Parties; Beer; Girls; Sex; Drugs;

[Guest Sushi]

For the record this is Cyko speaking. ^_^

These are just some of the things that have been going on in life about now. I know it is the norm for people around my age ( 13 ). But some of it is just hard to deal with. My parents are pressuring me to stay away from drugs and some people are telling me to do them. I have already expirimented with weed and I got caught. I have been grounded ever since.

I have been going to a lot of parties with people doing drugs, and getting it [b]ON![/b] And while I haven't done [b]it[/b] yet, I have done my share of "stuff". A few days ago my friend's mom walked in while she was supposed to be at work. He was having a semi-party. Nothing bad was going on, music was blaring and a bunch of people were there but that was it. Everybody scrambled out the back door and he came to school with a black eye the next day.

I mean, I love the whole party atmoshpere. But I don't want to get grounded again. Should I keep partying it up, or just be a loser and stay home alone all day?

[wrist cutter]

What makes you so sure you aren't a loser now?

[Guest Sushi]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by wrist cutter [/i]
[B]What makes you so sure you aren't a loser now? [/B][/QUOTE]

You really get off on cutting 13 year old kids down, don't you? ;)

For your question, the way I figure it is if you at least have a few good friends you aren't a loser. And well, I have more then a few good friends.

[Semjaza]

Why in the world have you made another name first of all? Having a couple accounts won't get you on anyone's good side here.

You should be grounded honestly. I know other people say otherwise, but weed is a hell of a lot more bad for your health than cigarettes can be. Smoking one joint is equal to smoking several cigarettes at once. Of course, you can do the whole bong thing... but by that time I think it's safe to say you're a moron.

What do I know though? I don't drink. I don't do drugs. I don't smoke. I'm of legal age to do some of these things, and I still don't. I've seen what this crap does to people firsthand (my dad did coke among other things, he died from something unrelated I suppose you could say), and I don't want to be stupid enough to get into all that. I like to have control over my situation and decisions, even if my choice winds up blowing up in my face.

Partying is cool and all, but you're 13 years old. Have fun, but don't be stupid... save that stuff for when you're old enough to be able to deal with it on a somewhat normal plane. You shouldn't be acting like you're 22 at this age, at least in my opinion. Besides, there are still some good parties around that have a minimal amount of that stuff involved heh.

Go play videogames or go to some concert or hang out with friends or go on dates... party if you want to. Just don't become a freaking burnout.

[Guest Sushi]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Semjaza Azazel [/i]
[B]Why in the world have you made another name first of all? Having a couple accounts won't get you on anyone's good side here.[/B][/QUOTE]

A friend of mine got into my account and changed my password. Not much I can do about it. ^_^

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Semjaza Azazel [/i]
[B]You should be grounded honestly. I know other people say otherwise, but weed is a hell of a lot more bad for your health than cigarettes can be. Smoking one joint is equal to smoking several cigarettes at once. Of course, you can do the whole bong thing... but by that time I think it's safe to say you're a moron.[/B][/QUOTE]

I never said I was fighting the whole me being grounded thing. I don't mind honestly. I don't really care what my parents think. Most of the time I do what I am supposed to do. Almost everyone expiriments at one point.

Anyway, I'll probably just go to parties on weekends. Stay home on the weekdays, hang out with my friends or something.

[Semjaza]

You can get your password emailed to you as far as I know... so you might want to see what that does heh.

I never said you were fighting it, but considering you don't want to be grounded again I don't see why it matters if you were or weren't. Considering you got caught once, I doubt your parents are going to start watching what you do even less than before.

I'm not saying you shouldn't experiment. I don't do this stuff now, but I used to. I'm sure many other people older than you have given you these stupid lectures about this crap, and you'd rather punch them in the face than listen to them. At least I did... All I know, is that you're probably better off just knowing your limits and watching yourself. I know people at your age tend to test their limits and get far past what they should have. You probably won't realize that until you break that limit though, as is the case with most people. Just don't overdo things. That's all.

