Imperial Order Mirror Force Magic Cylinder Ring Of Destruction [B][U]Side Deck[/U][/B] Dark Magician Of Chaos Gemini Elf Mad Dog Of Darkness Breaker The Magical Warrior Terrorking Archfiend x2 Pandemonium Great Maju Garzett Newdoria Kycoo The Ghost Destroyer Dark Jeroid Giant Orc Dark Ruler Ha Des Dark Necrofear Don Zaloog[/COLOR] Basically with the side-deck I tried to cover several bases of having monster removal, graveyard control, somewhat of a field control, and a hand contol. I have a second Hades and Necrofear in the side deck so that I could quicken the chances of having a field control with Hades and my other fiends, plus with all the darn Injection Fairy Lilies that have been making a comeback I'm glad that if Ha Des is on the field he would negate her effect since she would most likely end up charging at a fiend and if Dark Ruler is on the field, can we say big ouchie for Liliy's controller??? Anywho, I was just wondering if I could get some suggestions on this. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James P. Galvatron Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 Okay Jim you mean to tell us your friend just out of the blue gave you two Dark Magician Girls, 3 Dark Magicians, All of Exodia the Forbidden one, 1 Egyptian God Card, 3 Blue Eyes, Ultimate Blue Eyes nah I don't believe that. Just doesn't add up those are alot of rare cards just to give away they aren't just any kind of cards Ultra Rare some of them even. Here is my new Deck I traded with a friend who got the new Yugi and Kaiba Decks in America and I decided to add more Wabokus and add some cards Dragon said too. My deck is a light to Dark Ratio Deck with Warrior monsters inside to help out. [U]Monsters Level 5+[/U] Summoned Skull Dark Magician Great Maju Garrazet Total:3 [U]Monsters Level 4+[/U] Kaiser Sea Horse Gazelle the King of Mythical Beasts Battle Ox Great Angus Lady Assailant of the Flames Stern Mystic Kojikocy Celtic Guardian Wolf Axeweilder Neo the Magic Swordsman Skilled Dark Magician Old Vindictive Magician Darkfire Soldier#1 Spirit of the Harp The Hunter with 7 Weapons Mystical Elf Swordsman of Landstar Crimson Sentry Hysteric Fairy Amazon Archer Witch of the Black Forest Gearfried the Iron Knight La Jinn the Mystical Genie of the Lamp Cliff the Trap Remover Total:27 [U]Magic and Spell Cards[/U] Last Will Soul Exchange Card Destruction Shield & Sword Fissure Lightning Blade Dark Hole Sogen Poison of the Old Man Sword of Dark Destruction Dian Keto the Cure Master De-Spell Change of Heart Monster Reborn Yami Remove Trap Tribute to the Doomed Mystical Space Typhoon Total:18 [U]Trap Cards[/U] (2x) Waboku Enchanted Javelin Hidden Book of Spell Thunder of Ruler Total:5 Total Cards In Deck:50 [U]Side Deck[/U] Block Attack Rain of Mercy PigeonHoling Books of Spell Rain of Mercy Hintotama Dark Core Sparks Trap Hole Bad Reaction to Simochi Book of Secret Arts Dragon Capture Jar Mass Driver Ante Infinete Dismissal Gather Your Mind Tell Me what Monster Cards you think I do not need and what Trap Cards I already know that you are saying to get rid of the Dark Magician and Summoned Skull, but once I get my Dark Magician of Chaos and Dark Magician Girl then I will get rid of Summoned Skull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ArgolisDragon Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 [QUOTE=Domon]Okay this first deck I made is just a casual play deck and I emphasize the word CASUAL PLAY. So I really do not want ratings, just suggestions and fixes. And yes I know some of the major things are missing but there is a simple explination to that, they are all in my other deck. [B][U][COLOR=Red]Tribute Monsters[/U][/B] Mystical Knight Of Jackal Marie The Fallen One Airknight Parshath Dark Triceratops [B][U]Low Level Monsters[/U][/B] Fire Princess Cyber Jar Injection Fairy Lily Kaiser Sea Horse Witch Of The Black Forest Skilled Dark Magician Twin-Headed Behemoth Dancing Fairy Cannon Soldier x2 Des Koala Sangan Sinister Serpent Nimble Momonga x3 Skull-Marked Ladybug [B][U]Magic Cards[/U][/B] Premature Burial Graceful Charity Token Thanksgiving Dian Keto The Cure Master Dark Hole Monster Reborn Snatch Steal Giant Trunade Confiscation Scapegoat Pot Of Greed Axe Of Despair Mage