Harry Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Let's say you're trapped out in the desert with three friends, with no civilization or shelther within miles. Your stomach rumbles in pain from the lack of nourishment. In essensce, you must kill and eat your friends to survive. is this wrong? I mean, it's either you dine on their flesh, or die out alone in the desert, forgotten and tortured by the cruel hands of mother nature. In a life or death situation, is cannablism immoral? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sui Generis Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Morally...yes. I mean if they ARE dead, as gross as it sounds. Yes its fine. I mean it would be wrong for you just to starve yourself to death when you have ample food. (Btw: Welcome back) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted February 23, 2003 Author Share Posted February 23, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Lalaith Ril [/i] [B]Morally...yes. I mean if they ARE dead, as gross as it sounds. Yes its fine. I mean it would be wrong for you just to starve yourself to death when you have ample food. (Btw: Welcome back) [/B][/QUOTE] No, they're alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sui Generis Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 In that case with their consent yes. I mean as long as you don't murder them its fine. Its kinda gross and sad to think about it, but if they say yes. Then its ok.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted February 23, 2003 Author Share Posted February 23, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Lalaith Ril [/i] [B]In that case with their consent yes. I mean as long as you don't murder them its fine. Its kinda gross and sad to think about it, but if they say yes. Then its ok.... [/B][/QUOTE] Why would it be wrong if they don't consent though?? You're only doing it to survive, there's no hatred or malice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emjay Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 well, in the desert, I would die- I mean- It's no problem to me if I die surrounded by a few friends, it's much better than eating them while the thot lingers in yer head until you DO die! And if you were at home with no food- just get the phone book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiroMunkie Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 [color=indigo][size=1]Heh, personally, I do not think I would ever resort to it while I still have [i]some[/i] sense of sanity to me. I do not really have anything against cannibalism. If people want to eat their own kind, that is there deal. I am too stubborn to actually [i]kill[/i] and then eat another person in the situation you described. It is more fun to actually see how long you, and others, can tough things out. Though, if one of them died along the way, I might resort to it. No sense in letting him/her go to waste. If that scenario actually came up, chances are I would have set it up. Like the evil, demented scientist guy that purposely gets himself and his friends "lost" to see how people fair when lost in a desert within relatively nothing to eat* ... * oddly enough, I accidentally typed "ear" the first time I did that. How fitting to the topic considering the word I meant to type. :p[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Still Murder... is WRONG.... no matter what the resons are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Macaiodh Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 [color=darkblue]Well, obviously if you're in a civilized country & somebody found out, you'd go to prison. But in other places, cannibalism is a regular thing. We only see it as barbaric because of the culture we live in. Animals do it all the time, if that's what food they have. But doing it on a regular basis when you have other food is immoral, IMO. About your scenario, I personally don't know. I probably couldn't go through with it. Then again, hunger can drive people insane. I could see people turning primitive, instinctually, in order to survive, hunting each other down. In that case, it probably wouldn't be immoral since all sense of right & wrong has gone out the window (in which case it wouldn't really matter if it [i]was[/i] immoral or not).[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted February 23, 2003 Author Share Posted February 23, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by PiroMunkie [/i] [B][color=indigo][size=1] Like the evil, demented scientist guy that purposely gets himself and his friends "lost" to see how people fair when lost in a desert [/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE] Or just to have an excuse to eat someone ;) [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Blanko [/i] [B]Still Murder... is WRONG....[/B][/QUOTE] Suicide is wrong isn't it? Not killing someone to eat them is pretty much committing suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiroMunkie Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Harry[/i] [B]Or just to have an excuse to eat someone ;)[/b][/quote][color=indigo][size=1]:shifty: Shh... You are going to ruin my plans![/color][/size][quote][b]Suicide is wrong isn't it? Not killing someone to eat them is pretty much committing suicide.[/B][/QUOTE][color=indigo][size=1]It just does not feel right to most people to kill another person. Even if it [i]is[/i] for the sake of your own life and death. They have what they call "compassion". Pfft, whatever [i]that[/i] is, lol.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 [color=#808080]If my friend was still alive...no. If they were dead...no. I would be too traumatized by their death to [i]eat[/i] them. I could never do that. I wouldn't even be able to stomach it. Can you imagine slicing off and eating the flesh of your own [i]friend[/i]? You would have to be severely insane to do anything like that...regardless of your circumstances. lol [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Somehow, I wouldn't clasify allowing yourself to die by not killing someone else as suicide. That's like if someone was going to kill my mother and I took the bullet for her. That's not suicide, that's just love, slick. -Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted February 23, 2003 Author Share Posted February 23, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Justin [/i] [B] That's not suicide, that's just love, slick. -Justin [/B][/QUOTE] Actually it is suicide, it's just accepted to be more right. Assuming you die from the shot afterall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syk3 Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Harry [/i] [B]Why would it be wrong if they don't consent though?? You're only doing it to survive, there's no hatred or malice. [/B][/QUOTE] "Oh, well, if you're doing it to survive, then go right ahead