Zidargh Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 [SIZE=1][COLOR=darkblue] Hmm I know this is kind of random, but I was thinking. Well my young brother (11) was going on about things that didnt make sense as usual and was saying he hated things and all that stuff where you get bored of something. But myself, being in a witty mood, felt like confusing him with a question that seemed pretty logical to me, which in basic terms means, it doesnt make sense to anyone else. So now I get to the point, I asked him, ''If you don truly know what love is, how can you know what hate is?'' It kind of works in an oxymoron sense, I was just thinking about it and wondering any of you had questions like these that just appear in your life, and see what you thought of my previous question.[/COLOR][/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu Yu Hakusho! Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 I kind of understand your question....I have thoughts like that too. "If you truly don't know what love is, how can you know what hate is?" Well....sounds to me like if you do know about hate, you should know about love. And if you don't know about love, you don't know about anything....0_o Or maybe I don't quite understand it. That's just what I think. Now you tell us what it means to you Zidane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zidargh Posted January 6, 2003 Author Share Posted January 6, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Yu Yu Hakusho! [/i] [B]I kind of understand your question....I have thoughts like that too. "If you truly don't know what love is, how can you know what hate is?" Well....sounds to me like if you do know about hate, you should know about love. And if you don't know about love, you don't know about anything....0_o Or maybe I don't quite understand it. That's just what I think. Now you tell us what it means to you Zidane. [/B][/QUOTE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=darkblue]Well I dont really KNOW what it means. But here is what I think it means to me. The world works in a balance right? Some good leader who can throw their idealists to positive things. But there's others that have caused terrible events to occur. Well we all know love and hate are completely opposites, then emotions must stay balanced to, thus leaving all the positives and negatives in situations linked together. Well you cannot understand and appreciate a true feeling without understanding the other. Well thats what I think anyway.[/COLOR][/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 [color=red] Ah, but questions are not always true. I believe hate and love are intuitional human emotions, which, what I'm basically saying, each and everyone of us have feelings of love and hate. They also don't got directly along with another, but they are oppositives. But I don't think your question really is relevant, once you see the fact that hate and love are emotions and feelings, and that each and every human being has them.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCajones Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Well what I have been grown up to believe is that hate is where you strongly dislike someone/something. As for love it is complicated. Still it is a strong feeling for someone, but as in you want to be with someone/something. Is your question referred to like loving food or say computer games or the love you feel for a person you want to be with? Same with hate? :demon: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 [size=1][color=darkblue]This question kind of confuses me, but here is my opinion. Nobody knows the true meaning of love, or hate because that feeling is different for everyone. You can't understand these emotions unless you have felt them for real. 'Love' and 'hate' are two completely different phrases, that get thrown around nowadays. For me, true hate isn't disliking someone, it's really getting annoyed by them, and wanting them gone. And love, love for me, is when you can't stop thinking about a person. You dream about them, you speak to them, you get a funny feeling when you see them. It can be both nice, and terrible. I believe you can't love a material object (like i 'love' my Xbox ^_^, you can just like them alot. So, to my Theoratical Question...Can true love, lead to true hate? Can true hate, ever breed true love? And once you have loved someone, can you ever let them go?[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCajones Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 I also get a tingly feeling when seeing someone I really love, but I can't always control my dreams. I always think of whoever I love (can be embarrassing when day dreaming in class), but if there really good looking I can't always get the right words to say and I can't always pluck up courage to make a move. :( On the phone or online I would speak to that person loads though and devote my love to her hoping she feels the same way as love hurts! I think love can lead into hate especially when some ***** dumps you or goes out with you for a joke which is really annoying! Sometimes you loose contact with your mates and begin to avoid them when in love and jealous mates also can be two faced which may lead to hate. I think you have to let go someone, because you have to move on eventually there isn't really anything you can do except keep fighting for her love, which is an emotional time. Hate turning into love I suppose can happen when you find out what that person is truely like your opinions may change of that person. I don't know really they are my opinions :love: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 I think you can know hate even if you don't know what love truly is. Are they really different sides of the same coin? I mean you can say good and evil are two sides of one coin so you can't know what is good without knowing what is bad (at least in the long run), but Hate and Love different ends of a spectrum so varied that different cultures have different ideas of what belongs in it (the spectrum being emotions). I know my argument isn't all that well supported, but think of it this way: do you have to know how to hate to know how to love? and Vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genkai Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 I think the question you're asking might realte to these questions too... "How can you [b]understand[/b] love and [b]understand[/b] hate?" or "How can you [b]know[/b] love and [b]understand[/b] hate?"