Ring & Ring 2 (Japanese versions only)

[James]

[color=#507AAC]I have indeed made a thread about these movies on here before...but I made that thread before seeing any of these movies.

And to the best of my knowledge, nobody has specifically discussed the Japanese movies (which are essentially totally different from the American version).

I'd like to know if anyone here has seen Ring and/or Ring 2?

I had heard that Ring 2 was a really shoddy movie...but I don't agree. I watched Ring a couple of weeks ago and I quite enjoyed it...but didn't find it really as scary as the American version.

However, after seeing Ring 2...the entire story is more fleshed out. Ring 2 is a deeper movie than Ring and, in my opinion, delivers both a more interesting ending...as well as much better character development.

The Ring (American version) seems to borrow elements from Ring 2. In the American movie, we see the niece's friend in the mental institution (the girl who walks past the TV with the partition...so that she can't see the monitor). This scene is from Ring 2. However, Ring 2 takes it a lot further. Potential spoiler below:[spoiler]

For example, in Ring 2...the girl stops halfway through the room where all the other patients are. The nurse asks if she is okay...and she begins to walk away from the partition and toward the television set. As she stares at it, it begins to flicker and she holds her head in her hands...and very quickly, the image of the well from the tape comes up on screen. At that moment, all the patients begin going crazy...and the girl reaches out for help. She reaches out to a woman who was formerly a student of the journalist's ex-husband (I can't remember the names at the moment). The journalist grabs her hand and sees her memories...specifically, she sees something that we never see in the American movie; she sees what happened when the girl found her dead friend in the house. When she found the dead friend, she essentially caught Sadako in the act of killing her (or just after the act). Sadako momentarily acknowledges her and continues moving back toward the TV from whence she came. This encounter, whilst not actually [i]killing[/i] the friend, essentially implants her with a neverending nightmare. Whenever she gets near a TV or certain objects...she transfers part of Sadako's power to them. Thus, when she is near a TV...it flickers and shows images from the tape.[/spoiler]

If you've not yet seen the Japanese movies, but you HAVE seen the American ones...I [i]really[/i] recommend seeing the originals.

I do not know if they will make a sequel to the American version, but Ring 2 is exciting because it kind of delves deeper into the history of Sadako and her capabilities. There are also a number of sequences that provide more insight into the original movie.

So, if you haven't seen the Japanese versions...go and rent 'em and then come back here and tell me what you think. Remember; I recommend renting both the original [i]and[/i] Ring 2. I feel that they need to be seen one after the other to get a full experience.

Oh and, if you haven't seen the American version...still see the Japanese editions. They are worth seeing first, I think.

Aaand...if you're young and get easily scared, please don't watch these movies. They are genuinely disturbing...and I don't want to encourage the younger members to view them.[/color]

[Yu Yu Hakusho!]

I've never heard OR watched these movies that you're talking about.
At first I thought you were abbreivating LOTR!! ^_^;

It sounds pretty cool, but if I haven't even heard of the Japanese version, I'm sure I haven't seen the English one. Sounds good though. How can I find it?

[James]

[color=#507AAC]Well, since The Ring was only recently out at the movies...many retailers/rent places (such as Blockbuster) have got the Japanese versions in stock.

I recommend trying different rental outlets. And I recommend seeing the Japanese versions first because, even though they are disturbing, they are less scary than the American movie (in my opinion). And so, if you get scared of the Japanese versions...don't see the American one. lol

I don't get scared of scary movies at all...but Ring/The Ring is the [i]only[/i] movie to have truly terrified me.[/color]

[Anna]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i]
[B][color=#507AAC]
I don't get scared of scary movies at all...but Ring/The Ring is the [i]only[/i] movie to have truly terrified me.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE]


Amen. I don't get scared from movies, but [i]that[/i] movie scared me so frickin badly. I read about Ring/Ring 2 on the internet and have really considered watching them, except, as you said in your first post, Ring 2 was said to be not-that-great. But, I trust your opinion :) and will reconsider seeing them both now.

