Pressure Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by gokents [/i] [B]Its not that I mean to "lump" you james. Its just that in this discussion there are 2 groups. Those who support the application of capital punishment and those who dont. [/B][/QUOTE] [color=purple]Er.. not to be contradictory, but I don't exactly agree with this. Crazy White Boy, is my support. He said he was on the fence. So really, there are three groups, no? Those who support captial punishment, those who do not, and then there are the undecided. I believe the people who make exceptions also fall into that third group. Alright, enough rambling on about the number of groups. :angel: I support capital punishment. Often, I support it for economical reasons. If you lock up thousands of criminals, and place a couple hundred of those on death row, then soon the penitentiaries(sp) become overcrowded. James has already heard my arguments on this. :smirk: A necessary evil. Do you agree? Many people view captial punishment as murder. 'An eye for an eye makes the world go blind.' I don't think it's murder, even though James knows I tricked myself into saying it was. I brought up a good point, without knowing it, during our conversation. By posting it, I'm going to contradict everything I have already posted. But, that will be worth it for you to have a go with this question. The state has the 'right' to punish criminals with capital punishment by The Constitution. You do not. If you did, it would be a vigilanty, and ultimately illegal act, even if t was for revenge or a just cause. There fore, you would be convicted of a crime if you killed the criminal. In your eyes the original murderer would have recieved the justice he deserved. But would that be enough to die yourself? That is why the state has the right. BUT, the state legislators, the court judges, the exicutioners, are they not also humans? Then they must follow the same laws that you do must they not? Then why is it that when you kill, you are also sentenced to death for your revenge. But when the state does it, they are not consequenced for the revenge of society? [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A. Rod. Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 I don't see anything wrong with the death penalty. Then again, there are different kinds of criminals, and the point of jail time is to rehabilitate. Then their are those who cannot be taught the truth of their cirmes. Take, for example, a cab driver killer. This may be a type of person who can torture and kill dozens of taxi cab drivers and not know what they are doing wrong, but if they hit a little girl behind the wheel, the guilt eats away at them. These are the type of people you put behind bars for the rest of their life, sending specialists to try and help him realize their wrong doings. If they never learn, they can stay in prison for their remaining time, where they are unable to hurt the innocent. Then there are the type of people who kill because they have a similar problem, but they know what they are doing wrong the morning after. If these type of people do not seek help fast, they will most likely kill themselves. If they are caught, they are probably itching for someone to pass the ultimate judgement on them. There are too many kinds of murderers who kill for too many different reasons, so I'll cut the criminal profile short. But, to make a long story short, I think that the death sentence is good punishment for generally any type of murderer, but to use an iron fist too much of the time is another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu Yu Hakusho! Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 No. I think that murders should suffer what they did. Staying in prison for life and having to work is a much better punishment than killing them right then and there. It may sound horrible either way (which it is), but they gotta suffer, like they did to those poor people they killed or did stuff too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A. Rod. Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 I agree to a point that the prisoners should suffer, but some of these people are afraid to die. However, I do think that the whole "lethal injection" thing is trying a bit too hard to be civilized to certain people who don't care about what they did. If you ask me, they should bring back stoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu Yu Hakusho! Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 Yeah....stoning sounds good to me....but still, they should suffer. And everyone fears death, even if they think that getting the death peanalty is better than a life sentence. [b]They should still suffer for what they did.[/b] And that's what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fall Posted January 30, 2003 Share Posted January 30, 2003 But they don't suffer. Criminals go to jail, [i]if[/i] they are sentenced. They'll get sentenced, then get bail, parole, whatever you want to call it, and a good behaviour bond, and then get out 10 years earlier then what they were sentenced to. The death penalty would atleast make some of those idiots think "Oh, I'm killing someone, I'll be killed for it!". The death penalty is better than sending someone to jail, only to see them get out on a good behaviour bond in my opinion. ....and you can send someone to jail for 2 life sentences here, which means the criminal will only serve 50 years.....if at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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