wrist cutter Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 I don't know, it seems like many people strongly dislike '80s music. Or at least, they think of it as outdated, and that it should be left in the past. Is this how you think? I'm a bit surprised when I see people showing such a strong dislike for this type of music, since most everything I listen is '80s or sounds like it should be. I guess my question is, would you think a band was cheesy if they came on the radio, and sounded really outdated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 I listen to many bands that have been playing since the 80s... I'm sure a lot of people here do as well, and don't even know it. I'll even go back farther with bands I am really into. I like 80s music. I always have. I grew up on it, along with 60s and 70s rock. A lot of what I'm about to list may have played earlier than this, but I feel most of their main stuff was still releaseed in the 80s... Stuff like Gary Numan, The Police, The Cars, Genesis, Micheal Jackson, Queen (although a far lesser extent than the 70s), Madonna (before she sucked), Boy George, Depeche Mode (again, I feel they were mostly an 80s band), Motley Crue (maybe they were more 90s? I forget), Bauhaus, Ministry (yay Wax Trax), The Clash (short lived as that was)...etc etc. Plus bands that had already been around and were still playing such as Bowie and Aerosmith and some of the older punk bands. Of course many of them are still playing today. Manson, NIN, The Flaming Lips, Beastie Boys (although to a far, far lesser extent than the others I mentioned), The Pixies and so many other bands I love started in the 80s... And while they have updated their sound, I think they still have the same core sound -- well not The Pixies, they broke up so long ago. Now if a band came out sounding like that...? I don't know that I'd consider them outdated. I'd judge them on if they were good or not, and whether they brought anything new or interesting to the table. Whether it sounded 80s (or even older) would make no difference to me. I feel many bands I like are influenced by something even older, and while that influence is more prominent in some bands than others... I think the 80s sounds should be looked back at something good, rather than outdated. It kind of reminds me of the Happy Birthday thread you made. I made a comment about not being able to get into a lot of the songs I'd heard to that point because they sounded like 80s rock. I like 80s rock, but for some reason most of jrock (or whatever each band is refered to as) never really did anything for me. The songs you posted changed my mind about my perception of it on a whole though. I suppose that's just something more people need to happen to them as well. Of course you have to realize that most people are extremely fickle, misinformed and extremely ignorant when it comes to music outside of the obvious stuff. It's like that everywhere. I hope that made sense :D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSJ Gotenks ok Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 Ive heard some 80's music that have caught my ear!:D But alot of it was really annoying i liked 80's hip hop but as for bands there are a couple that i would actually listen too.And i think a outdated band would sound real chessy!It would be fun too see em!:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treton_noir Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 it really depends on what type of music you are referring to. i like music, regardless of when it was made. (i think judging music by the date is a bunch of trendy BS and it really pisses me off. i.e. most "hip-hop fans" listen to a new track or record for a few weeks, put it down, and never touch it again. they always want something new and have no appreciation for earlier work. if a band makes a good track. that track will be good if its 10 minutes old or if its 10 million years old.) *80's metal-80's metal (glam rock) (pop-metal) is absolutely horrible. i hate van halen. i hate poison. i hate bon jovi. i hate twisted sister. metallica made a lot of great stuff in the 80's, though. the same with ozzy. he made some fantastic records during that time. anthrax was around then, too. the people that made music, made music. the people that played with make-up, got attention and ruined a decade. *80' pop- you should all know by now that i am the anti-pop. (yay for primus!), but sometimes, whether it be humorous or whatever, i enjoy some 80's pop. the talking heads, duran duran, tommy tutone, men without hats..., i guess thats my guilty pleasure. lol... 80's pop. *80's hip-hop- i can appreciate what the people who made this did and what they did for hip-hop, but i dont like it a whole lot. the basic rhythems. the "stuttering"style rapping. its just so... basic, but on the other hand, with the basic sound, came a "real-ness" to the music. they rapped about real life and about problems that people really have. i respect that a lot. *edit- i suppose the "make-up" comment looks really dumb considerng the MuDvAyNe stuff i have, i honestly believe there is a difference, though (especially in the talent department). