democrat or republican?

[James]

[color=#507AAC]What you're really talking about here though is the topic of abortion. Admittedly it has been mentioned and partly discussed...and it does somewhat relate to politics.

But the current abortion laws are unlikely to be changed. I'm not here to convince anyone to change their view, I'm just saying that for the laws to be changed, we would have to accept a different Government role.

Yes, our basic laws are based on religious morals. Of course they are. Murder, rape, etc...

I'm not talking about any of that though. Nor am I talking about abortion. I'm talking about civil rights legislation (of which abortion is not included at the moment because abortion IS legal...and that decision is not likely to be overturned, so we're not stifling something that already exists if you get my meaning).

Whilst I do agree that there are some major problems in society (teen pregnancy being a major one), I do not accept the argument that society is going to hell in a hand basket. The religious right frequently uses this so-called argument to propel biggotry and religious fundamentalism. It's a scare tactic.

Ultimately, I think we are really essentially agreeing here. The question of abortion is one that I don't want to discuss anymore deeply myself because in past threads I've already explained my view multiple times.

And in this thread, I've provided a basic position on the subject. I'd really rather not go into anymore detail, because ultimately that [i]would[/i] be very off topic.

We're discussing the differences between Democrats and Republicans, remember. [/color]

[Kent]

True that, I can hear you and I think your right about some.

I do think that we agree. (I would like to think its because we are both intelligent)

But I do wanna mention a point I made before, the religous RIGHT and fundamentalist are the topic of your discussion concerning the civil rights legislation that is unfair.

I dont think it is really fair to judge republicans by that standard, it would be the same a judging islam by the standard of wahabist. (thats not a good thing is it.)

And its also important to recognize that many of the current far left civil rights activist are making mountains out of things that are not even mole hills. I mean in this that much of the civil rights activism present today isnt even based on current problems and is often based on possible future problems that are always looking for the worst in possible human nature.

I do think that this republican democrate thread is getting a bit old at the moment.

Rather than talking about differences and citing the differences, some of us, (sometimes myself included) are resorting to the good old back and forth baseless insults.

I wouldnt mind seeing some specific issues to discuss.

And I wanna mention civil rights isnt really a good one, because most of the stuff people claim about republicans doesnt have any backing besides stereotypes based on class warfare.

Plus, the fact is that a good person, rep. or demo., always wants people to be happy and treated right. So acting like rep. dont like equality would be silly, you woulnt find a single rep. on the boards that wants in-equality, and if you try and cite people from the government, for each one on the right there is one on the left.

Just to name some names and incidents.

Al Gores father voted against integrating public schools under Eisenhower.

Strum thurman/ thurman strum (I can never remember his name) ran on a third party platform in 1948, it was a segragationist thing.

But Senator Byrd of west virginia also was a segragationist.

I think they are both racist. But more important they are of an age gone by.

Bottom line in my book is that I believe I have said All I can on this subject unless someone can come forth and brings something up that would spark a new conversation.

Sidenote: James you are still my fav. to debate with on the boards.

[James]

[color=#507AAC]Remember gokents, when I mention the religious right I am not referring to Republicans. Some Republicans happen to be a part of this movement, but it would definitely be the minority of them. So please do not misunderstand me on that point.[/color]

[Kent]

Ive got you, I know your a resonable person.

So now its just a matter of another person coming in and throwing a new topic up.

Lets hope that doesnt happen, I dont think I have the energy for that.

[DuoMax]

OOH! the war on Iraq!!! personally i think it really SUCKS!!!

btw, i happen to be a Socilast.

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