why is it empty?

[vegeta rocker]

whats your take on revenge? Can it mortally corrupt a soul? Sometimes i just can't help taking revenge on someone.
It ends up dominating my thoughts and gives me this empty pleasure. So have you ever been addicted to it? Thats why i am so into anime and games with revenge as such a strong theme. Like Argentosoma and Shenmue and Devil May cry.

so tell your addiction or lack of.

[TheShinje]

I have a lack of an addiction to revenge, for my beliefs, i believe it can be sweet for a while, but after all, isn't it just stooping to the level of whoever you are taking revenge upon. Personally, i would feel like sh** if i stooped to their level.

They say revenge is a dish best seved cold, I say revenge is a dish best served not at all ~_^

[Harry]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by vegeta rocker [/i]
[B]whats your take on revenge? Can it mortally corrupt a soul? Sometimes i just can't help taking revenge on someone.
It ends up dominating my thoughts and gives me this empty pleasure. So have you ever been addicted to it? Thats why i am so into anime and games with revenge as such a strong theme. Like Argentosoma and Shenmue and Devil May cry.

so tell your addiction or lack of. [/B][/QUOTE]
Revenge is great. It should be on your shoulders to avenge a death, not the government. The government allows murderers to walk free because of stupid loopholes. Also, Revenge builds Character, none of which kids have these days.

[Cora Jane 2]

[color=blue]Well, [u]revenge[/u] is something that I love, although, I suppose it could get me in trouble later, but I have something that I am currently working on, because of their stupidity. But anywho, revenge is sweet, and it is fun to get even. I like to put others through what they did to me, and if they hurt me emotionally, they better be prepared for some majoy reprecussions. I am not a nice person when I get mad, especially if I have given fair warning to the person that they have made me mad once, and not to do it again. See most people I know do not agree with the thought of giving a warning, before threats, or well violence. I just give a warning, and if they continue to be stupid, they pay the price. Sometimes it is just a simple punch in the gut, otherwise, a broken nose or ribs... lol (once in a great while). I guess it also depends on what you do to make me mad. I might just taint your reputation, as a few people I know have expereinced.

When you have friends with "Connections" and you yourself have "Connections" people tend to watch out for what they do, and anymore people do not mess with me, or my friends, and if they do, they meet some "Connections..." but hey, when you give a warning, things are fair game! [/color]

[Corey]

I never have an empty feeling after satisfying my need for revenge. It gives me a warm supirior glow. It never leaves me feeling empty.

I don't believe I'm addicted to it. I just like to fullfill the 'What goes around comes around" saying. Im the "What comes around" and usually I make it worse.

It's fun plotting things that you know will hurt someone.

[Rhys Mayiessen]

[color=skyblue]I don't think Revenge is a good thing. I've never gotten revenge on someone that has hurt me. I think its just wrong to hurt someone back because they did it to you. It just shows you that you are as low as them and will sink to their level. That's why I don't need revenge. Its just mean to hurt another person's feelings or actually hurt them physically[/color]

[Delian]

I think the best revenge is when you do something to make the other person feel guilt or remorse for what they did. It doesn't mean you have to lower yourself to their level or to inflict physical pain. Sometimes the best revenge is to walk away and not have anything to do with them.
I'm only referring to people that you know or are close to you.

[Darkmoon]

Revenge is something that I barely ever do (not because I don't want to, just either don't know how to take it out on 'em or don't get the chance). When I do take revenge on someone I feel good for a little while then I slowly feel somewhat guilty for a little while. Then it goes back to feelin' good about myself ^^;;

eh, my stupid concious (sp?) always get's in the way...

But to be honest I feel it's wrong.

[Heaven's Cloud]

[color=indigo]For me, revenge has always been a double edged sword. I always feel guilty when I do get even with someone, but when I don't, I tend to dwell on the situation way to much. [/color]

[Charles]

Revenge is a hollow pleasure; it might feel good for a brief period of time, but the ends rarely justify the means. I mean, revenge only adds to wrongs, it doesn't erase them or their effects.

