What do you think abouit this.

[p3rfuk3ed]

[SIZE=4]....Plz comment and tell me what you think....[/SIZE]

We had a very heated conversation in Human Sexuality today about homosexuality/bi-sexuality. Someone from the Gay & Lesbian Community Center came to speak to us today. The first thing he did when he walked into the room was write five words on the board: SPIC KYKE CHINC N****er CUNT. I sat in shock after he turned around and I saw what he had written. Then he turned to the class and said, "What do these words all have in common?" "They're derogatory," someone said. "They're demeaning." "They're insults." Then he turned around and wrote Gay[it makes it all ***'s sorry.. ] on the board. "And what about this one?" And the guy who's always making rude comments and being obnoxious said, "What about that one?" "You don't consider this one an insult?" "Only if someone's using it to refer to me." After that the guy asked everyone to throw out some insults/slang that they used or heard someone use when referring to homosexuals. He quickly started writing them out on the board. He then asked to throw out words that referred to people who were heterosexual. I thought it was interesting to see that the only four words that people could come up with were: NORMAL STRAIGHT MALE FEMALE, whereas the whole left side of the board was full of insults and derogatory phrases and words. The guy then started telling about his experience about being gay and after that the whole class period was spent just talking about homosexuality and bi-sexuality, whether it was wrong, immoral, whether or not people accepted it. The one guy who's always making rude comments asked the man a question: "So if there was something you could do to make you straight, would you do it?" "No, absolutely not. If I were to do something like that, it would take a piece of who I am away. It would be changing my identity." "But, you're asking for acceptance, so if you want to be accepted, wouldn't you try to change yourself to fit in?" "I want people to accept me as I am, not the way I would be if I did something to change myself." Rude Guy kept saying that if there was a way for all gay people to change themselves that they should do it. He said, "If there was way that I could change myself into a white man, or into a taller person, I'd do it. So I think if gays want to be accepted, they should do something to change themselves if the option was available." And then surprisingly, I spoke up because what he was saying was really starting to piss me off. I said, "You're treating homosexuality as if it's a disease. It's not a disease, it's who a person is." I just thought the whole lecture and discussion was interesting and what was also interesting was to see so many reactions and opinions in such a small class. There's only about 10 people in that class, yet all the arguments and discussions they were throwing out felt as if I were in a class with 100 people. I've never ever felt comfortable with my own sexuality until recently. I grew up, raised in a Catholic home with parents who said that being gay or lesbian was immoral, was wrong and a sin yet that always seemed to contradict what they always told me: be accepting of all people, regardless of their skin color, their religion, ethnicity. But I guess being accepting of another person's sexuality wasn't part of that equation. Honestly, I don't care if a person is gay, straight, bi, whatever because that's their life and who am I to dictate what another person does with their life? And even though I love being with a man, I've always been attracted to females in a sense and could even picture myself being with a female on a romantic and sexual level. I don't know if that makes me bi, or bi-curious, but I've always felt that way, even when I was younger. Don't get me wrong, I love the male body. I love making love to my boyfriend, it's one of the most beautiful feelings that I've ever experienced. But I also love the female body, every part of it. It's so intricate, and beautiful, and complex and I could spend hours looking at it. And I know that if I were ever to bring this up to any of my family or friends, they'd look at me as if I were some kind of freak which saddens me because why should it even matter? I could go on and on about this subject but I'm already late for class. This is one of the reasons why I love my Human Sexuality class. It always gets me thinking about these types of things.


what are your feelings on this..

[Sara]

[size=1]First, I read all that.

Second, it'd be easier for everyone else to read if you broke it into paragraphs.

I think it's very neat that you were able to have this kind of discussion. I've wanted to be able to discuss this subject with some of my friends and/or in a classroom situation, but opportunities tend to be limited.

When I did try to talk to someone about it, he became convinced I was gay and wouldn't talk to me for about two weeks. That was... painful.

Maybe a person's sexuality shouldn't matter, but trust me, it can. I think I'd better shut up before I get upset.[/size]

[DuoMax]

That rude guy sounds like a real **** head.

[p3rfuk3ed]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DuoMax [/i]
[B]That rude guy sounds like a real **** head. [/B][/QUOTE]

oh belive me.. he is ~.~ Hes rude to all the people in our class.

[Sara]

[size=1]The world is full of them, unfortunately. They may be rude bastards, but they're rude bastards en masse, and tend to make themselves known, loudly.

Hopefully you won't become jaded to their attitude. [/size]

[Transtic Nerve]

It's usually the uneducated that are so rude in situations such like that. Eventually you learn to ignore them, and eventually, although sometimes never, they realize how completely stupid they are.