[Kent]

I say be yourself and most importantly... STAY OUT OF TROUBLE.

I didnt't say not to try out the things you are interested in.

I am an advocate of the de-criminalization of marijuana, but I dont think that "kids" should be doing it.

Listen to your parents for now... but later on, you will be able to make descisions for yourself.

But until you know that and you are old enough to not be sure of it, dont act on your impulses.

Youll understand that last sentence one day... hopefully.

[Transtic Nerve]

[quote][b]What makes you so sure you aren't a loser now?[/b][/quote]

My thoughts precisely.

I think people who are as YOUNG as you who party and do stupid things like you described are losers. No offense, but you are the precise reason I absolutely LOATHE anyone under the age of 16.

[DeathKnight]

[color=crimson][img]http://www.otakuboards.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=368532[/img]
I love OB.
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Just kinda set your own path, which includes boundries for yourself. If you have a good sense of self, and a good knowledge of when the line should not be crossed, and when it might be alright to see whats on the other side of the line, then I say you should keep yourself out in the world to get a taste of the different things it has to offer. If you ever need my help, bro, you know i'm just a bike ride away.

So, to sum it up- Keep yourself safe, but dont be afraid to go and try new things. You might be a bit young, but you wont stay that way for long.[/color]

[Guest Hikaru Ichijyo]

I think I've discussed this with you before, but if I haven't above all things you should be yourself. Wether it makes you look like a loser or not drugs are wrong. The parties, and cutting school activies must stop.

Your heading down a path of destruction, and at your current age set the friends you choose to hang out with will mold your attitude. If you really don't want to end up a Loser in life you have to stop hanging out with these losers that are doing these activies.

If you disagree with me on these views, please at least ask yourself this one question. If those people really are my friends, would they judge or trash me for not doing the same stuff they do?

[Guest Sushi]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Rick Hunter [/i]
[B]I think I've discussed this with you before, but if I haven't above all things you should be yourself. Wether it makes you look like a loser or not drugs are wrong. The parties, and cutting school activies must stop.[/B][/QUOTE]

....[b]o_O;;[/b]

What the hell?

I have never cut school in my life. And how am I on a downward spiral if my grades are good and I am [i]currently[/i] not drinking/smoking, or any of that?

Not to mention they aren't trashing me for not smoking bud. Pressuring and trashing are very differen't.

[Guest Hikaru Ichijyo]

;) I could of sworn a couple of weeks back you told me about this on Aim unless I have the wrong Cyko guy. Too many people running about with smiliar names around here >.>, but either way the trying and experimenting with things such as drugs is really bad, you should try to stay away from that stuff. There's nothing wrong wtih partying but when you mix hazardous things into the mix then there's a problem.

Ugh I sound like a really bad fortune cookie. :blush:

[Guest Sushi]

Yes, I am the Cyko you speak of. I told I got grounded because I got caught while trying weed, for the first time, a month ago.

I don't know where you got the whole cutting school thing from though.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i]
[B]My thoughts precisely.

I think people who are as YOUNG as you who party and do stupid things like you described are losers. No offense, but you are the precise reason I absolutely LOATHE anyone under the age of 16. [/B][/QUOTE]

*thumbs up*

[Lady Asphyxia]

[size=1][color=darkred]I find the [b]my parents were pressuring me to stay away from drugs[/b] part funny. Heh.

You're 13. While I'm not much older [3 months to my 15th birthday ^.^], don't screw yourself up. Cigarettes may be more addictive than weed, but weed messes with your body way worse. [Was that even coherant?]

Heh. Apparently I'm a loser. Wait...I am. But going to parties isn't everything, and if you're getting in trouble for it...[/color][/size]

[Guest cloricus]

[quote]Semjaza Azazel
I know other people say otherwise, but weed is a hell of a lot more bad for your health than cigarettes can be. Smoking one joint is equal to smoking several cigarettes at once. [/quote]

I'd like to discredit this.
The only effect that smoking small amounts of weed (Eg, a few joints a week.) for a guy is that he will be temporarily sterile.
I'm unclear on the effects on women.
I do how ever know that the long term and excessive use of weed is relatively bad for you.
Though a joint is no where near as bad as a cig.

