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why is anime so small in uk? i love anime, the only thing that would be compared to an anime channle is "CNX" which had DBZ (repeated)gundam wing, outlaw srair, cowboy be-bop(sp?) and there not on for most of the day, there is "si-fi" that has movies on at midnight followed by blue gender and a cupple more cartoons from japan, but thats about it, you americans are SOOOO!!!! lucky i would do anything to see a good anime chanle with films on it in daytime not midnight on a school day (i'm only 16)
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Well when you compare how the UK anime situation is today compared to what it was about 3/4 years ago, you'd see that anime is in fact getting more popular in the UK

It seems more and more people are beginning to like anime, if someone told me 3 years ago that we would have a UK anime channel I would have laughed at them, but the situation is getting better

At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if there was another anime channel introduced in a year or so, or maybe Sci-Fi dedicating a few days a week to anime shows

One thing the UK really sucks for though is Gundam, still stuck with Gundam Wing, lol
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I don't think the broadcasting of it is too sparse. Let's see, as far as I know, there's Akira, Nadesico, Evangelion and Blue Gender (on Sci-fi, although NGE and MSN have recently finished), Tenchi, Gundam Wing, DBZ, Outlaw Star and Cowboy Bebop on CNX, Beyblade on CN, Escaflowne, Shinzo, Digimon, Shin Chan *shivers*, Hamtaro on FoxKids, Yu-Gi-Oh and Cardcaptors on Nickelodeon, Yu-Gi-Oh, Zoids, Pokemon and Transformers Armada on SkyOne. I don't see much to complain about there, apart from the lack of Lost Universe. That's 20 animes all together, and I think I've missed some.

The main problem the UK has is with video/DVD release. The only ones I see are Macross Plus, Ninja Scroll, Generator Gawl 1+2, Princess Mononoke, Ghost in the Shell and Urotsukidoji (eep) on DVD, and all those and NGE: Death and Rebirth on video, so even then, it's not that restricted, really. I'd like to see some Eva and Nadesico series DVDs sometime (along with the Nadesico movie), and Lost Universe, please, ADV UK!
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The British TV broadcasters don't think that Anime is popular or inportant in the UK. They're kind of like, "Screw you, we're going to show the news."
My friend is from the UK and she tells me there are mainly news channels...and BBC. Which consists of some really crappy shows, she tells me.
And I know there's no Yu Yu Hakusho and Inuyasha there in the UK.
Man, you guys are missing out.
I don't think it's fair for you guys.
I just don't understand why we can't broadcast stuff from here to the UK. I mean, we all speak English....
It would be a whole lot eaiser if we just sent our Anime and shows over there instead of them having to do all the translations all over again and make it local or whatever there. That sucks.
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Well its kind of a trade off...we have things the brits dont and they have stuff we dont...ofcourse i think you guys dont have much to complain about...Ya have Eva and Blue gender on...Id kill for that :) we get lots of censored to death stuff although the new anime channel i believe is supposed to have eva...i dunno ill believe it when i see it uncensored :devil:

EDIT well your censors must not be so hard on shows having religous undertones like americas cause thats the #1 reason eva hasnt been on TV yet...Cant even have a lousy gundam named God or devil...BAH :rolleyes:
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What we get is exactly the same as the US versions, I believe. I can't think of anything that's been heavily edited, though. Digimon was when it was being shown by CITV, but that's all I can think of offhand. Some of the swearing was bleeped out of Eva. Well, one instance. The only instance I've ever heard. Outlaw Star isn't censored.

We had lue Sub 6 on CNX the other night, too. I don't think we do that badly at all. It's just not advertised very often, so it can be hard to miss. Fire Emblem video/DVD would be great, though...
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Heh your Brits have nothing to complain about. In Australia were getting screwed in the Anime department. All we have for Anime is NGE, Card Captors :nervous:, Pokémon, Bey Bladez, Sailer Mooon :nervous:, DBZ and DB.

That's barely 12. We used to have Gundam Wing on Adult Swim but Cartoon Network thought it was to violent. Were pretty lucky in the VHS+DVD area though. Still getting screwed but...
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Guest Hikaru Ichijyo
Basically it all boils down to this answer, Japanese distributors sell off anime's primary to american companies first. Since the demand for anime in America is more then in other countries and has the better sales turnouts.

Also the UK for most anime movies and japanese monster films (kaiju)have a tendency of re-dubbing them from the american versions. The re-dubbing process can take quite awhile for them to finish, just like it takes the US a million years to bring out a 12 year old db episode and even longer for the UK to do the same.

Another factor is that the UK stations probably don't see a reason to air anime, it's still very underappreciated in america and took pratically 15 years to get as popular as it is here.

