The 75th Academy awards

[TheShinje]

[size=1] [color=darkblue]This is the Academy awards discussion thread. Overall, how did you think the nights entertainment went? Did you think that whoever wone their respoective oscars deserved them? Who would you have picked for the Accolades?

I though it was a very entertaining show, albiet quieter and less glamorous because of the damn war. I felt dissapoineted Lord Of the Riungs failed to bring home best picture again[img]http://digilander.iol.it/ilxnucleo/Emoticon/Exsplosion.gif[/img], oh well, maybe next time they will honor it.

Steve Martin was an excellent host. He kept the laughs up, and thats what I like best about the Oscars, the ability for Hollywood to pokje fun at Hollywood. I think the Kodak theatre is an exellent choice of venue too.

I saw quite a bit of anti war sentiment, which was cool. Actors not afraid to spoeak their mind, apparently the hosts and presenters couldn't, but they could (the accepters of the awards) Is that true?

Overall, what did you think of Oscars 75th borthday? [img]http://digilander.iol.it/ilxnucleo/Emoticon/Popcorn.gif[/img][/size] [/color]

[DuoMax]

YA! Go Michael Moore! He had the guts to step up and talk about when everyone else was afraid to!

[Transtic Nerve]

Who won best picture?

Anyway I think Steve Washed up Martin was a crappy host. They seem to always get crappy people to host the show. I mean, it's one thing putting emotion in your jokes, but when you just read off a teleprompter and put no emotion in what you are saying, it' sjust stupid. I had to turn it off during the beginning because it was so horrible.

[Posthumous]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i]
[B]Who won best picture?[/B][/QUOTE]

[color=teal][size=1][b]Chicago won that award.

My opinion is that [i]"The Pianist"[/i] should of won that award.The Pianist won Best Director(Roman Polanski) and Best Actor(Forgot his name!)

[i]The Hours[/i] did preety good too.[/b][/size][/color]

[Change]

hehe I did not watch, but I heard rave reviews from my peers about Michal Moore...You go man, bash Bush!

Edit: Michal Moore speeks out
[url]http://oscars.com/oscarnight/winners/win_32297.html[/url]

[Transtic Nerve]

Tee hee thats funny... I mean... it was literally funny, not funny in a sarcastic way. Oh well, someone had to do it.

[TheShinje]

[size=1][color=darkblue] Here is the winners list for all the awards. This is a spoiler post.

[b]ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE[/b]
Adrien Brody
[i]THE PIANIST [/i]

[b]ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE[/b]
Chris Cooper
[i]ADAPTATION [/i]

[b]ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE[/b]
Nicole Kidman
[i]THE HOURS [/i]

[b]ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE[/b]
Catherine Zeta-Jones
[i]CHICAGO[/i]

[b]ANIMATED FEATURE FILM[/b]
SPIRITED AWAY
[i]Hayao Miyazaki [/i]]
NOTE: I love to see manga films winning oscars!

[b]ART DIRECTION[/b]
CHICAGO
[i]John Myhre (Art Direction); Gordon Sim (Set Decoration)[/i]

[b]CINEMATOGRAPHY[/b]
ROAD TO PERDITION
[i]Conrad L. Hall[/i]

[b]COSTUME DESIGN[/b]
CHICAGO
[i]Colleen Atwood [/i]

[b]DIRECTING[/b]
THE PIANIST
[i]Roman Polanski[/i]

[b]DOCUMENTARY FEATURE[/b]
BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE
[i]Michael Moore and Michael Donovan[/i]

[b]DOCUMENTARY SHORT SUBJECT[/b]
TWIN TOWERS
[i]Bill Guttentag and Robert David Port [/i]

[b]FILM EDITING[/b]
CHICAGO
[i]Martin Walsh [/i]

[b]FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM[/b]
NOWHERE IN AFRICA
Germany
[i]Directed by Caroline Link [/b]

[b]MAKEUP[/b]
FRIDA
[i]John Jackson and Beatrice De Alba [/i]

[b]MUSIC (SCORE)[/b]
FRIDA
[i]Elliot Goldenthal[/i]

[b]MUSIC (SONG)[/b]
8 MILE
'Lose Yourself'
[i]Music by Eminem, Jeff Bass and Luis Resto; Lyric by Eminem [/i]
You sure about this one Oscar?