Eps - Credible info from a semi-creditable person. :P

[Transtic Nerve]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by cloricus [/i]
[B]I'd like to discredit this.
The only effect that smoking small amounts of weed (Eg, a few joints a week.) for a guy is that he will be temporarily sterile.
I'm unclear on the effects on women.
I do how ever know that the long term and excessive use of weed is relatively bad for you.
Though a joint is no where near as bad as a cig.

Eps - Credible info from a semi-creditable person. :P [/B][/QUOTE]

Few joints a week over the period of 20 years will do a HELL of alot more to you than being temporaily sterile. If I smoked a pack of cigarrettes right now and never smoked again, it wouldn't harm me at all (well perhaps slightly, but not much). I believe the point Semjaza was making would be one of over a period of time not just for a few weeks.

The department of Health would strongly disagree. there's a comercial running on TV now which explains that one joint is equal to 4 cigarrettes. No offense to you or your "source" but I would tend to believe the department of health over you.

Youa re still breathing in smoke, either way, which is obviously not good for you lol. And cigarrettes have filters, joints don't. It's pretty obvious a joint is much worse than a cigarrette. (that would be logical seeing as how marijuana is illegal and tobacco is not)

[Guest cloricus]

[quote]Cloricus
I do how ever know that the long term and excessive use of weed is relatively bad or you.[/quote]
TN I did say that long term use is not good for you.


My sources have been my biology teachers over time. The subject has come up every so often in classes and all of them have said the effects are lesser than cigarettes. (This includes one of them showing us the comparisons between the lungs of some one who smoked cigs and some one who smoked weed. Ewww.. :| )
Also allot of topics I've read and other random information.

I would be wary of an ad campaign, the words "scare tactics" come up in my mind.
Though I don't say they are not true.

A cigarette does an amazing amount of damage to your brain each time you inhale, a joint dose not.

I'm sorry just all the facts that I have read over my life to do with this subject just don't fit in with "marijuana is worse than cigarettes" idea.
Even from the anti-smokers associations papers I've read, they don't rate it worse?

Also, cigars are equal to 10 cigarettes on average. They are legal. So in any case that argument is just not worth saying.

I?m sorry I just can?t see how a joint is worse than a cig with all the stuff I have read.

Eps ? Mmmmm?.

[Transtic Nerve]

It all depends on how you are looking at it. If I smoked weed once, I suppose the over all harmful effect it'd have on me would be subsuquently less than that of ALL the crap in cigarrettes. But over time, like you said, it becomes increasingly harmful to you. Have you ever known anyone who did weed on a regular basis for a year? 2 years? compared to that of a person who smokes cigarretts on a regular basis for a year or 2 years. If you cannot see the incredible difference in the two and still think cigs are still worse for you after that, I'll push you off a building.

[Guest cloricus]

Good comparison.
Thinking about it I know some one that has been "doing" weed for a long time and some one who has been smoking cigs for a long time.
The one who smokes marijuana seems stupider and less attentive.
The one who smokes cigarettes seems light of breath and very tense and jumpy.

I guess they both have their bad effects.
Though I still believe over the short term that a joint is a lot safer than a cig. (Though for people reading this smoking either is not a good idea.)

Eps - Views are dynamic.

[Semjaza]

I don't know how you can discredit something that has been reported fairly recently by various medical journals, but okay.

Also, you have to had in the fact that general joints do not have any sort of filter whatsoever. Most kids don't bother with a pipe, a bong or anything else, and that adds to it even more.

Edit - I just realized I'm dumb and TN said all of this haha.