Power Swords Of Revealing Light Heavy Storm Change Of Heart [B][U]Trap Cards[/U][/B] Solemn Wishes Gravity Bind Waboku x3 Mirror Force [B][U]Side Deck[/U][/B] Solemn Wishes x2 Gravity Bind Freed The Brave Wanderer Magic Jammer x2 Light Of Intervention Negate Attack Ceasfire Magic Drain The Forceful Sentry Dian Keto The Cure Master Multiplication Of Ants x2 Wave Motion Cannon[/COLOR] That was an attempt at a Life Point gainer for me and burner for you kind of deck. I would just like suggestions and not ratings for that deck. The next deck I have is a Fiend deck, and is my competitive one. [B][U][COLOR=DarkRed]Tribute Monsters[/U][/B] Dark Necrofear Vampire Lord Dark Ruler Ha Des Jinzo [B][U]Low Level Monsters[/U][/B] Sangan Slate Warrior Yata-Garasu Tribe-Infecting Virus D.D. Warrior Lady Archfiend Soldier Witch Of The Black Forest Sinister Serpent Kuriboh x3 Cyber Jar Pyramid Turtle Giant Orc x2 [B][U]Ritual Monsters[/U][/B] Dark Master-Zorc [B][U]Magic Cards[/U][/B] Harpie's Feather Duster Premature Burial Mystical Space Typhoon x3 Graceful Charity United We Stand Monster Reborn Pot Of Greed Painful Choice Change Of Heart Dark Hole Delinquent Duo Heavy Storm Contract With The Dark Master Raigeki [B][U]Trap Cards[/U][/B] Call Of The Haunted Imperial Order Mirror Force Magic Cylinder Ring Of Destruction [B][U]Side Deck[/U][/B] Dark Magician Of Chaos Gemini Elf Mad Dog Of Darkness Breaker The Magical Warrior Terrorking Archfiend x2 Pandemonium Great Maju Garzett Newdoria Kycoo The Ghost Destroyer Dark Jeroid Giant Orc Dark Ruler Ha Des Dark Necrofear Don Zaloog[/COLOR] Basically with the side-deck I tried to cover several bases of having monster removal, graveyard control, somewhat of a field control, and a hand contol. I have a second Hades and Necrofear in the side deck so that I could quicken the chances of having a field control with Hades and my other fiends, plus with all the darn Injection Fairy Lilies that have been making a comeback I'm glad that if Ha Des is on the field he would negate her effect since she would most likely end up charging at a fiend and if Dark Ruler is on the field, can we say big ouchie for Liliy's controller??? Anywho, I was just wondering if I could get some suggestions on this. Thanks[/QUOTE] Uh no, he does not negate her effect because Hades negates effects of monsters he DESTROYS in battle. Lily's effect resignates in the battle phase before she is destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domon Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 [quote name='ArgolisDragon']Uh no, he does not negate her effect because Hades negates effects of monsters he DESTROYS in battle. Lily's effect resignates in the battle phase before she is destroyed.[/quote] [COLOR=Navy]Oops, my bad. ^__^;;; I guess I misinterpreted the effect. See I know that if it destroyed a Witch Of The Black forest its effect would be null and void so I thought that if he attacked/battled an Injection Fairy Lily her effect wouldn't work. I guess I just goofed up on that interpretation.[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James P. Galvatron Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Okay Jim you mean to tell us your friend just out of the blue gave you two Dark Magician Girls, 3 Dark Magicians, All of Exodia the Forbidden one, 1 Egyptian God Card, 3 Blue Eyes, Ultimate Blue Eyes nah I don't believe that. Just doesn't add up those are alot of rare cards just to give away they aren't just any kind of cards Ultra Rare some of them even. Here is my new Deck I traded with a friend who got the new Yugi and Kaiba Decks in America and I decided to add more Wabokus and add some cards Dragon said too. My deck is a light to Dark Ratio Deck with Warrior monsters inside to help out. Monsters Level 5+ Summoned Skull Dark Magician Great Maju Garrazet Total:3 Monsters Level 4+ Kaiser Sea Horse Gazelle the King of Mythical Beasts Battle Ox Great Angus Lady Assailant of the Flames Stern Mystic Kojikocy Celtic Guardian Wolf Axeweilder Neo the Magic Swordsman Skilled Dark Magician Old Vindictive Magician Darkfire Soldier#1 Spirit of the Harp The Hunter with 7 Weapons Mystical Elf Swordsman of Landstar Crimson Sentry Hysteric Fairy Amazon Archer Witch of the