Sad isn't it?

[liamc2]

Well this morning I did the clothing shop for, well, clothes with my family.

(You know, the suburbian pagan ritual which involves various rites and devotions to the gods of brand name marketing.)

So while in the jungles of formal black long pants searching, something catches my eye. Over in the pink wastelands inhabited by the tormenting toddlers of the female variety, lies...brace yourself children...

[b][size=3]A PADDED LINGERIE BRA????[/size][/b]

.....might I also add that the resident toddler of the female variety was showing it off to her mother who, in turn, picked it up and said

'Awww, how cute, your very first bra'

And people wonder why the world is filled with paedophiles?

Very first bra, as in the black lace variety, padded so that the child looks like it has bigger breasts than some 15 year olds I know, and it seems I'm the only guy on the planet that finds this disturbing

There's my opinion, take it as you like, grain of salt if you will, and give me your thoughts on the situation.

[Manic Webb]

Maybe it's just your spin on the subject, or maybe I honestly think there is something wrong with the world. Unless this girl was developing breasts at a young age (although it still wouldn't explain the padding) or is just short for her age, she shouldn't be wearing a bra. Of course I have no experience raising young girls (or any children for that matter) so what do I know? All I have is my opinion.

[RicoTranzrig]

That's very odd...bras don't really serve a purpose until the teenage years when the development of the body begins to kick in. Toddlers don't need to assert themselves in that way...

[Semjaza]

Are you sure it just wasn't some bra the kid found in the wrong section? lol

[Guest cloricus]

Lol...

I have to agree with liam...

I think some of you have missed the topic...

And my reaction is *Shudder*...

-Lord Epssy

[Alley Catt]

One question, why were you paying such close attention to the lingerie section?

[Phantom]

Because he is a guy, you should know that *smacks you lightly* ^.^'

Anyway I totaly agree with you Liam...the stuff that goes on with young girls is utterly disgusting. But its not the reason we got child rapists and molesting pricks. They do that job on their own. But obviously dont need help when choosing their next victim.

Anyway....I dont pay attention to little girls trying to look all old and hot...thats what I have my gf for...shes old enough :)...uh.. *shuts up* ..anyway, yea, I think parents should care abit more bout what their young daughters wear...I'm set, my wife-to-be is all 100% with me bout letting our girl be normal..and show her 'sexuality' side at the appropriate time...not when she is 8-12 :)

[Solo Tremaine]

But, it would be a contributing factor to it, and also to the fact that underage pregnancies are too common. In the news recently there was a story about a girl of twelve being pregnant. Twelve! It's disgusting. They're not physically or emotionally ready to handle it. This seems off-topic, but it links in to what I have to say next.

I see all these adverts for toys for children aged about 8-11, and I see them splashing on make-up and trying to look fashionable. Society's stereotypes are being pushed on them at a younger age and it's not right. Really, you shouldn't even be thinking about having sex until you're at least sixteen. There's a reason for a minimum age limit. I don't think wearing bras when you're a bit younger is so bad, but not padded lingerie.

I could go on about absolutely everything I feel about this, but I won't, as it's long and it'd end up being irrelevant anyway.

[Rain]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Solo Tremaine[/i]
[b]I see all these adverts for toys for children aged about 8-11, and I see them splashing on make-up and trying to look fashionable. Society's stereotypes are being pushed on them at a younger age and it's not right.[/b][/QUOTE]

[color=blue]I definetely agree with you there. The worst is Barbie...she's aimed at the 4-8yrs age group and she's, well...you all know what I'm talking about, lol. But, what kind of example is that setting for a five year old? no wonder so many young girls have eating disorders and the such.

But, I don't see why even 11 year olds have to wear bras, unless they develop very early...and especially not padded bras. And these are the parents that wonder where they went wrong when their daughter ends up pregnant at 14...[/color]

[wrist cutter]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rain [/i]
[B]But, I don't see why even 11 year olds have to wear bras[/B][/QUOTE]

Aren't you in middle school by then? Then it makes perfect sense... if you're in middle school, you have gym... if you have gym, you dress down. Girls would hopefully be wearing something.

[MarkM]

Well ummmm.....what did you want the mom to do??? say no flattie or sumthing. I think not,its just part of life, your reactoion will be the same with you kid somday.

[Manic Webb]

I wouldn't say "No, Flattie!" to my daughter, but I'd probably tell her she's too young to wear one and if she wants to know why, she can ask her mother about it (or I'd tell her about it later). There's no way I'm letting my undeveloped daughter wear a piece of padded lingerie on a surface just as flat as her back just because it looks kool or it's all the trend.

This is exactly why I'm never having children: raising daughters.

