future girl Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 nudity in anime doesn't always serve as a crucial part to the story line, but the same thing goes for live action american movies. what a lot of ppl don't understand is that just because it's animated doesn't mean your 6 y/o child can watch it. the truth is that most anime with nudity in it is not directed towards a younger audience. what i could never understand is how a parent could be more offended by a sex act, rather than a man killing another man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Watinabe Posted April 3, 2003 Share Posted April 3, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Vorvodoss [/i] [B]Syk3> I completely agree with the point you make. [spoiler]Shinji masturbating over Asuka's body is more what I was referring to. It is so crucial to the story and I was pleased and amazed to see it in the story.[/spoiler] I think Evangelion is a great example of when adult situations/nudity is needed. When I say kids, I am really referring to anyone who can't understand the subject matter. Heck, if there's an eleven year old out there who can understand the subject matter, then great. I think a good age for most anime nudity is 16 but in America the age is eighteen. Who's to say that isn't a little closer to an appropriate age? [/B][/QUOTE] I was not pleased with Sinji's actions in that part, it was gross and disturbing. I think that anime could have been better if they put more time into the battles instead of into the people's personal feelings since it all gets screwy in the end.I mean it was a waste of time the characters failed as people and so the only reason I still like the anime is becuase of the Mecha (If you can call them that) and Angle battles:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegeta rocker Posted April 3, 2003 Share Posted April 3, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Watinabe [/i] [B] I think that anime could have been better if they put more time into the battles instead of into the people's personal feelings since it all gets screwy in the end. [/B][/QUOTE] Thats why i hate Gundam! Too much time focused on the mecha and it gets boring. Thats why Nadsico and Eva are much better. Gundam has cardboard characters. it is way overrated. People and their emotions are much more interesting to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Fou Lu Posted April 6, 2003 Share Posted April 6, 2003 Nudity in Anime does bother me a little. Hentai is probably the worst i can understand Anime characters having a shower or whatnot, but having 2 cartoons doing worse actions, is not something i would like to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patronus Posted April 6, 2003 Share Posted April 6, 2003 Henati sucks...well, it sucks something it shows ALOT I don't watch much anime...don't even know where to find it....but I am guessing the nudity is to make it realistic. They make anime to show what we can't do, and putting nudity in is showing it could be real. I dunno if this makes sense, but it's what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu Yu Hakusho! Posted April 6, 2003 Share Posted April 6, 2003 I don't really have a problem with it, just as long as the characters aren't having sex. ><; It's just Japanese culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsukasa/Squall Posted April 6, 2003 Share Posted April 6, 2003 Me I'm not worried with to much porn I don't even like it but if it has something to do with the story line then I find nothing wrong with it.Like Ninja Scroll the only time they actually have nudity is when it has to do with the story line.So there's nothing wrong with it unless the level of the matuerity of the people watching it.That's what you should really worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmjk Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 personally, i don't mind nudity as long as it goes w/the story i mean, take anime out of the question and look at Japanese/Chinese martial art movies... nudity is part of the cultural expression and (as has been said repeatedly) a part of life ed~ grr at *** symbols (made me spell it out) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 Oh right , I think it's just that the Japanes are comfortable around nudity like it's a form of art. Second to this is that here in the U.S we are told at an young age that it's wrong to look at nudity, which they should . Most of us should be in are teens and be mature around the message board, and see it as just a anime charecter no more no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Meike Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 nudity is something normal in Japan. They don't look at naked people like in our way. Japanese people even have public baths. Ofcourse are the guys seperated from the girls. But still...I think every guy and girl around here don't want to be naked infront of other people, even of the same sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Juunanagou Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 Let see. Considering the fact that [B]all[/B] things animated aren't considered realistic in Nippon, except for hentai, Nudity in Anime doens't reall ymean anything, except for a naked person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Asuka Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Galvatron [/i] [B] Most of us should be in are teens and be mature around the message board, and see it as just a anime charecter no more no less. [/B][/QUOTE] [color=hotpink][size=1]That's not always the case. Some people around the boards are 11 or 12 and haven't been exposed to things such as nudity. As children grow up and hit puberty, anything nude, ANYTHING, no matter whether cartoon or real, will be something they are interesting in. And mature people on the Otaku...*Laughs a bit* Seems as though they are few and far between... And yes, there is a BIG difference in simple nudity and full out hentai. That is a whole different topic here.