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Ok....imagine your life is like mine.....my dad says that if I do not make straight A's at the end of this next report card (this semester) then he'll ground me from TV to friends(he means EVERYTHING). How does that sound????
Ok, we just took a test in Algebra and I basically flunked it (I was tired that morning though...) and now my average went from a B to an F. Math is my most important subject to my dad so he thinks I'm supposed to be some Genius when it comes to Math. I just got my progress report today for all of my classes and everything is OK except for MATH!!!! I feel like crying or just killing myself or something. Math is really hard for a bunch of people in my class now and we're all kind of having problems but I SHOULDN'T!!! I usually do make good grades but this crap we're learning now is really hard!!

Language Arts-92 Pre-AP
US History-92 Pre-AP
Science-85 Pre-AP
Math(Algebra)-67 Pre-AP
Band (who cares)-69
Choir (who cares again)-76
Exploring Languages-99 (my favorite class...)

Isn't that just wonderful??? How am I going to EVER get my grades back up!!!!!!!!!!! HELP!!! We're about to have our exams the week after next...and next week in Algebra we're having a test over 2 FULL chapters!!!!!!!!!!!!
Someone PLEASE HELP ME!!!!
I feel so depressed...:(

OK... just one thing. A lot of you are saying stuff about Choir and Band....well, the only reason I'm failing them is beacuse I can't go to their damn after school rehersals!!! But my dad is talking to them to straighten things out. I can't go to the rehersals since I don't have anyone to take me (my parents work pretty late) and I just don't have the time. Can you beleive they use REHERSALS as MAJOR GRADES!! And not chair tests or participation?!? So it isn't effort or skill or talent.....it's who's parents are off of work so they can take them to their stupid rehersals that are worth nothing since all they do is listen to the teachers talk in their office....
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Well, all I can say is taht you had better pick up the slack. There is no secret to improving your grades(especially in subjects like algebra) except to study harder.

And killing yourself over getting put on restriction is just plain foolish. However, I can understand your dread of having a 'heart to heart' with good ole' daddy.

-Justin
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[FONT=arial]how do you make 60's and 70's in stuff like band and choir? usually they're mostly just participation grades, at least at just about every school I've heard of. if that's the case for you, I don't feel too sorry for you. but if you seriously tried to make good grades and weren't just slacking off, try explaining that to your dad (but only if you really put forth the extra effort; chances are if you lie and he finds out, you're gonna dig yourself an even deeper hole.) maybe your dad would be more lenient with your grounding.[/FONT]
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I'm guessing you have two approaches here: bringing up your grades or attempting leniency on the grounding. For the former, I could reccomend a few things. My science class is a notes class where we rarely use the book - but if it is read carefully, it will help one to understand the topic further. Math - for me, learning the methods doesn't help at all; I need to work out the methods myself and understand it intuitively, whereupon I can use them effectively. If for either of these classes you're memorizing and cramming factoids and not understanding principles, you will not be able to remember the information for long periods of time. If you're "having a test over 2 FULL CHAPTERS!!!" you [i]can't[/i] memorize/cram and do it effectively.

Re. band and chorus, they shouldn't/can't penalize you for lack of talent (not saying you do lack it but if you were to); the grades should be on effort and dedication. Just look like you're working hard, and make an effort to do well; this will probably help your grades. "who cares" in band and chorus affects your grades more directly than actual performance.

If you want leniency, show that you are trying hard to bring up the grades, so that you will have worked your hardest. Explain to your dad that it is more important that you try your hardest than to pass the tests, which may be incredibly easy or hard.