[Sara]

[size=1][font=verdana]We're not all that bad, Endy. ;P

[....Endy? o0;]

Yes, I find it rather disturbing. Frankly, I find black lace disturbing in nearly any sitution.[/size][/font]

[Manic Webb]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sara [/i]
[B][size=1][font=verdana]We're not all that bad, Endy. ;P

[....Endy? o0;]

Yes, I find it rather disturbing. Frankly, I find black lace disturbing in nearly any sitution.[/size][/font] [/B][/QUOTE]

That's my name. Just don't call me "Endo." :)

Mostly, I have a fear that if I had a daughter, she'd turn into one of those headcases from Jenny Jones and Maury who sell themselves on the street and call out some random guy who they think is the father of her child.

[Lady Asphyxia]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Solo Tremaine [/i]
[B] Twelve! It's disgusting. They're not physically or emotionally ready to handle it. This seems off-topic, but it links in to what I have to say next.[/B][/QUOTE]

[color=darkred]Well, actually, [i]physically[/i] they are. If they're having children, they must obviously be ready [i]physically[/i], if not emotionally.

As for toddler, which is what I think Liam said, whoa! That's in the way of insane. But it does happen. Not to the 'PADDED LINGERIE' extent that you talk of, but I know girls at 6 who wear crop tops and stuff...[/color]

[liamc2]

Yes, it was a toddler, the proportions were to the letter. To short for a growth deficient adult, not to mention too skinny.

So I would say my previous statement has been ascertained.

Besides, we are not debating the strength of my eyesight are we? ;)

~~~~~~

I do understand that the development age of girls is much earlier than guys. This is evident when you visit the senior classes of a Primary School (my little bro is in grade 6).

Don't try getting me on that.

~~~~~~

It's nice to see that I'm not the only one with this opinion,

[b]for once[/b]

[Guest Matt]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Endymion [/i]
[B]Mostly, I have a fear that if I had a daughter, she'd turn into one of those headcases from Jenny Jones and Maury who sell themselves on the street and call out some random guy who they think is the father of her child. [/B][/QUOTE]

[color=red][b]LOL. That's great. "You da fadda of my baby!" "No way ho!" lol....

I agree with liam too. If girls that young want to wear a bra, get them a sports bra or something. Something that does not give them the illusion of having breats.[/b][/color]

[Rain]

[color=blue]When my cousin was about 8, she put on one of her mum's bras and stuffed it with socks. As funny as that sounds (and it was pretty funny when I heard about it), it scared me, because it makes me wonder what she'll be like when she's 15:nervous:[/color]

[::Ex-Soldier::]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rain [/i]
[B][color=blue]When my cousin was about 8, she put on one of her mum's bras and stuffed it with socks. As funny as that sounds (and it was pretty funny when I heard about it), it scared me, because it makes me wonder what she'll be like when she's 15:nervous:[/color] [/B][/QUOTE]


Yeah actually, that sounds really funny, but at the same time disturbing. o_O;

[RoseofDawn]

most of the time it is just kids play, and i am quite sure that that bra was not intended for that kid. Maybe some 15 year old was depressed and/or wanted a boyfriend really bad?(though i hope most boyfriends dont look for that)

[Sere Tuscumbia]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rain [/i]
[B][color=blue]When my cousin was about 8, she put on one of her mum's bras and stuffed it with socks. As funny as that sounds (and it was pretty funny when I heard about it), it scared me, because it makes me wonder what she'll be like when she's 15[/color] [/B][/QUOTE]

Now THAT is . . . disturbing. REALLY disturbing.

And yes, a toddler wearing a lingerie bra is enough to put any sane person in the insane asylum, but--

I'd have to blame it on natural human curiosity. Most little children (speaking from experience here) need a role model. Mommy and/or Daddy's the closest person available, so they latch on. Whatever Mommy and/or Daddy does, they do. (Went after Daddy. And people wonder why I had to have the tips of my thumb and index finger sewn back on . . . (Daddy sharpened knives and cut paper with them. Think wad of newspaper and forgotten onion knife in a three year old's hands.)) What Mommy does, the child does (even though the thought of a padded lingerie bra is extremely disturbing).

Simple human curiosity. This is an iffy situation, mind you. I'm just talking from what I thought of as a toddler (don't know 'bout you, but three counts as a toddler for me) and based my opinion on what I did. For all I know, this child knew what the bra was, and knew some other disturbing things that I'm not going to bring up. [B]God[/B], that's disturbing.

And now I'll leave my mindless ranting to close off here.

--Sere

[Solo Tremaine]

That's true- when you're that age you aren't actually thinking of sex at all, I don't think. So when you try on your mum's bra it's meant out of pure innocence- like Sere said, the mother wears it, thus the child copies. But I guess it can also be one of the dangers, because they don't understand how serious it can be trying to make themselves up and whatever. I doubt even at ten they'd be thinking about sex, and if they truss themselves up to go to a school disco in hot pants or whatever it's endangering them to things they never wanted. I'm not sure I've phrased that correctly, but hey.

And going back to Lady A's point- most children pregnant at that age have to have Ceasearians (sp?), which causes no end of trouble if you're still growing. It can tear, stretch, scar and it leaves you in physical pain for a very long time afterwards. If it happens at that crucial age when she's just finishing growth the pain might never go away.