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 Just like anything, 80s music is some good and some bad... Only in the case of 80s music its alittle more bad than good. Well, maybe a lot of bad. Either way, there is a lot of music from that decade that I love. I think some was horrid, but a good bit of it was really cool and more importantly, when I hear it, it gives me a feeling of nastalgia, and that is always great when it takes you back to (in my case) a mostly joyful childhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan L Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 It all depends.. the 80's "stereotype" of music, I'm not overly fond of. the sort of heavily synthesized stuff. In fact, most of today's music is synthesized.. but the synths actually sound better, heh.. There's a lot of 80's music that isn't really like that though. I love U2's 80's stuff.. and to be honest they haven't changed their style a great deal since then and it still works today.. so yeah.. I don't hate all music from the 80s, but I don't like the over-synthesised 80s stereotype of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by treton_noir [/i] [B](i think judging music by the date is a bunch of trendy BS and it really pisses me off. i.e. most "hip-hop fans" listen to a new track or record for a few weeks, put it down, and never touch it again. they always want something new and have no appreciation for earlier work. if a band makes a good track. that track will be good if its 10 minutes old or if its 10 million years old.)[/B][/QUOTE] This reminds me of something I wrote in some post here about that type of music. There was an issue of The Source, and of course the cover had a flavor of the month on it (or at least someone I don't feel should be respected as much as they are)... In the corner was a tiny, tiny little blurb about someone who could be considered one of the founding fathers of rap/hip hop (the name escapes me right now). I think the actual article was also tiny. I just find it really sad that it's like that with that genre. In rock, bands call their influences all the time. I hardly ever hear a rap/hiphop group ever mention any other group. There are all these old collaborations. You know that some bigger rock groups of today would bend over backwards to play a tour or even one song with some rock legend... but in this genre, it doesn't seem to be the case. Oh well, I went off on a tangent heh. I apologize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 80's music is quite possibly the best music EVER made. That is all I have to say about that... and oh yeah... I LOVE THE 80'S! ::watches VH1:: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manic Webb Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 There's a lot of stuff made in the 80's that I'd love to hear maybe one more time (no more than twice), but there's also quite a few that I just can't get tired of. I'm really into 80's R&B and Pop. There's nothing like listening to some New Edition, Lisa-Lisa, Madonna, Michael & Janet Jackson, and Cameo (ow!). (well, not so much Cameo) And don't even get me started on 80's hip-hop! I couldn't stand rap in the 90's (too violent) and rap today is way to materialistic. Back then, all anyone rapped about was partying, having fun, and (of course) serious issues. When you're barely in kindergarden in the 80's (like I was), the best rappers were Salt-n-Peppa, Kid-n-Play, Fresh Prince, and MC Hammer. They were so fun to listen to, because that's all they did; have fun. I can't think of one popular rapper today (except for maybe Lil Romeo, if he counts) who raps about nothing at all and looks like they're having a good time. *walks away singing New Edition songs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrist cutter Posted February 6, 2003 Author Share Posted February 6, 2003 Oh yeah, I really, really like "If it isn't love" by New Edition. That's good stuff, right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juu Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 [color=ff00cc] [size=1]I don't really mind 80's music... What I can't stand are songs [i]before[/i] the 80's... *dodges tomatoes* I like music genres that's pretty active, and not exactly as mellow/colorful as the 70-60's were. Madonna's earlier songs like 'Like a Virgin' were pretty good... now I can't stand alot of her songs. I really liked hip hop better in the 80- early 90's though. But really... alot of people call songs up to three months old 'outdated' now. o_o;[/color] [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foredaddy Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 all i know is that Led Zepplin is the best band ever. Or was it Whang Chung? Oh well whats the difference:devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subversive Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 80's was good music, it was ruined by those annoying one-hit wonders. Think