These are all just my opinions, though...other people may have better ideas, but I think these should be effective.
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Gosh maths is so simple if you learn and understand the basic concepts and formulae. All you need to do is stop stressing and start to study the examples that are shown in your text book and practice some of the questions. I'm sure your teacher will be more than happy to help you out if you don't understand anything. Don't worry so much. Math isn't as complex as it looks.
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[color=deeppink] [size=1]I know how you feel, my dad's the exact same way with my grades. I was grounded for a week last trimester, because I made a 3.4 on my GPA. He said a B wasn't good enough to get me to Lowell'... blah blah... I was really upset, because he would just stress me about making better grades. He kept comparing my grades now, to my grades in Texas. He keeps saying, "You made straight A's then, why can't you do it anymore?" As soon as he left, the only thing I could think about was how much I wanted to move back to Texas, where at least one of my parents would be a little more encouraging. I decided to stay, but my dad seemed to have lost a little more confidence in me, just because I made three B's. I kept telling him, a B isn't that badova grade. He still said he understood, even though it was obvious he didn't.

My friend's going through the same problem as I am, and her mom is stressing her into getting into a Lowell High... etc. She and I both went up four points in our GPA, but both of our parents aren't home yet...

We're basically going through the same thing here... except I think three B's kinda gave me a little different perspective of my dad...[/color] [/size]
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Hm... Math is my hardest subject... sorta. I failed math in the 9th grade and had to take the class over again. In 10th grade, I took the class over and got an A without trying, then I got a B+ in my 11th grade math class... but then I failed my 12th grade math class. It's my achilles heel. I either breeze through it or fail trying.

All I can suggest about Math is to study a lot more. It'll help. Plus you gotta lay off of the Inuyasha for a while. Exchange the time you take to buy/watch Inuyasha and study your mathematics.

Band and Choir are [i]all effort[/i] classes. Like MathGuy2 said, they can't lower your grades for a lack of talent. My cousin couldn't carry a note (okay, she could probably carry one) but she passed her Choir class easily. Show up, do what you're supposed to do, and (depending on your teacher) kissing up actually works in effort/participation classes.
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Just do what you are told man. You're most likely missing out on easy grades because your friends and/or other factors my distract you as well which probablily explains why your Old man is taking crazy measures. Wheter you like the course or not, its like what my old high school teachers said. "Think of school as a job, not a place to be with your friends." You won't believe how much of boost this can do for someone. You may not be gifted in the class but you'll still get a great grade if you show the work. Heck I did so when I was in HS and my term averages never got less than 90% In the meantime, pray that your old man doesn't flip. o_O
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I hate parents who expect their kids to get straight A's. they are STUPID to think that any kid could get perfect grades all the time. I mean, ask your dad what he got when he was in high school. I bet it wasn't straight A's. Thats when they shut up.

My dad used to expect that from us... "A B!?" he'd say... yeah... a b... which is ABOVE AVERAGE.... so BE HAPPY and then he's shut up because he KNOWS that I'll whip out his old report cards... the ones with the F's and the D's and the "He did nothing this semester" written on it.

You have to have leverage on your parents in all ways. Thats the trick to it all. Plus I mean, you're taking AP or pre AP, whatever the hell that means, classes... which I assume are much harder. When I took AP classes, I wasn't expected to get an A and I didn't. A C in AP classes is equivalent to an A in a regular class. be smart.... know your facts and then tell your parents. Grounding doesn't do anything either. It won't make your grades go up and it won't change anything. No offense, but your dad needs a CLASS in parenting... see what grade he gets in that... I bet it's not an A....
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i]
[B]I hate parents who expect their kids to get straight A's. they are STUPID to think that any kid could get perfect grades all the time. I mean, ask your dad what he got when he was in high school. I bet it wasn't straight A's. Thats when they shut up.
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[FONT=arial]heh, it'd be bad if he did get straight A's though.

I think punishing kids for not making good grades is okay, in some circumstances. like if the kid's slacking off and not doing homework/turning papers in. then it's okay. some kids need the extra motivation. but if the kid got bad grades because (s)he didn't understand the work, that's different. some stuff just doesn't click with some people. punishing them isn't going to make them learn anything. and if they stuck to the punishment plan, chances are (s)he'd [i]never[/i] be off grounding.[/FONT]
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I think punishing kids for BAD grades is good, but to punish kids for not getting straight A's (which by the way is perfect and noone will remain perfect) is absolutely stupid.