[Semjaza]

There is a guy simliar to this in my Sociology class, which I actually have tomorrow. It's three hours long each week, so everyone has to put up with this moron. Only one other guy seems to agree with any of his viewpoints.

He is one of those people who somehow feels he is oppressed simply because he is black and the world owes it to him. He seems to have absolutely no examples of people treating him this way in his own actual life. He constantly contradicts himself... For example, complaining about racism and stereotypes, but then making comments of those types about other races. He drives me nuts.

It wouldn't be so bad if he shut his mouth for once. The sad thing is that this guy is like 30 something when the rest of us are mostly like 20 (with some exceptions). I guess some things never change.

He is good for some laughs though. For one reason during a discussion, he got up and whispered something to the teacher. Then he wrote on the board:

"Keep your friends close, and your enemies close"

Of course that's not how it goes, and it just proves easily that the guy thinks he is intelligent and witty when he really has no clue about anything around him.

Such is life.

[Dragon Fou Lu]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Semjaza Azazel [/i]
[B]"Keep your friends close, and your enemies close"[/B][/QUOTE]

i always thought it was

"keep your friends close and your enemies closer?"

EDIT: ok i missed a line so this part was a waste

anyway back on topic:
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sounds like this rude person has a weird problem first of all (if i've read everything right! :p) he seems to be insulting homosexuals yet he is one. isn't he insulting himself if this is the case? :confused:

and telling people to change to be accepted isn't going to work. even hetrosexuals aren't excepted by others at times because of their hair or their interests or something. so in other words he isn't making that much sense. :sleep:

P.s if i've made a mistake about this i'll edit my post! :(

[wrist cutter]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Dragon Fou Lu [/i]
[B]i always thought it was

"keep your friends close and your enemies closer?"
[/B][/QUOTE]

Read the next line in his post...

[Ravenstorture]

A Poison Tree
William Blake

I was angry with my friend:
I told my wrath, my wrath did end.
I was angry with my foe;
I told it not, my wrath did grow.

And I water'd it in fears,
Night & morning with my tears;
And I sunned it with my smiles
And with soft deceitful wiles.

And it grew both day and night,
Till it bore an apple bright;
And my foe beheld it shine,
And he knew that it was mine,

And into my garden stole
When the night had veil'd the pole:
In the morning glad I see
My foe outstretch'd beneath the tree.

This is my mantra.

edit: And keeping to the topic of the thread, this is to do with the rude guy. I think everyone knows my position on homosexuality (especially after this poem.)

[Duo Maxwell]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by p3rfuk3ed [/i]
[B]"You're treating homosexuality as if it's a disease. It's not a disease, it's who a person is." [/B][/QUOTE]

I find myself saying this to heaps of people at my school.
You see most of the girls have a major problem with lesbians, being a single sex school most of them think that you'll either get hit on by a lesbian or become one.

Someone said in math once: "I don't understand why anyone (meaning girls) would choose to be gay when there are guys."
Of course I educated her on the fact that no one chooses to be gay. She honestly thought it was a choice.

I've also had many arguments with one friend about Homosexuals and Bisexuals. She hates them for no actual reason, and I don't think that's fair, and it also hurts me because I feel that if she thinks this way she'll reject me as a friend if I ever do tell her I'm bi.

But really there's nothing wrong with your thoughts on the female body, I thought that for ages before I came to terms with my sexuality.

[Guest cloricus]

I mainly have no problem with gay people, I can't stand the ones that are over the top. Though it's their life and I don't have to take notice if I don't want to.

At the moment there is a ban war going on in my home irc server, between the gay's and the Christians. Since awhile ago after a freak meeting with some of the gay people there I am now friends with them and helping them. (And I can't stand Christians who discriminate. Also who could pass up the fun of a ban war. :P)
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I'm of the opinion that you can believe what ever you want on the topic, as long as you don't act it out if it is not in the public interest. For example that rude kid in your class.
I have friends that hate gay people, like really hate them. But when they and the gay people i know are talking they don't let it show. Which is fine. Every one is happy.
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And as for the no words for paying out straight people. That is just because you have never payed out your sexual preference before.
There are plenty that gay people use to pay out straight people.

[I asked Chris if he could think of any and the ones he came up with I get the feeling that I would be banned from the boards for posting...]

[Teal bit is my opinion the rest is semi-useless babble.]

Eps - 5 POSTS UNTIL OTAKU!!! ...And I didn't have to spam to get it... (*Looks at Harlequin*)