In closing if you really want to get an anime, your best bet is to import it from the Hong Kong dvd market which sell region 0 dvds that can be played on all dvd devices my friend.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Solo Tremaine [/i]
[B]. Well, one instance. The only instance I've ever heard. Outlaw Star isn't censored.[/B][/QUOTE]
[color=darkblue]Thats the best thing about our Anime situation over here(England) Outlaw Star and Cowboy Be-bop are Un-Censored, which makes them alot more enjoyable to watch, but it mean theres not played till after 9pm which isnt really a bad thing anyway. [/color]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rick Hunter [/i]
[B]Also the UK for most anime movies and japanese monster films (kaiju)have a tendency of re-dubbing them from the american versions. The re-dubbing process can take quite awhile for them to finish, just like it takes the US a million years to bring out a 12 year old db episode and even longer for the UK to do the same.[/B][/QUOTE]

I don't think I know of any anime movies that have been dubbed by the UK. As far as I know, it doesn't happen. I always thought we got them fresh form the US. But I've not seen that many. I know things like Ghost in the Shell, Blue Sub 6, Princess Mononoke, Macross Plus and various other films aren't redubbed by the UK. The popular, most well known ones aren't altered as far as I see. Which ones are, out of interest, RH? I'm not trying to disprove you or anything, I just didn't know it happened.

[quote][i]Originally posted by Rick Hunter[/i]
[B]Another factor is that the UK stations probably don't see a reason to air anime, it's still very underappreciated in america and took pratically 15 years to get as popular as it is here. [/B][/quote]

That's true. We have a poor market for most, if not all things that aren't mainstream.

About the uncensored-ness: Satellite channels are a lot more free about things like that. The sci-fi channel shows films like 'Earth Girls are easy' during the early afternoon, and that has swearing in it. Although they censored it from Eva, which seems a bit odd, even though it was shown at around the same time in the day. I guess they feel that people can swear in live action films and no-one will think anything of it, but they can't in animation. I guess there's still a slight stereotyping for anime to be considered for children there.
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Well as far as I know, Animes such as E.Y.E.S. of Mars, Lily Cat, and even I'm not mistaken Dragon Ball/Z are redubbed in the UK. I could be wrong about dragon ball but I'm pretty sure about it.

Also all the Godzilla and Gamera films have been redubbed for UK use. I once bought a Gamera Guardian of the Universe import dvd -___- and was greatly disappointed in the fact it was actually a redub based on the US version.
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Every british person bitches about this, but we have it pretty good, outlaw star, cowboy bebop, shinchan, digimon, zoids, blue gender, evangelion, a different anime movie every thursday night, yugioh, nadesico, Gundam Wing, pokemon, dbz, Sailormoon. So if you think about it, we have lots of anime on the TV. Granted it is quite hard to find merchandise but theres always the net and I know of loads of great stores.

So if you miss any of those animes its your fault, because they do show them.
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Guest Hikaru Ichijyo
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Kenji [/i]
[B]Every british person bitches about this, but we have it pretty good, outlaw star, cowboy bebop, shinchan, digimon, zoids, blue gender, evangelion, a different anime movie every thursday night, yugioh, nadesico, Gundam Wing, pokemon, dbz, Sailormoon. So if you think about it, we have lots of anime on the TV. Granted it is quite hard to find merchandise but theres always the net and I know of loads of great stores.

So if you miss any of those animes its your fault, because they do show them. [/B][/QUOTE]


I wouldn't say that's pretty good for the average british fan being the fact that those anime's have been done to death and basically are mainstream in every country not to meantion anywhere between 4-14 years old in Japan. I believe the person was complaining about there not being enough "less mainstream" anime aired in UK.
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[color=#507AAC]I can't speak for the UK obviously, but the situation in Australia is kind of odd.

On TV, it's the same old story. Sailor Moon/BeyBlade/Dragonball...the usual suspects. Those are the anime that, in this country at least, tend to be popular with the 12-14 year old audience.

However, sometimes I am surprised by the anime that I find in places such as Target or HMV. HMV in particular has had movies that I've not even found in my local video rental store (which tends to have a reasonably good selection). It's almost like there are two "anime worlds" here. The TV-based anime (and fans of that tend not to watch anything that isn't on TV) and the non-TV anime (fans of that don't tend to watch any of the TV-based anime and stick only to the stuff they find in the music stores and such).

It's weird. It's not just "non-anime" and "anime". It's like two seperate major groups within anime. lol

Although I must admit, I've seen a lot of DB/DBZ fans who barely watch any other type of anime. So I suppose that unless there is a significant "culture" of anime in a country (whether it be the UK or Australia), you'll still be in a situation where a relative minority of animes are really popular (and often they are generally the lower quality or less original animes).

Oh well, that's just my observation. It's definitely something I notice in the local market.[/color]
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I wasnt saying they werent main stream, but who gives one? Most of them rock, plus the movies we get, we have it better than a lot of countries. Anyway, im happy with it, those are great shows we get. You can always buy dvds if you dont like. :P
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