Guest Prince_Veggeto Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 There is something that I don't understand, In the tv special"the history of Trunks" it takes Trunks such a long time to become Super saiyan,while in DBZ he becommes SS when he is just a child?I mean there is something really wrong with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 Not really. Trunks in the special was just not as strong; the Trunks from our timeline was born naturally strong, and apparently with the ability to go Super from the get-go. It's just a bunch of inter-dimensional ********. :cross: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Prince_Veggeto Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 Still....he was younger and didnt have many reasons,but now that he is older,with the androids and all he should have been able to turn SS much easier. I understand what you are trying to say but still.... Also, many people say that Goku is older then Vegeta when actually its the other way around.lol,rumors. [SIZE=1][i][color=blue]Edit: Just combined a double post. Try not to double post okay. I know you're new so I wont through this against ya. But again, try not to double post okay. Thank ya kindly. :D[/color][/i][/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Chibi Trunks had the ability to train with his father day in and day out, Mirai no Trunks didn't have that ability because his father died. Only when he decided he needed to become as strong as Gohan did he achieve that power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Exactly what tn said... thanks tn. Plus, chibi trunks got to train in the intense gravity that his dad trained in and that was bound to help. And he got to have a day in day out sparring partner from goten, who was never born in the other time line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitoya Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 another strange thing future trunks go ssj2 when kid trunks never does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiroMunkie Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by jitoya[/i] [B]another strange thing future trunks go ssj2 when kid trunks never does[/B][/QUOTE][color=indigo][size=1]Actually, Marai Trunks never achieved Super Saiya-jin level 2. The farthest he got was an Ultra Super Saiya-jin, also referred to in the American dub as an "Ascended Saiyan". If Marai Trunks would have been at Super Saiya-jin level 2, he probably could have defeated Perfect Cell. :whoops:[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GriffXL Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 actually they never gave ussj a name in the american dub.If u listen to what goku is saying to babidi he goes ssj and tells babidi its ssj then he goes ssj 2 and says this is the ascended saiyan level or ssj2...and marai no trunks probably couldnt beat perfect cell at ssj2 cause at ussj he couldnt do anything really do cell sure hed get still have his speed and more strength but remember perfect cell is almost like being ssj2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 1) No, they DID call it 'Ascended Saiyan' in the dubs. 2) Kakarot goes Super Saiya-jin 2, and says "This is the level beyond the level beyond Super Saiya-jin, or 'Super Saiya-jin 2'". 3) At Ultra Super Saiya-jin, Trunks was stronger than Cell. Cell even admits this with "I admit, you have surpassed me; at least in the area of brute strength... ...And yet..you have no chance of winning." Thus, if he would have gone Super Saiya-jin 2, not only would he be stronger, he'd be faster. How do you think Gohan was able to rip Cell to shreds when he went Super Saiya-jin 2? Duh. 4) Only after he self-destructed was Cell like a Super Saiya-jin 2, but he was still not quite as powerful as Gohan. That is, until Gohan did a sacrifice dive to save Vegita. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GriffXL Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 well after cell did admit trunks was stronger he did what trunks had done pumped his little muscles. and they didnt call ussj ascended saiyan i can go watch the tape to see what they called it (gotta find it though hehe). and cell was never more powerful then gohan even after gohan lost his arm i mean gohan was holding his own w/ 1 arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitoya Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Im talking about when Trunks goes back to his time and beats the crap outta 17, 18, and Cell if you looked close you'll notice his hair is all spiked more than ssj and his form ultra ssj with 2 small bits down and another thing in the english dubs (which funamation destroyed here in New zealand cut to bits) Goku does call it super sayain 2 and then super saiyan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCBaggee Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 [color=red]Well, the Trunks in the movie, Mirai No Trunks or Future Trunks is from a timeline in which Goku and the others died, and he was trained by Gohan. He was also fathered by a Vegeta who may not have been as strong as the one that fathered the current Trunks. The Trunks shown in the Android Saga and Buu Saga, known as Chibi Trunks or Young Trunks, is from a different timeline. Since there are 3 timelines, changes to the Chibi Trunks' status do not affect Mirai no Trunks' status. Since Chibi Trunks was trained by his father under different conditions, he was able to reach Super Saiya-Jin faster then Mirai no Trunks was. So, to answer your question, it's because they are two different Trunks'. Hope that helps. --Chris[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitoya Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Have you ever seen the "Save the Future" episode (about 2 or 3 after Cell dies)where Mirai Trunks beats and destroys 17, 18 and cell if you look close you'll see he's ssj 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiroMunkie Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 [color=indigo][size=1]Mirai no Trunks [b]never[/b] reached Super Saiya-jin level 2. Just because his hair a little bit different does not mean anything. They have different artists who draw for the episodes, so the consistency in how something looks is not always going to be there. If he [i]had[/i] reached Super Saiya-jin level 2, they would have made somewhat of an issue about it or at least stated it.