[b]SHORT FILM (ANIMATED)[/b]
THE CHUBBCHUBBS!
[i]Eric Armstrong [/i]

[b]SHORT FILM (LIVE ACTION)[/b]
THIS CHARMING MAN (DER ER EN YNDIG MAND)
[i]Martin Strange-Hansen and Mie Andreasen [/i]

[b]SOUND[/b]
CHICAGO
[i]Michael Minkler, Dominick Tavella and David Lee [/i]

[b]SOUND EDITING[/b]
THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE TWO TOWERS
[i]Ethan Van der Ryn and Michael Hopkins[/i]

[b]VISUAL EFFECTS[/b]
THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE TWO TOWERS
[i]Jim Rygiel, Joe Letteri, Randall William Cook and Alex Funke[/i]

[b]WRITING (ADAPTED SCREENPLAY)[/b]
THE PIANIST
[i]Screenplay by Ronald Harwood[/i]

[b]WRITING (ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY)[/b]
TALK TO HER
[i]Written by Pedro Almodóvar [/i]

[b]HONORARY AWARD[/b]
HONORARY AWARD
[i]Peter O'Toole [/i]

[b]BEST PICTURE[/b]
CHICAGO
[i]Martin Richards [/i]

Some of these picture surprised me quite alot. Even thogh I never usually agree with The Academy's best picture choice. This year was nop exception. I felt LOTR was well undermined here. But that's a kiwi biased viewpoint i guess :p [/size] [/color]

[Jesus Chicken]

No, you're not alone and I'm not a Kiwi. I definatly think LOTR was severely jipped, and Chicago received way too much credit all things considered. Steve Martin is a tool, and I pray that he doesn't hope it ever again. I'm just glad they let Christopher Walken inside, he's so damn cool!

[Flash]

Gah.

Lord of the Rings has some of the most amazing costumes and make-up work of all-time. Tell me--How does someone giving Selma Hayek a monobrow win over a hundred people all made up to look like unique, grotesque orcs? And how does a bunch of crappy stage costumes from the thirties compare to the amazing array of different costumes we saw in the Two Towers? Huh? 'Roman Polanski' (not that I've ever heard of him) won best director? Why? Did he direct [i]three great movies[/i] at once? Hell no!

Argh! *explodes in ball of anger*

[Transtic Nerve]

Because the academy doesn't know what they are doing 95% of the time. They are easily swayed by public opinion... and apparently people who dance in movies... They had sh*tty nominees to begin with, so naturally there were sh*tty results.

[Mitch]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DuoMax [/i]
[B]YA! Go Michael Moore! He had the guts to step up and talk about when everyone else was afraid to! [/B][/QUOTE]

[color=red] Hehe, I haven't seen the footage, but yeah, I stand by him in respect. Actually, we just finished watching a documentary of his creation about his town of Flint dying. Good stuff. Especially that crazy rabbit lady. Don't ask.

I did not even watch the Academy Awards. So...[/color]

[TheShinje]

[size=1][color=darkblue] I believe the Academy has hyped up the Oscars to be all ro american BS, Lord of the Rings easily had the best makeup. Heck, Titanic won it in 1997 jus by putting ice on a few dead dudes in the water. How could LOTR not win with it's amazing Orcs, Wizards, and Walking Trees?

I generally dislike musicals, Chicago won best picture. Probably because LOTR snubbed American filming to film over here? Even Gangs of New York would have been a better pick, I liked that movie too. Where was Peter Jacksons nomination for Director? I...I...*explodes* [img]http://www.otakuboards.com/avatar.php?userid=737&dateline=1038970623[/img]
Medra Style :p[/size][/color]

[Juu]

[color=ff00cc] [size=1]Ack! I can't believe I missed it! ><

I was visiting my mom and cousin when the Academy Awards were on, and I really wanted to spend as much time with them...sooo...

Wow, I can't believe LoTR didn't win best picture!! ><;;;; It deserved alot more than just sound and sound editing, though.... (*saw TT seven times*)

I like the viewer's choice awards and MTV movie awards better though. That way, it's what most of the viewers actually think instead of those critics. Bleck. >>[/color] [/size]

[Subversive]

LoTR ofcourse got jipped. They will most likely give it all awards for the third movie. For some reason they frown upon letting a trilogy control the awards for three years. But I believe the movies control the box office, why not the awards?

[ThePikasElbow]

For those who say TTT was the best, have you even seen the other nominees? Heck, TTT wasn't even as good as FotR, and FotR didn't win. I think that they will just give RotK the award, if they weren't, why would they keep nominating it?

Anyways, it was a pretty good night, a lot of my favorites won. Adaptation only walked away with one oscar, but it's better than none. I'm glad Chris Cooper won, he was great. I wish Nicholas Cage won for his dual role in Adaptation. He had the best performance of the year, and I really thought he deserved at least some award. I'm glad Zeta Jones won best supporting, it's the only Oscar that I wanted Chicago to win.

About Best Makeup, you have to submit for that category, that's why there were only two nominees. LotR either didn't get the paperwork in on time, or they just didn't care about that award.

The Pianist grabbed quite a few awards, including some huge ones like Best Adapted Screenplay, Best Actor, and Best Director. Polanski's win was shocking, that's for sure. I really thought Scorcese would win. He's been robbed of the Best Director award when he made Raging Bull, GoodFellas and Taxi Driver, so I was sure the acadamy would make up for that with a win this year.

