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1) how did u feel when u knew the end of DBZ was coming? It's really close now, over here in the UK, and it kinda feels anti-climatic. I remember watching it and thinking how crap it was, then i got hooked. That must've been about 2, 3 years ago, back in the Freiza saga when that was starting out, Goku being killed for the first time. But it just feels anti-climatic, probably cuz i dont want it to end, lol


2) todays episode ended with the martials arts tournoment starting, with a balding Hercule being garunteed victory (how annoying is that?!) As DBGT {:rolleyes:} starts on Monday, it wont be showing too much of the tournoment. So i was just wondering for a spoiler request, to be told what happens in it. What happens to Goku, Vegeta, Goten, Trunks and so on.
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[color=indigo][size=1][b]1.[/b] DragonBall Z ended a long tim ago. :p

Heh, actually, I have missed a majority of the Buu Saga because Toonami took it off the Midnight Run (cheap bastards). So, for me, I still have a while for it to "end". I do not have the money to buy the episodes, nor do I have the preferred connection to download them.

[b]2.[/b] I am not totally understanding your question here... there have been many martial arts tournaments, and I doubt I have seen the necessary episodes to give you some accurate response. From my knowledge, if my guess as to what you are talking about is correct, they never really tell you what happens; but I could be wrong.[/color][/size]
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You're right at the end of DBZ. It doesn't really end in any way, it just preludes to more really.

The martial arts tourny at the end of DBZ has all the fighters fighting. [spoiler]You just see quick screen shots of little peices of battles in the last episode where Gokou flies off with Ubuu. Mr. Satan and Buu have a pact where Buu wins and then throws the match to Mr. Satan and Mr. Satan ives him things like lots of food lol.[/spoiler] Thats about it... the last 4 episodes of DBZ are manly for humour purposes and to enlighten to a next series. Thats it.
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thanks, and Piro, the tournoment i'm meaning is the one to the very end. There can't really be many more episodes left, only tomorrows and Fridays because DBGT starts here on Monday.



[b]one question i forgot[/b] : Goku talks about a guy supressing his powers, hiding them, and he'll be in the tournoment, and "earthling" who is it?

I'm guessing Goten, as he's half human?
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Basically uubu is the reincarnation of buu. (gokou asked for it after the whole buu thing so he could find out once and for all who was stronger)

Uubu is the human kid gokou talks about hiding his power.

Gokou and uubu fight and eventually gokou flys, uubu is amazed and gokou realizes uubu will never use his full potential unless he is properly trained.

Uubu hops on gokou's back and the two fly off "to become stronger"! at uubu's home island where gokou will train him.

Everyone gets to say goodbye to gokou.

Pan beats goten in the tournament and buu lets satan win the title.


Thats about it... heres a pic for you to get the picture...
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I think somebody should have beaten Mr.satan during the series.I mean man how many brakes can one man have!!!!

Ubuu could have beat him a new one but he lets him slid.The only one that didn't go soft on him was Trunks and they thougt he was playing grrrr....blah that sucks I wanted to see him get his!!
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yea, i got sick of Hercule always winning, and bragging about how great he is. To start with it was kinda funny, but when it dragged out as long as it did, it got lame

& thanks for the pics

another thing i dont like, is how soft Gohan became
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I think the rest of the world should have seen who weak Hercule really was, but I guess you can't win them all.

P.S.
I don't think anybody likes how soft Gohan became. He really had potential to be the strongest out of everybody because of his hidden power, but when Goku died and didn't come back, his mother always made him studying. Books will make even Gohan go soft, especially after how many years Gohan went without training, but just studying.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Goku213 [/i]
[B]thanks, and Piro, the tournoment i'm meaning is the one to the very end. There can't really be many more episodes left, only tomorrows and Fridays because DBGT starts here on Monday.



[b]one question i forgot[/b] : Goku talks about a guy supressing his powers, hiding them, and he'll be in the tournoment, and "earthling" who is it?

I'm guessing Goten, as he's half human? [/B][/QUOTE]

God help you all...the first 20 or so eps of DBGT are the most boring *** DB episodes in the world..good lord.
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If I can make a suggestion to you Goku213, don't bother watching Dragon Ball GT, any love or respect you have for the genre known as Dragon Ball will be flushed away. In all reality -_- you should just consider the ending of DBZ to be the end. The last half of DBZ was stale to begin with, as for Dragon Ball GT it just keeps getting worse and overly redundant. If you really must watch it though the last half of the series from about Episode 30 or so on, is somewhat decent.
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[color=darkblue]Now that we're talking about the last part of DBZ, I have a question or two.

How in the heck did Vegeta & Goku end up fusing? They're both dead, so someone tell me the story, please. & how do they both get wished back if they've already died twice? & where on earth was Vegeta all this time? You'd think he'd've been hanging around with Gohan, Goku & the Kais or something, but he was just off somewhere.

Don't blame me for missing these past few weeks, I've been sleeping a lot due to pregnancy exhaustion. ;)[/color]
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Ok, lady! (ha ha, that sounds like additude when taken out of context)

After gohan and supreme Kai had a run in with buu, they both ended up on the planet of the Kais to remove and train with the Z sword.

Gokou was granted a single day of life on earth by the grand kai for other reasons. (kai wanted to avoid going into training with gokou)

After gokou's time ran up, he went to the after world, upon his arrival he inquired about gohans "status."

Gokou learned that gohan was alive and then sensed him on the kai's planet.

He went to where gohan was and stayed with gohan while gohan was training.

During this training with the sword, gohan broke the z sword and released an imprisoned kai from it.

This was the elder kai.

Elder Kai had the ability to release a persons latent powers.