Nirvana, ACDC, Beastie Boys, Motley Crue, Guns and Roses, Metallica, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merchant Posted February 7, 2003 Share Posted February 7, 2003 I like 80´s music, i remeber i used to hate it in the mid 90´s but then i realised is a darn good music stile. then when i plaget GTA3 i really got more into 80´s music with flashback fm and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShinje Posted February 7, 2003 Share Posted February 7, 2003 I,like Deus Ex Machina, cannot stan the over synthesized, beeps and whistles claptrap. I love some great music from the 80's, Like Quiet Riot, AC/DC, Ozzy Osbourne ect.. I have Vice City to thank for that :D oh, Semjaza, are you sure Marilyn Manson performes in the 80's? I'm pretty sure (even though i dislike manson) That his debut album was in 1994!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treton_noir Posted February 7, 2003 Share Posted February 7, 2003 the manson band (with the spooky kids) was formed in 1989. they self-released a few tapes: 1.Meat Beat Cleaver Beat & Snuffy's VCR (1989) 2.Grist-O-Line & Big Black Bus (1990) 3.After School Special & Lunchbox(1991) 4.The Familyn Jams(1992) 5.Refrigerator(1993) (recorded "Portrait of an American Family", not released) then they released "Portrait of an American Family" (1994) on nothing records. band formed in 1989. major label debut in 1994. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted February 7, 2003 Share Posted February 7, 2003 Portrait of an American Family was the label debut, and yes it was in 1994. Back before that, the band was known as Marilyn Manson and The Spooky Kids (the name was cut down later on, which is one of the many things that started pissing off Daisy). The rest of what treton_noir said is correct, although there are arguments on whether or not "Snuffy's VCR" ever really existed. So yes, they barely make the 80s cut. It's so close that I probably shouldn't have mentioned them lol... but many people don't realize the band has been going that long, so it seemed worth saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treton_noir Posted February 7, 2003 Share Posted February 7, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Semjaza Azazel [/i] [B]Portrait of an American Family was the label debut, and yes it was in 1994. Back before that, the band was known as Marilyn Manson and The Spooky Kids (the name was cut down later on, which is one of the many things that started pissing off Daisy). The rest of what treton_noir said is correct, although there are arguments on whether or not "Snuffy's VCR" ever really existed.[/B][/QUOTE] isnt that what i said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted February 7, 2003 Share Posted February 7, 2003 It was just a reiteration... lol. You didn't mention the name change or the Snuffy argument, so there :p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegeta rocker Posted February 7, 2003 Share Posted February 7, 2003 Nobody can truly hate the 80's. If they say they do, they have no idea what they are talking about. Punk might never have come into being without the 80's. A little tidbit of 80's trivia. Remember turning japanese by The Vapors? Do you know what that song is really about? When you turn japanese, thats slang for having an orgasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subversive Posted February 7, 2003 Share Posted February 7, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by vegeta rocker [/i] [B]Punk might never have come into being without the 80's. [/B][/QUOTE] True, so very true. Did you see that special on MTV2 on the progression of Punk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A. Rod. Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 I used to hate all eighties music, but after hearing a little bit of it, and realizing that all my mom used to play was from this era, it grew on me. Bands like Queen, and David Bowie, and all of the great one-hit wonders that came out with really good songs in this decade are some of the finest. On the other hand, some of the bands are either stupid of frightening, but we have plenty of this stupid music today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subversive Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 Without stupid music we wouldn't have any to ignore. LOL, but seriously while I dislike most one hit wonders, they do shape the music scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegeta rocker Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SpyderDragon [/i] [B]True, so very true. Did you see that special on MTV2 on the progression of Punk? [/B][/QUOTE] Actually i think i saw it on pop up video.....long ago when they did pop ups on cool videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subversive Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 I wish they still had that, and if they do I can't find it. Do you know if you can find episodes of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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