Adrien Brody was the upset of the night, topping many amazing actors. He also gave the best speech of the night. He even stopped the music and kissed Halle Berry! Brody for president!

Michael Moore's comments were unnecessary and just rude. There are men and women dying in Iraq, and he has to disrespect them like that. Totally uncalled for. I don't care if you dislike Bush, but don't say that the people that are dying in Iraq are dying for nothing.

I really wish Chicago didn't win best picture. It was very good, but with outstanding and original movies like Adaptation, Spirited Away and Minority Report, Chicago doesn't seem that special.

[Semjaza]

I like Steve Martin... if he didn't do a good job hosting, I don't know. I didn't watch much.

I did however see Moore's comments and hear a lot of the war jokes and so on.

Seriously... if you like that stuff, then fine. This is an awards show, not some propaganda/editorial show. 95% of the actors and actresses that comment on this war have absolutely no idea what they are talking about as it is. Even Micheal Moore, who apparently everyone who doesn't like the war goes along with, is flawed, and so was his movie if you want to get down to it.

I've read so many stupid comments from "stars" that it makes me feel like the world should just kill itself anyway. The Oscars certainly didn't help that.

[Juu]

[color=ff00cc] [size=1]Hmm... I'm not reeeaaal sure about the third movie yet. = \

My least favorite of the three books was RoTK... I'm real anxious about seeing the ending, though. I'm really curious whether or not they'll include the afterward. (You know, about Aragorn and Arwen getting married, [spoiler]Faramir and Eowyn getting married[/spoiler]...etc.) Also, whether or not they'll be talking about [spoiler]Dregol and Smeagol[/spoiler]. ^_^[/color] [/size]

[GhostofSalvtore]

I agree with TPE bout the Lord of the rings things, I never saw that one winning or even a nomination. But I can't say that the next installment will win either, LotR just doesn't seem like a best picture movie award.

Also concerning Palanski's winning, now didn't he rape a 13 year old, and Hollywood gives him an Oscar, what is up with that. I mean people make it out to be an accident but it wasn't but I won't go any further on that.

I would have liked Jack Nicholsan to have won, since I am a big fan and like all his movies, but he will have another day I am sure.

The Aaron Brody kiss was pretty funny and I will 2nd him for president!!

Michael Moore's comments were everything TPE said, and I just had to turn the channel during the middle so I didn't have to hear it anymore. But I did like the witty remark Steve Martin made afterwards that kinda brought up some spirits.

Best picture, I knew CHicago would have won, but I had hoped it wouldn't. I don;t really have a pick for that so it didn't really matter all that much.

[Transtic Nerve]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ThePikasElbow [/i]
[B]Michael Moore's comments were unnecessary and just rude. There are men and women dying in Iraq, and he has to disrespect them like that. Totally uncalled for. I don't care if you dislike Bush, but don't say that the people that are dying in Iraq are dying for nothing. [/B][/QUOTE]

He was not disrespecting the soldiers... It was all anti-Bush and anti-Bush's war policy. He didn't even mention the soldiers.... Did you even hear his speech? Your post here doesn't have any relation to it beside the "if you dislike Bush" part... which is about the only truth in your part.

Anyway, I saw enough of Chicago to know it didn't deserve best picture. It looked horrible. Broadway needs to stay out of cinema and stick to trying to win Tony's not Oscars. Leave that to the pros who can act, and not just dance and sing. I didn't see the Pianist. The title reminded me of that movie a few years ago that was just beyond crap, so much i didn't want to see this one. Gangs of New York was a great film. Although exagerated, it was still semi-truthful. I would have liked to see that or LOTR win, but whatever. Oscars don't mean anything anymore because it's quite obvious they give them to people who don't deserve them at all.

After watching last year's Oscars, I knew there was no more hope. Halley Berry was an excellent choice for best actress, Monster's Ball was an incredible, moving, and emotion picture, but Denzel Washington?... he deserved a kick in the a$s after that crappy performance in a CRAPPY movie. After he won, I knew they did it only to appease Jesse Jackson and everyone else who was complaining about African Americans not winning. So you know they are swayed, easily might I add, by a persuasion in public opinion.

[ThePikasElbow]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i]
[B]He was not disrespecting the soldiers... It was all anti-Bush and anti-Bush's war policy. He didn't even mention the soldiers.... Did you even hear his speech? Your post here doesn't have any relation to it beside the "if you dislike Bush" part... which is about the only truth in your part.[/B][/QUOTE]

Of course I heard his speech, although it was a bit hard to catch the end of it with all the loud boos. Yes, he did not mention soldiers, but they fall into a bigger picture. He got up there and said that we have a fake president and we are making up reasons to go to war. He used the word fictious a lot. How fictious are the Iraqi firing on the americans? How fictious are the chemical factories? I'm not for or agaisnt the war, but even if I was against it, I would certainly not show disdain for Bush and the war on national television. The soliders were watching, and to bad mouth Bush and the war IS disrespecting the soldiers, even if he didn't state "I dislike the soldiers blah blah blah"

Anyways, I really wish Billy Crystal would host again. Steve Martin is funny, but he was seriously unfunny at the beginning. His quick wit lucklily payed off near the end of the show. At least it wasn't Whoopi Goldberg...