Anyway, I'll just add in that I was speaking of joints themselves over a semi-regular period. Not just one... then weeks later, a hit off another. I don't consider people who randomly take a couple hits when it's "there" people who really are into that stuff honestly.

[Dan L]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sushi [/i]
[B]And well, I have more then a few good friends. [/B][/QUOTE]

If it weren't for the fact that I'm not that cruel, I would've laughed at that..

If they're the same guys you said were "telling you to do drugs" I wouldn't really call them "good" friends. Friends maybe but heh.. I suppose it's all down to how you define "good"

[Sara]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DeathKnight [/i]
[B][color=crimson][img]http://www.otakuboards.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=368532[/img]
I love OB.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] [SIZE=1]That was great. ^_^

Cyko...Obviously I have no idea what I'm talking about, but what-say you try and stay on the legal side of things for a few more years? ^_~

That is all.[/SIZE]

[Mnemolth]

First filters don't work. Smokers can easily compensate by changing their behaviours. Ever seen a smoker covering the holes with his fingertips? or puffing constantly on the cig?

Second, smoking is bad for you. Whether its weed or a cig, it doesn't matter. Now there are going to be endless arguments about which is worse and so on, but I think, especially in the last decade or so, significant long term and large sample studies have provided a strong and convincing correlation between weed smokers and depression and reduced capacity for mental agility. Whether cig are or are not more harmful than weed is really a moot point since both don't do you any favours.

But lots of things in life don't do you favours. It doesn't mean we avoid them all. It just means we have to be careful. So I'm not gonna preach from some lame-assed pulpit about the evils of this or that. I'll just say be careful, think before you do anything.

And I'm also not gonna say its okay to be by yourself. If you're not comfortable with it (and few are, some just try to convince themselves they are), then its [i]not[/i] OK. Unlike some others, I actually remember what it was like to be 13, and how important it is to feel you belong, to be a part of a group, to have a sense of identity, to have some [i]fun[/i] ffs!

Just remember the cost. Sometimes the price of entry is just too high, in which case I think you should back off. But its different for everyone, so its really up to you.

As for who is a 'loser' or not, well, you want to do dumb things while you're young. Stupid, silly, foolish things that you would never do as an adult. You certainly don't want to end up a frustrated and bitter old man like TN, now do you? ;)

[Charles]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sushi [/i]
[B]A friend of mine got into my account and changed my password. Not much I can do about it. ^_^ [/B][/QUOTE]

I'm really disappointed that you ignored our policy regarding multiple user accounts. The excuse you provided doesn't fly with me. You could have simply told me and I would have fixed the problem. One of your accounts must be deleted. Be sure to let me know which one you want to keep.

As for the topic at hand: The answer doesn't have to be as black and white as you're suggesting. It's possible to party and have fun [i]with moderation[/i]. You don't have to become a monk or live in solitude. Just be responsible. I know that the words "teenager" and "responsible" should never be mentioned in the same breath unless the word "aren't" is in-between them, but it's possible to act intelligently in certain situations.

I can only reiterate what has already been said. There are ways in which you can enjoy yourself with others that don't involve using drugs or doing things that can prove harmful to you. When I was your age, playing sports was a big thing, for instance.

And, you can still party, go to dances, have fun with girls, act silly and experiment with alcohol or whatever. It's all a part of growing up. But, you should know your limits and refrain from smoking weed or going [i]too[/i] far sexually. Being a thirteen year old father wouldn't be too fun.

Living a wild life is always enjoyable until you have to suffer the consequences.

[Heaven's Cloud]

[color=indigo]Oh great another thirteen year old experimenting with sex and drugs. Do me a favor kid, try some really heavy stuff and OD...you'll save all of us hardworking taxpayers some money in the future. You are not old enough to be having sex or experimenting with drugs, let alone partying, why don't you stay at home and derive your "high" through sugar rushes and late night video game marathons. I hate to be the one to break the news to you, but you are a loser, and, by highschool, you'll probably be one of those kids that can't remember his own name.[/color]