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitoya Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Well its in all the games i've played and all the sites i've looked up so tell them that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GriffXL Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 no reason in saying this but trunks never did go ssj2 piro is right different artists make a difference and trunks had a slightly different hair cut also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitoya Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 Then why did Trunks have a ssj2 aura when he killed cell in his own time????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiroMunkie Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by jitoya[/i] [B]Then why did Trunks have a ssj2 aura when he killed cell in his own time?????????????[/B][/QUOTE][color=indigo][size=1]:twitch: Again, different animators do things differently. The episode where Mirai no Trunks goes back to his own time to kill off Cell and the androids is not that important of an episode. It is a filler. It is just there to show us what became of Mirai no Trunks and his timeline. So, being that this is an irrelevant episode, they did not waste their time using the best animators who they used for more important things. So things were [i]bound[/i] to be different: his hair, his aura. Whatever. By Super Saiya-jin level 2 aura, I am guessing that you mean the scattered electric charges. They probably just threw that in their for drama. It just makes him look "cooler". As I said, if Mirai no Trunks actually attained the level of Super Saiya-jin level 2, they would have made a bigger deal about it, and that story of him going back to his own time might have lasted more than one episode.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitoya Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 Just think for a sec Nearly dies !!!! He's a saiyan !!! Gets Healed from near death !!! stronger than Vegeta big power increase cause of getting healed!! = SSJ 2 They didnt make a big deal about it cause they want you to pick it up (this coming from a *** site) by yourself to see if you know about sayains i mean they didnt make a big deal about Goku and Vegeta going SSJ2 in the buu saga!!!!! cause they wernt the frist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GriffXL Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 Man trunks is not stronger than vegeta he didnt have a near death experience he actually died! so no power up boost.and vegeta had a near death experience and didnt go ssj2 and since trunks isnt stronger than vegeta he wouldnt have gone ssj2 They didnt make a big deal out of goku and vegeta going ssj2 cause it was buu saga going to a lvl that has already been done before is no whippdy doo knowing that its not going to be enough. do you get it man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShinje Posted February 21, 2003 Share Posted February 21, 2003 Hair being different and a little bit of an aura is no indication that he is super saiya-jin 2, Like Piromunkie said, it's like, different animation. I never draw the hair in rising sun the [i] exact[/i] way do i? you've seen more than 1 or 2 pics, so you know. As for these websites you found saying he's level 2, are these the sites that all look the same, have very similar web graphics, link to each other and are called stuff like Anime zone, Anime net, Anime Ring, Anime dub, or even Planetnamek? theotaku.com is far more credible, take that from me ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCBaggee Posted February 21, 2003 Share Posted February 21, 2003 [color=red]Ladies and Gentlemen, at the end of the Android Saga, Trunks was still Ultra Super Saiya-Jin. Yes, he died. Maybe he was strong enough to trigger Super Saiya-Jin 2. But he [b]did not[/b]. When he went back and fought the Androids and Cell, he was confident and calm, and did not have an emotional outburst needed to first trigger the SSJ2 transformation. Without a trigger to set off the power, he couldn't have used it. So, plain and simple, Mirai no Trunks being SSJ2? [b]No[/b] --Chris[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinzouningen17 Posted February 21, 2003 Share Posted February 21, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JCBaggee [/i] [color=red]Ladies and Gentlemen, at the end of the Android Saga, Trunks was still Ultra Super Saiya-Jin. Yes, he died. Maybe he was strong enough to trigger Super Saiya-Jin 2. But he [b]did not[/b]. When he went back and fought the Androids and Cell, he was confident and calm, and did not have an emotional outburst needed to first trigger the SSJ2 transformation. Without a trigger to set off the power, he couldn't have used it. So, plain and simple, Mirai no Trunks being SSJ2? [b]No[/b] --Chris[/color][/QUOTE] I think that pretty much tells my thoughts on this aswell. :D Trunks was never SSJ2. He didnt have to go SSJ2 against IMPERFECT Cell. Lets not forget, he beat Perfect Cell down pretty badly(he didnt kill him, but he probably could have since he [b]WAS[/b] stronger than Vegeta(look at the part when Trunks first goes Ultra SSJ. He mentions it right then when he's talkin to Kuririn in both Japanese and English versions)...but then again, when I think about it, no he couldnt. Cell was just toyin wit him. lol ANYWAY, back on topic, I dont even think Trunks went Ultra SSJ to kill Imperfect Cell. He just had a high power boost to fire that ki blast. So I think he was still regular SSJ. But NO, Trunks did not, nor did he EVER go SSJ2. *ahem*...your welcome. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSJ Pud Posted February 21, 2003 Share Posted February 21, 2003 Hehe and i doubt the producers would intentionally try to slip the transformation past the audience with the sole reason of seeing if they could catch it on their own. Thats not really something people would put anything on t.v. would do. Of course he did'nt go SSJ2, There is really no such thing as a "SSJ2 Aura" and if u doubt the fact animators drawn things differntly, jus look at Vegeta's height to hair ratio throughout the seris. For god sake his hair was almost as big as him in the first few episodes he was in, then he gradually got taller, and his hair was shortened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GriffXL Posted February 21, 2003 Share Posted February 21, 2003 he did say he surpassed his father in strenght but after he realised what he did he said vegeta stopped cause like goku he knew there was something wrong w/ ussj. so if vegeta wanted to he could become stronger than trunks if he went on like trunks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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