Black Forest Gearfried the Iron Knight La Jinn the Mystical Genie of the Lamp Cliff the Trap Remover Total:27 Magic and Spell Cards Last Will Soul Exchange Card Destruction Shield & Sword Fissure Lightning Blade Dark Hole Sogen Poison of the Old Man Sword of Dark Destruction Dian Keto the Cure Master De-Spell Change of Heart Monster Reborn Yami Remove Trap Tribute to the Doomed Mystical Space Typhoon Total:18 Trap Cards (2x) Waboku Enchanted Javelin Hidden Book of Spell Thunder of Ruler Total:5 Total Cards In Deck:50 Side Deck Block Attack Rain of Mercy PigeonHoling Books of Spell Rain of Mercy Hintotama Dark Core Sparks Trap Hole Bad Reaction to Simochi Book of Secret Arts Dragon Capture Jar Mass Driver Ante Infinete Dismissal Gather Your Mind Tell Me what Monster Cards you think I do not need and what Trap Cards I already know that you are saying to get rid of the Dark Magician and Summoned Skull, but once I get my Dark Magician of Chaos and Dark Magician Girl then I will get rid of Summoned Skull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayokano Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 [size=1]Domon, for your casual deck, why do you have Gravity Bind? Other then that and the lack of staples, I say it is a good deck. For your competitive deck, I think you should take out Dark Necorfear because I think she would be a pain to get out, and add a high attack 4 star monster for attack or a staple effect moster. This is also a good deck. Inuyasha7271 you should take out weak 4 or lower star monsters or ones with not-so-helpful effects for staple monsters or high attack ones. Take out equip cards such as Sword of Dark Destruction, Yami, Sogon, and Lightning Blade and add ones that can be equipped to any kind of monster. Add in some staple magic and traps, and eithier drop Kaiser Sea Horse or drop Great Maju Garrazet and add a high level light monster if you don't drop Kaiser. You lack staples, so make sure to add them. Here is a Dinosaur deck I plan on making when the new set comes out, and if they don't follow the new Japanese rules. Also, when the new set comes out, we will be caught up with the Japanese game, right? [u]Dark Dinosaur Trample[/u] [u]5+ Monsters[/u] Dark Tyrano x1 Dark Drikeratops x1 [u]4- Monsters[/u] Gagagigo x2 Death Gremlin x2 Guranadora x1 Hyper Hammer-Head x2 Fleet-Footed Gilazaurus x2 Tribe-Infecting Virus x1 Fiber Pod x1 Black Forest Witch x1 Critter x1 Killer Snake x1 Gaint Germ x3 [u]Magic[/u] Fairy Metor Crush x2 Cyclone x3 Earthquake x2 Micro Laser x2 Axe of Gravity - Guraaru x2 Super Evolution Medicine x2 Demon Axe x2 Thunderbolt x1 Pot of Greed x1 Angel?s Gift x1 Harpy?s Feather Sweep x1 Monster Rebon x1 Premature Burial x1 Change of Heart x1 [u]Traps[/u] Imperial Order x1 Call of the Haunted x1 Magical Cylinders x1 Destruction Ring x1 Waboku x1 Mirror Force x1 Total-48(I think o_O;;) Main Combos- Dark Tyrano+Earthquake= Direct Damage Dark Drikeratops+Earthquake= Battle Damage Dark Tyrano+Earthquake+Axe of Gravity - Guraaru= 3100 Direct Damage, maybe for other turns too. If I can use this combo for the first turn, I could win in two more. Dark Drikeratops+Earthquake+Mirco Laser= 2400 Battle Damage. I hope I can get some help for my future deck.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 This is a casual Deck that has been working well for me thus far. I'd say that it's a pretty standard Beatdown. [B]Tribute Monsters:[/B] Buster Blader Airknight Parshath Great Maju Garzett [B]Non-Tribute Monsters:[/B] Zolga Don Zaloog La Jinn the Mystical Genie of the Lamp Skilled White Magician Harpie's Brother Slate Warrior Witch of the Black Forest Cobra Jar Second Goblin Giant Orc Giant Orc Giant Orc Goblin Attack Force Exiled Force Man-Eater Bug Skilled Dark Magician Cliff the Trap Remover Sangan [B]Spell Cards:[/B] Monster Reborn Giant Trunade Fissure Dark Hole Change of Heart Harpie's Feather Duster Nobleman of Crossout Pot of Greed Banner of Courage Ekibyo Drakmord Mystical Space Typhoon [B]Traps:[/B] Trap Hole Trap Hole Trap Hole Ceasefire Shadow of Eyes GraveRobber Barrel Behind the Door Waboku Nightmare Wheel Sakuretsu Armor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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