and kill me." Lol, you have to realize that they are trying to survive as well, and maybe even try to eat you. Unless they're already dead or have consented to this (o_O), then the act would appear to be out of hatred to survive. I really don't think that this would be right. I'd just stay alive as long as I can; I can't even drink a glass of milk with a black spec in it for crying out loud! Imagine how I'd feel about eating a person. *shudders* I don't want other people eating me either though. :shifty: I know that sounds incredibly greedy, but...yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted February 23, 2003 Author Share Posted February 23, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i] [B][color=#808080]If my friend was still alive...no. If they were dead...no. [/color] [/B][/QUOTE] What if it wasn't a friend? If it isn't a friend does it make it a little less horrifying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juu Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 [color=ff00cc] [size=1]ew-ew-ew-ew-ew!!!! ><;;;; *faints* That's just... gross. I would rather starve than eat one of my friends because I'm hungry. oO; I'd rather die than kill on of my friends too. I mean... ew. That's just disturbing to think about eating another person. [/color] [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 The way I see it, if I die, and someone eats me, that's their business. I won't care one way or the other at that point. But I would [i]hope[/i] I'd have the resolve and fortitude to [i]not[/i] eat the person I was with, whether they were dead or not. If I found myself unable to do it on my own, I can always fall on God for strength. -Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiroMunkie Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James[/i] [B][color=#808080]Can you imagine slicing off and eating the flesh of your own [i]friend[/i]?[/color][/b][/quote][color=indigo][size=1]Yes. I met one of my best friends when I stabbed him in the leg with a pencil. That was in the fifth grade. Haha, I got in quite a bit of trouble with the school and his parents for that. ^^ Not to mention I am a biter.[/color][/size][quote][b][color=#808080]You would have to be severely insane to do anything like that...regardless of your circumstances. lol[/color][/B][/QUOTE][color=indigo][size=1]Heh... well, I would rather not get into that. I am aware you were not talking to me in that response, but it was respondable. So I did. o.o[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 If I'm going to die if I don't eat something, you're damn right i'm gonna eat little billy over there or grandma here. lol, I'm not dying to feed them. SOmeone is gonna have to be sacraficed or we'll all die. However, if it was just canabalism in no tense... like I'm at Burger King and I decide to eat the cashier, thats a little... different. It's a choice then, when you have to eat something to survive and that only something is another human being, then there is no choice. I'd be the first in line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 [color=red] Although as sick and dire as this situation you have presented is, I believe there's nothing wrong with canibalism under [i]duress[/i] or [i]need[/i]. I mean, we humans are just animals. It's only our brains that make us so different. So pretty much, it's just like eating maybe say...hamburger. Or almost any kind of meat...raw I'm saying in this situation? The survived survive, the weak fear and die. But can you imagine taking your lips and touching the skin of a dead friend. Can you imagine even touching and tasting the raw sinews and nerve endings, the rough muscle and organic tissue. I sure can't. It's stoo gruesome of a sight to me. A very gruesome sight. So really, I need to be true with myself. I couldn't even [i]stomach[/i] let alone even get myself to lay one tooth bite on a friend, nor any human being. But in the situation you presented, I don't see at as wrong. It's surviving. But if you did make it out of there, then you would get consequences for your actions, no matter if it was under duress or not.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted February 23, 2003 Author Share Posted February 23, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mitch [/i] [B][color=red] Although as sick and dire as this situation you have presented is, I believe there's nothing wrong with cannibalism under [i]duress[/i] or [i]need[/i]. I mean, we humans are just animals. It's only our brains that make us so different. So pretty much, it's just like eating maybe say...hamburger. Or almost any kind of meat...raw I'm saying in this situation? The survived survive, the weak fear and die.[/b][/quote] You can eat beef raw and live, now chicken is a totally different story. [quote]But can you imagine taking your lips and touching the skin of a dead friend. Can you imagine even touching and tasting the raw sinews and nerve ending, the rough muscle and organic tissue. I sure can't. It's stoo gruesome of a sight to me. A very gruesome sight.[/quote] It's the same as openning up a cow. Can you imagine touching the guts of a cow and the rough muscle and organice tissue? Also you wouldn't eat the skin. [quote]But if you did make it out of there, then you would get consequences for your actions, no matter if it was under duress or not. [/B][/QUOTE] Why? I doubt the coroner's would be able to tell you how the person died if you fileted them properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 So I guess your the first person to ever be stranded in the desert with no worries about water? Um yea, I wouldn't worry about the eating part cause your gonna die of dehydration first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted February 23, 2003 Author Share Posted February 23, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by gokents [/i] [B]So I guess your the first person to ever be stranded in the desert with no worries about water? [/B][/QUOTE] Exactly, this is that perfect world (besides the fact that you're lost in a desert) where water isn't a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by gokents [/i] [B]So I guess your the first person to ever be stranded in the desert with no worries about water? Um yea, I wouldn't worry about the eating part cause your gonna die of dehydration first. [/B][/QUOTE] I agree you can live about 2 weeks without food and only a week without water.. or so says the health teacher at school.. I would be worried about water. Plues i never eat. No breakfast, No lunch, And i rarely eat dinner or snacks...So heh.. I would not worry about food... But gokents this is a thread about cannabalisim.... he's asking about the whole eating people. but you're right I'd worry more about water... then food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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