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genkai Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 I don't think nudity should be a problem if children don't se eit. That's what My Neighbor Totoro, Spirited Away, CatNapped!, Kiki's Delivery Service, Kimba the White Lion, and billions of others are about.. Kids.. So anime isbn't really all that dirty.. People are just misled by the jillions of anime that are made up of rather bustful bustiness bustalicious busts. (I'm sorry, I'm just reminded of bust pudding, hahaha) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeStIcIdE Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 [QUOTE=vegeta rocker]I quess they are more open about sexuality over there. If it is called for in the story then whats the big deal? [/QUOTE] In Japan they have all sorts of nudity in every anime they have.. They even let the 5 or 6 year olds watch these nudity infested animes(somewhere around that age at least)...Thats not fair, here we can see poorly animated females in bathing suits and in movies we can see some nudity, but over in Japan they get to see nudity in their well drawn anime on TV... No seperate channels or PPV, just plain "Pay For The Service, We Give You The Channel." Why can't a Japanese manga/anime artist become the president here??(preferably Ken Akamatsu) Most of this is far from the point of your topic, but i hope it helps you some... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ScirosDarkblade Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 I don't really have a problem with nudity in anime and manga, but I frequently have a problem with its context. Often times, it is in scenes that lead to some character development (in Evangelion, Shinji walking in on a naked post-shower Rei when he first visits her quarters in NERV, for instance). But way too often it's just, well, "fan service" like in Seraphic Feather, or the Love Hina manga covers. Well, LH covers are a bit tame (no actual nudity), but they really don't communicate anything about the manga's content and honestly I don't see what the point is other than to make a guy uncomfortable with purchasing it (in the United States, anyway; I probably wouldn't be uncomfortable if I were raised in Japan, although I can't say for sure). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James P. Galvatron Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 Pesticide I think that America is to overated almost anything that shows the slightest nudity these days ever since that superbowl incident gets trashed by parents and congress. Why must I live in the laughing stock nation of the world I mean almost every other nation is mad at America. They are not helping going crazy trying to censor everything and worsening it with the homosexual marriage ban. America has always been strict thinking nudity is wrong they get mad over anime having nudity because anything that is a cartoon to American parents they believe should be Saturday morning cartoonish like Sonic X, Kirby Right Back at Ya, or Static Shock they can't handle cartoons having sexual or nude situations because of the way cartoons are usually shown here. I hope for one day that America will stop being so strict making themselves the butt ofall jokes and if things worsen I am leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godelsensei Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 [COLOR=Gray][SIZE=2][FONT=Courier New]This is like asking if nudity is necessary in North American movies. Animation is accepted as a legitimate medium for people of all ages in Japan, and therefore will cover pretty much every genre of North American pop culture. And other pop-cultures, as well, of course. Nudity has no place in small children's TV shows, but is sometimes necessary to the plot. And even if it isn't absolutely necessary to the story, a large per cent of anime contains more-than-elementary-school-crushes sexuality. *shrug* As long as it isn't exploitive or utterly pointless, I don't hold anything against it. [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
densuke Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 I think the argument that nudity is OK if it fits in the storyline has its weaknesses. According to that view all the writer has to do to justify it is write it into the story. Plenty of shounen manga start off by giving the main character a peek at a girl followed by chapter after chapter of not necessarily anything much as he tries desperately to get another look by whatever means. Some of these are worth reading, some are not. The skill of the writer is what carries the day. I think it's more practical to be resigned to the fact that fanservice is going to pop up in anime and manga and just make note of where and when it takes place when reviewing or summarizing a series. Ero-manga and -anime are already clearly labelled as such and do not enter into this. It is then up to each individual to take the fanservice into account when selecting what to watch. Some titles are not notable for anything besides fanservice. That judgement just goes under the heading of "is this worth watching?" which has to be asked and answered anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0ber0n the Neko Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 Well, nudity in anime is a very touchy subject. Many people believe it is for visual appeal. Many believe it is for, as many people have stated here, part of making a more real and believable character. Some believe its because the Japanese are a bunch of perverted weirdos. My personal thoughts on this are as follows: Nudity in anime, in terms of purpose, is used for many things dependent upon the situation/storyline. Many popular manga-kas have stated that they gave large *ahem* anatomies to certain characters because they, themselves, thought it was personally funny. It may also add to the akwardness or sense of embarassment of a scene (while many of my friends are sitting there screaming "MAKE HER TURN AROUND!"). It is also used to develop the certain *cough cough perverted cough* interests of a character, or the peeves of a certain other character. It is also (yes, my friends will agree with me on this) used for visual appeal (now they're cheering...) in certain situations. It can be used to make noticable a certain trait (sean says "B**B SIZE!") or mark on a character's body...or just cuz the manga-ka derives such pleasure in nudity that they just HAVE to add it in. I really think that some is necessary, while other types are just stupid... Me and God were watching Cowboy Bebop in Heaven's Living Room! :hippy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rurouni Kenshin Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 I find nudity offensive only if used in a perverted or intense sexual way... As long as it's mild... although even mild cannot make it to American edits... except for male butts... Why oh why do they show male butts... and are so afraid to show a decent amount of clevage??? Male butts are as offensive to males as female butts are to females(straight ones btw...