If her father got straight A's in HS, I'd be surprised. Usually SMART people would be able to figure out how hard it was for them or how hard it may be for their offspring. Then again... but notalot of people go through HS with Straight A's..
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I agree with Transtic Nerve. Your father sounds really overbearing and it seems to me that the intense pressure he is placing on you is saddling you, rather than motivating you.

The real problem here isn't discovering a magical means to pull your grades up to an "A." Admittedly, you should ask your math teacher for extra attention to pull your spiraling average up. But, I suggest having a talk with your father.

Explain to him how hard you're pushing in your studies, and how his overzealous expectations are burning you out. You don't have to be perfect to be a good student. The key to succeeding in your studies is [I]thinking.[/I] After you're done taking notes, find a quiet spot and rewrite them, and think about what you're writing. That's how you hammer them into your head. Just try to think about the material and how it relates to the course for ten minutes.

I would rather pull out a hard "C" than an easy "A." Your father should realize that if you work hard on the material and gain something from it, you're getting a greater reward than an alphabetical character. Perhaps if he sees the effort you're putting forth, he'll stop hindering you with these silly expectations. Show him the notes. Correct your "F" test and [I]show[/I] him that you know where you went wrong.

In the end though, you're your own person, and it's impossible for you to be exactly what he wants you to be. You've got to be who you want to be.
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Ah. I've been in your shoes before.....sort of.

My dads is very hard to get along with. If something I do is wrong, something he never warned me about, he will go to all extreme to stop it, sometimes without even letting me know. For example I never studied, and flunked my last year exams:

Me: Dad I'm going to the shop
Dad: No you're not you're grounded!!
Me: .....I am?
Dad: Yes you are! Now sit down and don't talk!
Me: .....:twitch: What for?
Dad: .....****** grades in school! Now shut up!!

.....ugh how I hate it.

My best advice. Just study as much as you want to. If you think you've studied enough, chances are you haven't. Keep studying 'till you cover the whole topic. There's not much else you can do to get anything better. Just study. ;)
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Guest Hikaru Ichijyo
:) Well I'm sorry that your dad is being a bit too strict on you though those 69's would worry almost any parent. Really the only thing you can do is study your butt off for the next two weeks and earn the grades, if your having trouble in math....have someone tutor you and pay attention.

At least if you do that and fail you know you tried your best and that's all that really matters, if it's not good enough for you dad, then just take the grounding like an adult and study harder to improve and it will be lifted.

So in all reality your only option is well to study. ;)
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How can Math be your best subject if you failed the test? That just tells me that it was YOUR fault that you didn't study enough ._.
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Hah. You and me too. I got nothing but 60's and 70's and I did have a nice little chat with my dad and mom. I wish I could change it, but I can't. Even iif you do have a talk with your parents, it just flies over, and then you can improve.

But then there comes parent/teacher conferences. I have 1 week to live. Really.
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[b]I was a grade U (completely ungraded test, pretty much 0) in maths, until I finally got my backside in gear and started practicing algebra and so forth, and now I'm a C/B, which is good by my standards.

You're obviously out of practice in maths, just keep practicing the hard stuff over and over again.

As for overbearing parents.. I think it is silly that parents expect children to get [i]perfect[/i] grades all the time, but at the same time the parent may just be trying to push you, since they know what you can achieve. My mother did that to me, and even though it brought up endless arguments and fights between me and her I've ended up with good grades :)[/b]
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I don't disagree with punishing your kids for poor grades. If I made an 'F' in anything, I'd expect my dad to punish me and I'd accept, and I'll do the same for my child(unless there is something wrong with him mentally). That's not wrong, that's love. That's wanting your child to do better for his life.

My dad has hounded me constantly, ever since k5, about my grades, and I thank him for that.