Plus, as Rhys said, taking vengeance upon someone else only brings you down to their level. It makes the victim [i]become[/i] the very person that hurt them in the first place. The consequences of that can be heavy on one's conscience (i.e., strong feelings of guilt and self loathing). So, in many ways, revenge can corrupt someone worse than the wrongs inflicted upon them in the first place.

I'm human though, I'm not a saint. I can't honestly say that I wouldn't want vengeance if someone did something particularly hurtful or damaging to myself or my family. Human emotion overrides logic sometimes.

[tabmow]

Revenge is empty because it is a solitary feeling. You get revenge because of something some one does to you. As the reciepient of another's wrong doing you have a choice.

1) You can ignore it ( they are not that important anyway)

2) You can try to fix the problem ( This constructive approach make you feel better with lots of warm fuzzies and serve the benefit of - if the initial wrong doer reacts negativly to your positive attempts they just look stupider and you look better-- ie this is the approach that says in one does you a wtong being nice to them is the beast revenge)

3) or you can chose the dark path if one hurts you hurt them back but worse. then theyt hurt you back or pull the warm fuzzy trick and make you look like an idiot. ( now if two people pull the warm fuzzy revenge then thats just too much ) but evil bad revenge is basically empty because it is generally perpetrate buy the one seeking revenge and usually only seems rational from the point of view of the revenge seeker and not the general population. If you persist in your revenge it makes you seem irrational,slightly crazy, and consumes you until your are eaten up inside and become a bitter revenge shell because all you think of are negative thoughts. Revenge is like a candy bar it taste good and first and may even perk you up, but in the long run it is just full of empty calories that if consumed for too long will just destroy you if that is all you survive on.

[PiroMunkie]

[color=indigo][size=1]I personally agree with Charles. Revenge will only leave you satisfied for so long, but it does not solve anything.

Someone could very easily take revenge on you for taking revenge on them, and then you would take revenge on them for taking revenge on you for taking revenge on them. It would just be a vicious cycle getting worse and worse each time until one of them could finally just say, "Screw it, it takes a bigger person to just walk away." It is better to get things stopped before they even start, because it is only going to get harder and harder to walk away the deeper you go into it.[/color][/size]

[Harry]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by PiroMunkie [/i]
[B][color=indigo][size=1]
Someone could very easily take revenge on you for taking revenge on them, and then you would take revenge on them for taking revenge on you for taking revenge on them. [/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE]
Not if you revenge harder.

[Guest cloricus]

Harry, just reading some of your posts. This is in no way criticising your opinions (I have nothing against your views), just you. Are you stupid or what?
You seem to have little to no culture and the outlooks you do present are the average for a five year old, and I've seen better from some five year olds. How about you go out and learn more on the topics you are trying to talk about so you understand the basic concepts behind them and the reasoning to them. Then come back and have a civilised and informed discussion with us. (That is if you are not five.)

As for the topic, there are times when revenge is great and others when it is very dangerous. For example, if some one does something to me on the net I know if I would successfully get them back, if I knew I couldn't I wouldn't bother. As for times when it was dangerous. An example would be if you knew the other person wouldn't take it as you just getting them back and took it a step further. It is a bad situation to be in.
Some times you just have to let it slide and some times its good for you. (Though no revenge should be worse than the original and I don?t agree with the ?you took there life we take your life? attitude. That is how pre-civilised cultures dealt with these matters, I?d like to think we have gone past this thinking. *Excuses America*)

[The Harlequin]

[font=gothic][color=crimson]I was going to say something about Cloricus's post, but then I read that last line....Ah, poetic justice, coming from Cloricus. Once again, we have proved the existance of irony...


Anyway...Revenge for me depends on the original circumstances. Things like the hicks at school, for example, are easily revenged on. Basically, you sit back, and think that come the 10 year reunion, you're going to be driving a great car, living in a great house, making a hell of a lot of money, completely satisfied, while they're going to walk in from the farm with a two year old shirt on, shitkickers, and a pair of jeans so torn and muddy they couldn't be used for a rag. And it'll be the best they've got. They'll be able to speak cow better than human, and their IQ will have decreased exponentially.