[Bing]

[size=1][color=darkblue] I am not sure if I have the right film. Is the movie about [spoiler]little kids who see a video of some scene, and if they watch it they die?[/spoiler]
If it is, they played a trailer of it when me and Break where watching The Two Towers at the cinema. I was quite scared myself, and the movie had a large percentage of young viewers, who look terrified. Have I got the right film, or do I look like a total idiot...?[/color][/size]

[Semjaza]

That sounds like the US remake. I've not personally seen any of the three in the series. There is also one called Ringu Zero (or something to that effect), which is like a prequel... Wasn't mentioned in here.

Hollywood is also remaking another Japanese horror movie, which is called The Eye. It's supposedly quite good, and if you are interested, I'd pick it up soon before it eventually gets discontinued due to the US version.

I think the only movie to really disturb me in my life would have to be Jin Roh. Most people think it's so boring... but the last 1/3 of it is excellent. That's another topic though hehe.

[James]

[color=#507AAC]Yes, as Semjaza said...The Ring is the American remake that you may have seen trailers of.

I'm talking about Ring and Ring 2, which are both Japanese versions.

Also, Ring 0...I'm not sure if that's a prequel. I think it's more of a side story, based on what I've read. There is also another Ring movie, but I forget the title.

Anyway, for Anna...yes, you should definitely see these movies. I recommend that everyone see them if you like horror films. Especially if you saw the American remake.

These films are quite artistic in my opinion...and Ring 2 was especially good. It was actually a [i]lot[/i] better than I expected. In fact, I'd say that it's even better than Ring.

So yeah, someone here should go and rent 'em...and tell us what you think. I'm usually not a fan of horror movies, because I rarely find them to be scary or disturbing. But Ring/Ring 2 are truly good films -- the stories alone are worth the price of admission.[/color]

[Bing]

[size=1][color=darkblue] O.k, what rating is this movie? James, did you tell Weh it was a 15, because he wanth to go see it when it is released over here. It sounds pretty scary, and it could ruin my whole, life it would make me afraid of televisions, oh well, it sounds like it's worth it ^_^;;;get back to me about the rating please![/color][/size]

[James]

[color=#507AAC]It would have to be 15+ or whatever. That's what it was here.

But you're talking about The Ring. That is the American version.

I'm talking about Ring/Ring 2, which are the Japanese versions. You can see both of those versions right now -- your local video store should stock 'em. They aren't hard to find and they've been available since 1998 and 1999 respectively.[/color]

[Bing]

[size=1][color=darkblue]Ah, I get it know. I am going to try and get my hands on a copy. It sounds terrifyingly brilliant! You guys really like it, so I might as well give it a chance! I'll report back to you! [/color][/size]

[Transtic Nerve]

I just got done watching The Ring 2. I watched the Ring two days ago, then the American version yesterday, then Ring 2 today.

I did in fact notice that certain elements from Ring 2 were used in the American version of The Ring.

As far as the movies go, both were very good. I like the last minute sequence of events in the Ring, but not so much in The Ring 2, which was more "figure out" and not "try to save yourself"... sort of thing I dunno. The Ring 2 was much more complicated than it's predesessor. Much more in depth as well I believe. Straying upon not the super natural, but what lies within your own self. [spoiler]I'm still not getting what was meant when Mai and Yoichi were climbing up the well and Sadako comes climbing after her and says soemthing like "why were you the only one saved" or something[/spoiler]... I don't remember... i didn't get it. edit: I do now. I just read up on the meaning and it makes sense lol

Anyway for those who are interested. There are 3 sequels to The Ring.