[silentdeath]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by S@bretooth

[b]ANIMATED FEATURE FILM[/b]
SPIRITED AWAY
[i]Hayao Miyazaki [/i]]
NOTE: I love to see manga films winning oscars!
[/QUOTE]

lol i loved that movie sooooooooo much!!!

then i saw it won in the first few minutes and was soooooooo happy!

then all of those crappy fuc*** chicago awards,

LoTR should have won makeup and the props one,

peter j. should be nominated and win,

i mean how many other directors can say they filmed 3 best picture nominated pictures,all simontaniosly(sp)?

the acadamy needs to stop playing the "they won last year" shi* and start awarding the right stuff to the right films.

[TheShinje]

[size=1][color=darkblue] Like Juu said, The MTV's and the like are more of the public perception because they are polled on public opinion, not a bunch of dudes in an office. Unfortunately theyr'e not as prestegious as the Academys, or as easily recognised.

Compare them. Academy Award = oscar.

MTV = Metal Moonman or metal popcorn thingy o_O [/size] [/color]

[DuoMax]

[quote]Of course I heard his speech, although it was a bit hard to catch the end of it with all the loud boos. Yes, he did not mention soldiers, but they fall into a bigger picture. He got up there and said that we have a fake president and we are making up reasons to go to war. He used the word fictious a lot. How fictious are the Iraqi firing on the americans? How fictious are the chemical factories? I'm not for or agaisnt the war, but even if I was against it, I would certainly not show disdain for Bush and the war on national television. The soliders were watching, and to bad mouth Bush and the war IS disrespecting the soldiers, even if he didn't state "I dislike the soldiers blah blah blah"
[/quote]

If you want to talk about this there is a whole other thread, were I will be happy to riposte your arguments.

[Yu Yu Hakusho!]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by S@bretooth [/i]
[B][size=1] [color=darkblue]This is the Academy awards discussion thread. Overall, how did you think the nights entertainment went? Did you think that whoever wone their respoective oscars deserved them? Who would you have picked for the Accolades?

I though it was a very entertaining show, albiet quieter and less glamorous because of the damn war. I felt dissapoineted Lord Of the Riungs failed to bring home best picture again[img]http://digilander.iol.it/ilxnucleo/Emoticon/Exsplosion.gif[/img], oh well, maybe next time they will honor it.

Steve Martin was an excellent host. He kept the laughs up, and thats what I like best about the Oscars, the ability for Hollywood to pokje fun at Hollywood. I think the Kodak theatre is an exellent choice of venue too.

I saw quite a bit of anti war sentiment, which was cool. Actors not afraid to spoeak their mind, apparently the hosts and presenters couldn't, but they could (the accepters of the awards) Is that true?

Overall, what did you think of Oscars 75th borthday? [img]http://digilander.iol.it/ilxnucleo/Emoticon/Popcorn.gif[/img][/size] [/color] [/B][/QUOTE]
You know why they didn't give LOTR a better award?
Because it isn't Chicago!!
And because it's not some musical with people making out in it.
That's what they give the awards to, the sucky movies that most people don't like except for the....how should I say this?
Liberals.
That meant no offense, but I'm saying that out of truth. Hey, I'm Liberal, so don't feel angry....
But I just don't like that kind of crap.
Not my cup of tea.

[L.A. Rod.]

I think Chicago needs a little breathing space, guys. Although I haven't seen it, I think it felt the wrath of the stiff competition in only taking home six of the Twelve, so it didn't do as great as the Gods of Hollywood would have wanted it to. Everybody thought it would clean house, but I had a feeling it wouldn't.

I thought that the night was an all around good one. Steve Martin was a good host in my book. As a matter of fact, I think he should stop, please stop, doing movies, and just stick to hosting the Oscars and making surprise SNL cameos from now on.

I'm really glad Adrien Brody won for best actor(it was between him and Cage, for me). I also think that Martin Scorsese shouldn't have won for Gangs of New York; nor because he didn't do a good job, but because his shelf should already be filled with oscars for the other Great movies he directed.

I laughed when Polanski won and wasn't there, as he's hiding out in France never to return to America in fear of arrest for the whole "R. Kelly" thing.

I think Denzel won last year because Sean Penn didn't show up. I heard the Academy sometimes does that, and that sucks.