(or vice versa) Those of which I have no clue to..:toothy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 [size=1]Everyone seems to be under the impression that love is the opposite of hate. That's not true. They're so close that sometimes you can't tell the difference. The opposite of love is apathy.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnemolth Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sara [/i] [B][size=1]Everyone seems to be under the impression that love is the opposite of hate. That's not true. They're so close that sometimes you can't tell the difference. The opposite of love is apathy.[/size] [/B][/QUOTE] Hmm...interesting but I would have to disagree. Love and hate are close, but that's not because they are the same thing. They are [i]part[/i] of the same thing, two sides of the same coin. The opposite of love is not apathy. That's because the opposite of apathy is life... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan L Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 [quote][i]originally posted by Sara[/i] [b]Everyone seems to be under the impression that love is the opposite of hate. That's not true. They're so close that sometimes you can't tell the difference. The opposite of love is apathy.[/b][/quote] [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mnemolth [/i] [B]Hmm...interesting but I would have to disagree. Love and hate are close, but that's not because they are the same thing. They are [i]part[/i] of the same thing, two sides of the same coin. The opposite of love is not apathy. That's because the opposite of apathy is life... [/B][/QUOTE] firstly.. I'd say that apathy is the opposite of emotion in general, rather than love specifically, or life Secondly, saying that "They're so close that sometimes you can't tell the difference" isn't the same as saying "they're the same thing", which is the point you seemed to disagree with, Mnemolth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sara [/i] [B][size=1]Everyone seems to be under the impression that love is the opposite of hate. That's not true. They're so close that sometimes you can't tell the difference. The opposite of love is apathy.[/size] [/B][/QUOTE] [color=red] Love [i]is[/i] hate. Hate [i]is[/i] love. The opposite of apathy is certainly not life, it is emotion--any kind. Although hate and love can be opposites, they can also not be so. Love can be hate, it can be intermixed. Hate can be love, it can be intermixed. But as I said, these emotions are intuitional, it is pointless to say someone does not know them, because they do, even if they have yet not felt them.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrist cutter Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mitch [/i] [B]Love [i]is[/i] hate. Hate [i]is[/i] love.[/B][/QUOTE] I'd disagree with that. But really though, people are going to be going in circles for awhile with this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 I'm sorry, but I don't understand. How can love be hate? Can you explain mitch? I can understand hate being extremely close to love because true hate and true love both share the same requirements (understanding of a person, respect for some aspect/aspects of a person) and often times love comes 'round because of a fluke or a twist of fate (i.e. being born to certain parents, being brought up a certain way, meeting a certain way etc. etc.) But they are not interchangeable. To progress from loving someone to hating them means you've lost a part of yourself and maybe gained a different part. because emotions are a piece of a person and when emotions change the person starts to change (we've all seen people start acting weird when they get depressed). And if the emotion changing/being formed is long term than a very deep change has been enacted also; Apathy maybe literally means the opposite of emotion but isn't that what makes life life? So wouldn't it then be the opposite of life? "And is Love then more Than the kick galvanic Or the Thundering roar Of Ash volcanic Belched from some crater Of earth-fire within? Are we automata Or Angel-kin?" -R.H. Ash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Yoshi [/i] [B]I'm sorry, but I don't understand. How can love be hate? Can you explain mitch? [/B][/QUOTE] [color=red]Love and hate are all in almost the same batch together--with every love, there's a thread of hate there. With every hate, there's a thread of love there. I'm just saying basically that love is not pure, it's just an emotion--and there's always two sides to a coin. Such as is the way. To everything you love, there's a part of it you hate, to everthing you hate, there's something there you love. Love is hate, hate is love. I'm not trying to say they're the same things, don't conceptualize it that much--I'm just saying that they are both very strong emotions that are often pared together in one whole new emotion of creation. But yeh, I can't really explain it all too well, which mostly is going to have me lose my credibility on this--but just think about It for awhile, your own answer shall come.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 well have you ever loved something/someone so much that every piece of it is like another facet of a diamond. A fault becomes a piece of it that makes it/them brighter or more beautiful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 [color=red] There you go. That's pretty much what I meant.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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