[b]Ring[/b] - released in 1998. The first book in the series.
[b]Rasen[/b] - the sequel to Ring released the same time as Ring in order to try to get more profit. Figuring if people saw the ring, they'd want to see Rasen as well. It didn't work very well. I've yet to find a copy of Rasen. The second book int he series. Rasen was also made into a TV series.
[b]Ring 2[/b] - released in 2000. An original movie, loosely based on the third book in the series [i]Loop[/i].
[b]Ring 0: Birthday[/b] - (technically a prequel, seeing as how it takes place before the Ring story) released in 2000 at the same time as 2. Based on a short story, from the 4th book [i]Birthday[/i], called [i]Lemonheart[/i].
[b]Ring Virus[/b] - Korean/Japanese remake of Ring released in 2000. It's just liek the Ring but incompasses some more aspects of the novel.
[b]The Ring[/b] - American remake of the film released in 2002. Different view on things but done with great care. This is a good movie and in terms, much scarier if you like make up and decomposed corpses.
[b]The Ring 2[/b] - American Version. Yet to be released (October 2004 is the projected release date - 2 year aniversary) It is supposedly going to be a totally new story line. If the original director, Verbinski, does not return for it's sequel, directors Steven Spielberg, Wes Craven and Same mendes have been taken into consideration.

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You would be completely blown away by the contect in the books and the story behind everything related to them. It's really quite amazing.... quite odd also that the American version doesn't pay tribute to such things. While it did do a better job portraying the images from the video as images from Sadako's past, it failed to provide the correct images or the correct story.

[Heaven's Cloud]

[color=indigo]I really enjoyed the two Japanese versions, I actually rented both last week. I had originally thought that The Ring (Am. Version) was based on a movie made in New Zealand...it wasn't until after I bought the movie that I found out differently.

The Japanese (original) versions were quite intriguing, although I thought of them more as a sci-fi suspense thriller then a horror movie. [/color]

[Transtic Nerve]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Heaven's Cloud [/i]
[B][color=indigo]The Japanese (original) versions were quite intriguing, although I thought of them more as a sci-fi suspense thriller then a horror movie. [/color] [/B][/QUOTE]

I think they are supposed to be like that. In the book it's more sci-fi and if you see Ring 0: Birthday, it's all sci-fi like that too. Rasen is kinda that way as well.

[spoiler]In Rasen, there's a virus that is found in all the bodies 7 parts Small Pox, 3 parts DNA, Sadako's DNA. It's more a medical view point. It also becomes apparent that Ryuji becomes partners with Sadako, and in fact he is the person you see with the towel over his head in the video pointing (the guy you see in the picture of whats her face in Ring 2) Also why i think he's down in the well with her at the end of Ring 2. In Ring 0: Birthday, Sakado splits into two people, one evil, one good, and then at the end combines back into what you see in the Ring and Ring 2.[/spoiler]

[Queen Asuka]

[color=hotpink][size=1]I've only seen the American version and it scared me so badly. No movie has ever scared me so bad in my life. I couldn't do anything by myself. I was finally getting over being scared when we had to have all these horrible thunderstorms last night. I had the hardest time going to sleep without seeing images from that movie in my head.

I hope to see the Japanese versions. We go to Blockbuster all the time, so next time my sister goes, I'll request for her to get that. Of course, I will watch it in broad daylight next time and I long time from now. I need to get over the scaredness I have right now...*sighs*[/color][/size]

[Justin]

I want to see the Japanese versions. A friend of mine told me about them. They sound awesome.

As for the scry-factor of the American version: In the theater, I wasn't that scared. However, when I got home and had to walk past blank TV sets with the lights off, I was scared for like a week.

-Justin

[Turkey]

I remember watching it at the theater during the last playing of the night (about 11:30 PM). When sleeping, I awoke, and then I was truly freaked. I kept seeing things everywhere, and I was about to run to my parent's room (yes, I was [b]that[/b] scared). Truly a masterpiece.

[Queen Asuka]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Justin [/i]
[B]As for the scary-factor of the American version: In the theater, I wasn't that scared. However, when I got home and had to walk past blank TV sets with the lights off, I was scared for like a week. [/B][/QUOTE]

[color=hotpink][size=1]Well, the night before last it was storming and I woke up in the middle of the night and I wanted to watch the news because the TV was on, but I was too scared to sit down in front of it alone in the dark, so I ran back to my room and got under the covers quickly. I am so pathetic... -_-[/color][/size]