The kai preformed this on gohan and the result was mystic gohan; a gohan more powerful than a ss3 with out any transformation.

Gohan returned to earth and gave buu a beating, buu was out classed.
buu retreated.
He came back with a plan though...

obsorb gotenks.

Once buu obsorbed gotenks on earth, king yemma and both of the kais with gokou started to worry. (supreme and elder kai)

Gohan who returned to earth as "mystic gohan" was getting beat down and everyone could tell he needed help.

Yemma took action by bringing vegeta back to life and sending him to earth, and gokou also received life.

The elder kai had given his own life to gokou so he could return to earth to help gohan.

As gokou left, the kai asked about gokou's plan... realizing gokou had no plan, the kai gave gokou the " portia earrings." (I believe thats the name)

The earrings would preform a permanant fusion for any two people who wore them.

The fusion would create a single being, and would yeild greater results than the fusion dance ever would.


With the earrings gokou returned to earth with the intention of fusing with gohan and creating the most powerful being ever. (I can only imagine, but maybe a good fanfic)

Unfortuantly, gohan made a mistake and didnt catch the earring thrown to him by gokou.

Buu had obsorbed gotenks to achieve his power... this power ran out after the thirty minute time limit for the fusion.

Before gohan got the earring on, buu transformed to a less powerful form because of gotenks' fusion inside of buu wearing off.

Seeing this, gokou asked that gohan not use the earring.

Mistake.

Buu manages to obsorb gohan and becomes far more powerful than before.

Just as gokou is about to go insane thinking of a person to fuse with in lack of a gohan sub, vegeta arrives on earth by means of king yemma's attempt at helping out in the fight.

Gokou senses the pressence of vegeta and eventually vegeta swallows his pride after being reminded of his loss of bulma and every other loved one. (Trunks and maybe a few friends)

They fuse using the earrings...

Vegetto.

(note that this is not gogeta, the fusion of gokou and vegeta during movie 12/ "the rebirth of fusion." A fusion of the two by way of the fusion dance.)

So that is how veggeto was created, hope that answered the question fully.;)

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Oh yea! back while gohan and supreme kai were fighting buu, just after buu's hatching, gokou and vegeta fought each other.

Upon realizing he wouldnt win, vegeta snuck a cheap shot in and knocked gokou out. During that gohan and the Kai were defeated by buu.

Vegeta showed up after this defeat and gave his life to destroy buu. (failed attempt at releasing all his energy in one blast, which would hopfully kill buu... it didn't.)

Thats how vegeta died and thats the story for the prelude to the stuff I wrote above.
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the biggest bust in the rpg is how Trunks an Goten go from the saiyans with the mos potential

go to the regular teenage boys -_-

I mean Goten geting girls now hat was cool but they stoped training and ended up blah like regular guys not even making it t ssj2 on their own
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by gokents [/i]
[B]
Yemma took action by bringing vegeta back to life and sending him to earth, and gokou also received life.
[/B][/QUOTE]

[COLOR=darkblue]Wait a second. Then how come Vegeta has a halo back on earth & not Goku?

Also, I knew Veggie was dead, I wanted to know if he went to hell or what. Usually people go to King Kai's to train if they've been good. I was kind of curious as to whether or not Vegeta's final act made up for anything.[/COLOR]
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Well actually no, vegeta made up for nothing and went to burn in hell like the best of them. :D

About the halo though, I dont really remember veg having a halo.

I will look into it, and based on that, I will reply again.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Lady Macaiodh [/i]
[B][color=darkblue]Yeah, he does. I've been watching the last few days, which prompted the questions. It's like he's dead but Goku isn't. Weird. Seems like it'd be hard to fuse.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE]

[font=trebuchet ms][color=darkblue]Vegeta had the halo only because Emma transported Vegeta to Earth. He didn't bring him back to life. I don't remember exactly how, but towards the end, when Vegeta cooks up a plan to bring the people of the Earth back to life with the dragon balls, he is revived as well as a result of one of the wishes.[/color][/font]
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Of course, how could I have not thought of that...

Oh maybe its because the only episodes I haven't seen are the final ones of the kid buu saga.

If you think about it, Im sure vegeta ask to be brought back with all of earths inhabitants who died after buu was brought to life.

Of course I dont really know and thats just my guess.

O well, could someone fill us in one the wish that brings veg back to life?
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Lady Macaiodh [/i]
[B][color=darkblue]It does not make sense that Veggie was revived by the Earth's dragonballs because he specifically was revived by them back on Namek (which brought Guru back so they could wish everyone off Namek but Furiza and Goku).

Am I right, people![/color] [/B][/QUOTE]

[font=trebuchet ms][color=darkblue]*Is too lazy to put the Mexican tapes on*

Well, remember that Dende recreated the dragon balls, so maybe every rule started from zero. Also, I'm not sure if they used the dragon balls from New Namek, rather than the Earth ones.

Plus, if you count how many times Krillin has been revived, you'd see that the 'rules' sometimes change. :)[/color][/font]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Lady Macaiodh [/i]
[B][color=darkblue]It does not make sense that Veggie was revived by the Earth's dragonballs because he specifically was revived by them back on Namek (which brought Guru back so they could wish everyone off Namek but Furiza and Goku).

Am I right, people![/color] [/B][/QUOTE]

Vegita and the earthlings were revived by Namek's dragonballs in the Buu saga. When Buu destroyed Earth, its dragonballs were destroyed.

After the Furiza fiasco, the Nameks upgraded Purunga so that he could restore multiple lives simultaneously. During the final stages of the battle against Buu, everyone who was killed since the tournament, with the exception for the truly wicked, are wished back to life.

Because Vegeta's life is restored, it is clear that he has become one of the "good guys."

That should clear things up. :smirk:
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