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanariya Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 [color=darkslateblue]I could care less if there was really any nudity in an anime. I don't mind one bit of it at all, and to say I don't care if it gets a little wacky too, but not burst out hentai. I would pass to see anime characters have sex, though to say sometimes it has occured in dreams I have >> Oh wow lucky me. Well, sometimes it is necessary to have nudity in an anime, and sometimes some animes go overboard, but the ones I've seen usually went overboard because they were based on horny men and stuff like that (Colorful for example, ah the title made me feel it was gonna be a horny anime anyways). I don't mind a shot of the back of a naked person at all, it's not offensive. Better actually get used to it.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 [color=#707875]I think that the use of nudity in an anime is no different to the use of any other concept. It can become very tired and cliche if over-used. It does definitely depend on the series though. Sometimes nudity and sex is used to illustrate an important point about characters. I have only seen a few animes with some level of sexual content in them (ie: Ninja Scroll) and on the whole, I haven't found it to be an offensive thing. In general that kind of stuff doesn't offend me anyway, but wherever I've seen it in an anime, I've never really felt that it was out of context or distasteful. But obviously everyone has a different view on what is or is not acceptable. And Western attitudes to sex are quite different to Japanese attitudes, as has been stated. Obviously that plays a large role in how people interpret and view this type of material.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G/S/B Master Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 *doesn't believe the topic didn't close *_* * I sometime enjoy the nudity in Anime or Manga. Don't blame, me, blame the parents that raised me by letting me watch Street FIghter movies lol. A nude/pervert manga example is Real Bout High School. Huge cleavage and with a bath scene. Anime, don't see 1 anywhere so far.... [quote name='Inuyasha7271']America has always been strict thinking nudity is wrong they get mad over anime having nudity because anything that is a cartoon to American parents they believe should be Saturday morning cartoonish like Sonic X, Kirby Right Back at Ya, or Static Shock they can't handle cartoons having sexual or nude situations because of the way cartoons are usually shown here.[/quote] Parents are used to cartoons like Roadrunner lol. Can't blame them. America is one of the places where your children can be "safe" from nudity and other things. Parents nowadays are really crazy about nudity in cartoons or anywhere else, like that superbowl publicity stunt. "Look ma, I saw a nipple ring!" [quote name='Rurouni Kenshin']Male butts are as offensive to males as female butts are to females(straight ones btw...)[/quote] Yo dude, thats just your opinion lol. Male butts aren't offensive to me. I just don't really care. Female butts= fetish alert LMAO. I'm guessing the dubbers doesn't want any part of the female body in the anime except for the usual face. Also, the girls in american cartoons are "flat". Nudity in Anime/Manga, "A.K.A Hentei" isn't offensive. If it's used repetitively, then I get pissed off, since they're using it to get the perv fans in, not the story line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ScirosDarkblade Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 Well the whole male butts thing is another topic altogether. I've frequently asked myself, why does Jean-Claude Van Damme (who I think is only really watched by MEN, as in "movies for guys who like movies" MEN) put a "van damme a**" scene in every movie? Of course, Van Damme is no master storyteller (nor anyone he works with for that matter), and so that nudity is just plain old stupid. And I think that's the kind of nudity that people find most offensive. The worthless, just-for-attention nudity. At least that's the kind I dislike. Now, if Van Damme managed to work his butt into the plot somehow, (like, maybe, he needs to sit on the Throne of Chaos with his bare behind in order to become the Dark Lord and gain the powers of decent acting) then that'd be fine. That's all I'm asking, from Van Damme or from anime/manga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinata Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 Nudity... Been there done that seen it in just about any place imaginable. It doesn't bother me at all male or female. I've more so seen nudity though in the mangas though especially from Love Hina and some or the Yu Watase series, but it's just something that allows the story to go on. For exaple, Love Hina manga, I'd say at least once a volume you see someone partially naked and what happens usually Keitaro(the only guy living in Hinata House) happened to stumble across the naked female. And what do you think escalates from that...WHAMP!!!! Usually he ends up in some tree or hurt because of his clumsiness. So for general viewing I have no problem with it. But if anyone hear chooses to go beyond those boundaries, just be sure you really know what you're watching so you don't come out dumbfounded from seeing something you didn't expect. And I actually think that goes for many movies that are shown anywhere, and it doesn't have to be the sexuality within it just the subject matter period! Oops sorry got off track.But most nudity I've seen in anime has been minimal and it is for a reason. So if I see a flas of this or a flash of that no biggie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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