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Ben Holiday
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Hmm, I highly doubt that you'll get much of a reply about this game. When we've discussed it in the past, not many people seemed to have played it.

The Suikoden series typically revolves around the theme of war and how it affects both the participants and the innocent. Suikoden III continues the tradition, telling a story of the ongoing hostilities between Grasslanders and the Harmonians. Caught in the middle, are the Zexen Knights, who have hostilities with both peoples, but they inevitably side with the Grasslanders.

Also, the series always has a comprehensive cast--108 playable characters to be exact. They are referred to as the 108 Stars of Destiny. In Suikoden III, these characters are developed slightly better than they were in past games. Their back stories aren't nearly as flat and a good number of them have a moment in the spotlight at some point in the game.

Also, following on the traditional Suikoden model, your forces acquire their own base. As you recruit more and more of the "Stars of Destiny," your castle will grow and improve. The castle isn't as large or intricate as past Suikoden's, but it's still fairly vast, featuring a small chunk of adjoining land.

For the first time in the series, there is not a fixed central character; there are three heroes. Each comes from a different faction in the war and you must play as all three, seeing the quest from their eyes for three or four chapters. The system allows you to achieve a unique perspective from the story. It's very effective.

Additional characters will become available at some point, but they're essentially bonus material. Eventually, you are able to choose which of the primary three characters you would like to have as the main character. This feature is sure to give the replay value a shot in the arm.

The game also features two different battle systems. The first is your typical role-playing game battle system (with a unique pairing twist) and the second is a throwback to strategy-based RPGs, where you control large numbers of characters at once.

I hope that's enough information. ^_^
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The only information you need to know is that Suikoden is a great series, and this is possibly the best RPG on the system.

Outside of Square games, most don't seem to try other random RPGs here heh. The Persona, Dragon Quest, Wild Arms 3 and Valkyrie Profile threads all but disappeared.
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Sounds good, I started playing yesterday and was fairly impressed. I just have to get used to the layout. It definitely had differences from square rpg's but they just make it more interesting. The fixed camera threw me off at first but after a few hours you don't even notice it anymore. Plus attacking in pairs was cool and the graphics are nice. I like the anime sequences at the begining hopefully all the fmv is like that. On Persona I haven't finished it yet but I do plan on getting Wild Arms 3 once I finish this.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Ben Holiday [/i]
[B]Sounds good, I started playing yesterday and was fairly impressed. I just have to get used to the layout. It definitely had differences from square rpg's but they just make it more interesting. The fixed camera threw me off at first but after a few hours you don't even notice it anymore. Plus attacking in pairs was cool and the graphics are nice. I like the anime sequences at the begining hopefully all the fmv is like that. On Persona I haven't finished it yet but I do plan on getting Wild Arms 3 once I finish this. [/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah, the cinematic camera angles really threw me off at first too. I found my fingers on the shoulder buttons trying to adjust it a lot. After a while, it didn't bother me much, because Konami doesn't try to hide items in the background as much as Square does with the Final Fantasy series.

Heh, I'd suggest renting Wild Arms 3 before buying it. Stepping down to that after Suikoden 3 will be like going from a bucket of caviar to a big steaming bucket of crap. I've never eaten caviar or crap, but I'd assume that the former is better than the latter. Wild Arms just screams "typical" and "mediocre." The artistic approach is cool...but that's it. I recently played through the first hour or two of the game and the scripting seems incredibly cheesy as well.
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I finally managed to get a good amount of play in yesterday and most of today. I was very surprised at how good the trinity system is. You'd think it'd be more of a hassle then it's worth but it's actually really cool to go through the different viewpoints of Chris, Hugo and Thomas. I'm saving Geddoe for the final. But I started off with Chris up to Ch.1 then switched off to Hugo till Ch.2 then Thomas up to Ch.1 and then back to Hugo for his final chapter till the choice. I was also surprised at how the same areas you traveled through with one character would spawn different monsters for other characters. At least until their levels were about equal and then youd usually run into about the same types of creatures.

It's alot better then I thought it would be definitely one of the top rpg's for this system. It completely sucked me in once I got going I got a full 25 hours of continous play play between yesterday and today.
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This my favorite game ever. It's great. The characters are great. The battle system is excellent. I love it. The pair aspect of the battle system adds so much more strategy to the game. The storyline is great, too. It's not your typical chosen-one-must-defeat-the-ultimate-evil stuff that we've all seen before. Suikoden isn't really like most rpgs out there. It's pretty different, in my opinion.
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I actually borrowed this game from a friend of mine over the winter break. I love it! It's really long, so it will take awhile to beat, especially if you try to get all of the 108 stars of destiny (like I am). There are a couple of things I don't like (only being able to control three of the six characters in the battle and only being able to play out the last couple of chapters with your flame champion's story). Otherwise, this game is awesome. I'm fighting the last boss (I think)now, so I hope the ending is as good as the game.
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Well I've seen the first two games of this series and they looked pretty good! :) The thing is for some reason Suikoden III hasn't been released in the UK which is rather annoying as it looks and sounds alot better! :mad: Plus that also means I have no knowledge on how to answer the PS2 quiz question lol unless I search around for answer.

Anyway does anyone know whether this will ever come to the UK and if not does anyone know why?
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I just recently played through all 3 Suikodens for the first time, and 2 was probably my favorite. Although 3 had a great storyline...I don't know the team battle system made things a lot harder, you could only heal your buddy for the most part (not counting magic or scrolls), and if you did a combo using up people in multiple teams, everyone else would be defaulted to attack. Speaking of attacks the combos (unites) in part 3 have to be the most awful, especially since 1 and 2 had many useful and cool combos. In 3 only a few were useful (sharon/sanae/emily, cecile/thomas, etc.), and out of the 108 stars you could use, a lot less seemed any fun to play (like the lizard clan people). The support character idea was pretty cool, although in the end almost half of them are just inferior versions of the other half. Still, for some reason I wound up playing Suiky 3 for almost 120 hours, strange, and I'm still not done with the last flame! I forget how to do the spoiler tag so let me just ask, what sort of idiot has an S in Pale Gate Magic, but has a flowing rune permanently stuck to their forehead?!
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Well, well, well my favorite game.

This game you open a book, and in that book there are three files. You choose one of those files and you look at a little cut scene. I started out with Hugo. I think that's who your supposed to start out with.

I've only beat Hugo's thing, but I haven't started on anybody else's. Anywho, I haven't played Suikoden II, or Suikoden I, but I'm sure they are pretty good. SO I don't know about the replay value.

I think you'll enjoy this game.Charles stole all the stuff I could've said. I left for awhile so I'm late to this thread.
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Guest Super Ryaman
well, i think this one is the best in the series. i hated the first one, liked the seconed one, and love the third...(hehehehe)
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Guest Watinabe
I like the way this game looks but I havent played it:( but when I do I'm sure it would be better than the other two but as for Ryaman everyone I am afraid he's a fraud he has never played suikoden 3 and doesn't intend on owning it so I guess that opinon of his would mean nothing...:bawl:hehehe...
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