-Justin
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Jeez, I KNOW I've been in that situation before. 'Cept, it's my mom. My dad doesn't care unless I get a C or something. Oh yeah, and my mom gets mad at me if I get a low A, so I guess you could think about how *cough cough* LUCKY *cough cough* you are...
When I first got obsessed with anime and video games in fifth grade, and grade when down a lot in math. Funny, it was only math, too. All hell broke loose with my mom and she went mental with me for about a year...(my mom is scary when she's mad...really scary) So of course I forced myself to stop worrying about anime things and started to pick up my grades. Now, though, I have to take...*counts on fingers* 10 hours of tutor a week because the I'm taking the SATs in January to see if I can make it into the Duke program.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by amibasuki [/i]
[B][FONT=arial]how do you make 60's and 70's in stuff like band and choir? usually they're mostly just participation grades, at least at just about every school I've heard of. if that's the case for you, I don't feel too sorry for you. but if you seriously tried to make good grades and weren't just slacking off, try explaining that to your dad (but only if you really put forth the extra effort; chances are if you lie and he finds out, you're gonna dig yourself an even deeper hole.) maybe your dad would be more lenient with your grounding.[/FONT] [/B][/QUOTE]
My damn band teachers require us to stay after school sometimes and I can't since I have too much to do and I don't have anyone to pick me up from after school rehersals. So I missed them even after I warned my band teachers and choir teacher. They don't care though. And guess what? Chair tests and things that really do matter are only DAILY GRADES!! The stupid after school rehersals are the major grades!!!!!! But my dad is talking to them so my grade is going up in Choir and Band!!

Oh yeah and by the way Delian, I am good at math, otherwise I wouldn't be in the higher classes so.....you can think on that one. It's just that I've had a lot of things on my mind and I kind of screwed up on that one test like a few other people in my class...but anyway, I just had trouble on one thing that our teacher wasn't there to teach. She was out sick or something and our Sub. wasn't very bright...some people in my class had to stay after school for tutoring to learn the material and some of us didn't (like me) and we didn't learn the material so we flunked. But no matter how hard this class may be hitting me with my grades now, I'm not getting out. I going to bring up my grade. Anyway, the only thing I'm scared of is getting grounded but oh well. I'll just have to face it and get over it.

And you know what else?!? It was only ONE TEST that screwed EVERYTHING up.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Yu Yu Hakusho! [/i]
[B]Ok....imagine your life is like mine.....my dad says that if I do not make straight A's at the end of this next report card (this semester) then he'll ground me from TV to friends(he means EVERYTHING). How does that sound????
Ok, we just took a test in Algebra and I basically flunked it (I was tired that morning though...) and now my average went from a B to an F. Math is my most important subject to my dad so he thinks I'm supposed to be some Genius when it comes to Math. I just got my progress report today for all of my classes and everything is OK except for MATH!!!! I feel like crying or just killing myself or something. Math is really hard for a bunch of people in my class now and we're all kind of having problems but I SHOULDN'T!!! I usually do make good grades but this crap we're learning now is really hard!![QUOTE]

OMG!! I know exactly how you feel!! That is the same situation I am in!! My dad saw mai progress report and screamed his head of until I started crying and stormed off to mai room:bawl:. Don't get me wrong, I study, I just don't unserstand the concepts until we have already taken the tests!! It is soooo aggrivating!! The only thing that is really different is the choir/band thing...I am in orchestra, and our rehearsal are directly after school...u get the picture.
Oh yeah, and like anime_gurl, my dad kills me if I get anything b low an A.
YuYu Hakusho! I get what U mean, b/c if I weren't good @math, I wouldn't b in Algebra either!!

Oh yeah, I like "YuYu Hakusho", "Inuyasha", and "Cowboy Beebop" too!! Do u watch them on Cartoon Networks Adult Swim??
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Well back when my parents were younger it was a diffrent teaching standard for my parents so and now ( depending on the schools) the teaching easier or harder.......even though I'm passing algebra and failing english ( im doing so-so in everthing else.) my parents grounded me why? He had one of those this is the time were your grades count for you to get to a good college and yadda yadda talks and he does for me because unless it's me (most likely) some colleges now and classes are harder to pass unless your a genius which I'm definately not.


So just study untill you know it well enough to do it in your sleep... then pass the exam and hope your dad will put a lighter punishment on you.

*See's hand puppet point a sign at him.:stupid: *
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