Most amusing.

But in other circumstances...I do believe there is a satisfying feeling involved when the other person realises that everything has just come crashing down around them. To me though, it's just a game. One with occasionally nasty consequences, but a game never the less.


Like what Raven and Butterfly are gonna get when I'm through with them...[/font][/color]

[Sui Generis]

Revenge...

Revenge is a guilty pleasure for most people. I mean whats better than teaching people a lesson. Showing them what they did to you! Hurting them as much as they hurt you!

Well guess what taking revenge on someone hurts you too. People see that and they know you are weak. Even if you've got the "connections" it makes you look even worse. Why put yourself through something that in the end just makes you look worse? I don't understand it.

When I see someone trying to take revenge on someone else, I don't see the normal kind, caring person they are. I see a person full of malice and hatred, someone noone wants to be around.

Its a huge turn off if you will to me. Revenge is the act of hatred, the act of jealousy, and the act of resentment. The point of revenge is stupid, becuase after you've taken revenge then they have to get revenge.

Its an endless cycle of hatred....if you want to be apart of that go ahead.

[Lady Macaiodh]

[color=darkblue]In my experience, it leads to a cycle of endless abuse. Damn, this is hard to talk about. My (soon-to-be-ex) husband still sometimes says that he had the right to beat me over something that happened once. But he gets offended very easily & holds a grudge forever. I used to have a liberal view of revenge, but not anymore. I just had to remember the terror I continuously felt.[/color]

[PiroMunkie]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Harry[/i]
[B]Not if you revenge harder.[/B][/QUOTE][color=indigo][size=1]Then they can just return their own revenge harder than you gave it to them. It really does not matter.[/color][/size]

[TheShinje]

Here is a question for those like me who swear they would never take revenge...

What if Osama bin laden came door knocking at your house, looking for asylum (spelling), and you had a gun, would the temptation bet great enough for you to shoot the bastard, or would you hand him in to the police or FBI?

I know, I know it won't happen :rolleyes: but say it does? :worried: :nervous: I'd probaly give in to temptation, and I'm half a world away from New York.

[PiroMunkie]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by S@bretooth[/i]
[B]Here is a question for those like me who swear they would never take revenge...

What if Osama bin laden came door knocking at your house, looking for asylum (spelling), and you had a gun, would the temptation bet great enough for you to shoot the bastard, or would you hand him in to the police or FBI?[/B][/QUOTE][color=indigo][size=1]Pfft, never underestimate the power of apathy. I would invite him in for a pizza or something. Since I also have a gun in this scenario, we could compare marksmanship, heh. If he is polite enough to actually knock on the door and not just blow it down, then he might be worthwhile company. It might be interesting to here things he has to say as well. One can get tired of hearing what America thinks.

:p

For those of you that think I am joking, I am not.

Now if he had a gun too, and there was clear and present danger I would shoot him; but merely out of self-defense.[/color][/size]

[The Unholy Newt]

I don't believe in revenge. I am comforted in the fact that whatever the ba$tard has done, I know that I am better than he is (or she, depending on the circumstances). Also they will get what coming to them, i.e karma.

Also there is the vicious cycle of vengeance. I'll bring it back to medieval times. You get into a fight with a man in a tavern, you kill him. His son, enraged kills you. And in turn, your son kills the other man's son, and so on. Eventually they all go Romeo & Juliet on each other, two families constantly at war with each other. They kill 5 of your men, you kill 10 of theirs kind of thing. It is pointless.

And Harry, I'm sorry, but you really are an idiot. I am told all the time to respect my elders, but come on. You have some serious growing up to do.

~TUN

[vegeta rocker]

i agree with Piromunkie, that it just begins a cycle that become harder and harder to stop. But then again just because you agree with something doesn't mean you will follow in what it means. A lot of people believe or know something is wrong and just do it anyway. Take for example the rule in the bible to only sleep with someone when you marry them. Lots of people in church have done it anyway. Thats just an example and not meant to start a religious debate, by the way.