Gaming Unofficial prequel to FF6!!!

[Sandy]

Omigosh! This came as a total surprise (at least to me): some fans of Final Fantasy 6 are doing a prequel to the game! It will be set 1000 years before the original game, so it's about War of the Magi. It is made by some group called Fierce Legends Software.

The game is totally unofficial, though Squaresoft has been announced to approve it, if it's [i]free[/i] - and it will be! Final Fantasy VI: Forgotten Story will be a free PC-game which can apparently be downloaded from various sites when the time comes.

Well, I suck at explaining things, so read for yourself! Here's a few links I found:
[url=http://fls.squareultima.com/]The official site[/url]
[url=http://ffwa.org/news/21-01-2003.html]An interview of one of the developers[/url]

Omigosh omigosh.... :D

[JCBaggee]

[color=red][size=1][font=arial]Sounds cool! I may actually have to play that one.

--Chris[/color][/size][/font]

[size=1][color=crimson]Opinion? :rolleyes: -[b]Break[/b][/size][/color]

[Desbreko]

[color=indigo]This looks like it could actually turn out to be something that's pretty good. I'll have to keep an eye on this.[/color]

[Ninjaman]

A prequel? Ooooooo, kinky! ^^

I love FF6, but with it going to be a PC game, then I won't be able to play it. My computer stinks and the game probably won't work on it. Man, and I really want to learn more about the War of the Magi.

[conpiracymonki]

[b][size=1]
So wait.

I'm not sure this is going to work out.

-Are FLS going to make FF6-2 according to their own ideas on the War of the Magi, with Square automatically apporiving it (if it's free)?
-Or are Square going to set out some basic story guidelines that FLS have to follow?
-Or have Square just full out made the whole prequel story, and FLS are only going to create it?[/b]

*twitches*
*twitches*
*confused*
*twitches*[/size]

[Desbreko]

[color=indigo]Well, from the sound of what I've read about it, FLS is pretty much just making up what they think happened, besides the bits that it told about in FFVI. I don't think Square is really having anything to do with it.[/color]

[Semjaza]

Of course Square has nothing to do with this... At all. In fact, Square could probably sue them and shut the site down easily if they really wanted to. It makes use of story, characters and exact graphics... I'd assume sound and everything else as well. Sounds a lot like a romhack, even though it's not.

Another team did something simliar to this with an excellent remake of Castlevania II.


Smaller fan groups do this stuff rather often... although it's usually with PC games like King's Quest. The team that did that did stuff that even rivaled the Sierra remakes... with video and voice and everything I'm still awaiting the fan remake of Quest for Glory 2 by them.

[Break]

[size=1][color=crimson]If it's unofficial then the company does have a very high chance of being sued. With this in mind, the prequel would be either of below medium quality or very bad quality because they are just using their own opinions for what the game would be like. Square won't be happy (me either)..[/size][/color]

[Turkey]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Break [/i]
[B][size=1][color=crimson]If it's unofficial then the company does have a very high chance of being sued. With this in mind, the prequel would be either of below medium quality or very bad quality because they are just using their own opinions for what the game would be like. Square won't be happy (me either)..[/size][/color] [/B][/QUOTE]

I doubt they can be sued. If they are, Square already gave them permit, so they would have to be warned first. And I doubt the game will be bad quality, with Square approving it and all.

Besides, what makes Square the only developer qualified to make a good story? I believe our RPG and Literature Forums prove that there are much better storytellers than those in Square.

[Break]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Smoky Joe [/i]
[B]Besides, what makes Square the only developer qualified to make a good story? I believe our RPG and Literature Forums prove that there are much better storytellers than those in Square. [/B][/QUOTE]

[size=1][color=crimson]That is true, but since it is Square's story, can't Square tell us how it began?[/size][/color]

[GinnyLyn]

It would certainly make more sense, since Square started the story in the first place. It's like asking Michael Critchton to write a sequel for a Stephen King novel. It don't float.

I'd prefer Square to have the story down. Hades, I'd prefer to be able to get my hands on FF6 again. @_@

[Semjaza]

There's not one thing on the site that says they got permission or are awaiting permission. Not even the interview. It just says that they looked into it, and [i]think[/i] they won't ever get in trouble because they aren't making money off of it and are crediting Square. While I don't think Square would (it isn't good for public relations and such), they can certainly go after this group as much as they want.

I don't know how anyone would ever expect Square to endorse or even remotely help this project. It's not theirs first of all. It's being done by some US fan team second of all... and Square would gain no money off of it. They won't bother, and neither would any company that remotely cares about its franchises or money.

Anyway, the game could be good. It takes place 100s of years before, so I don't really know what they could mess up badly.

[Zidargh]

[SIZE=1][COLOR=darkblue]I agree with Break, I would prefer to have Square tell the tale.

I really cannot see this working out, I really cannot, let alone it gaining heavy publicity, as FFVI was produced by Square, hence creating the audience to be fond on Square.

Of course, by saying this, I could see myself downloading the game and playing it, but I do not know why, but I am finding price attracts more attention by myself, in stores. I do not really understand why Square cannot produce the prequel, but Hironobu did say he did not intend on creating prequels nor sequels.

I just cannot understand why Square gave the permit out.[/COLOR][/SIZE]

[Break]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Zidane [/i]
[B][SIZE=1][COLOR=darkblue]I just cannot understand why Square gave the permit out.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [/B][/QUOTE]

[size=1][color=crimson]They haven't, it's got totally nothing to do with Square whatsoever.[/size][/color]

[Zidargh]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Break [/i]
[B][size=1][color=crimson]They haven't, it's got totally nothing to do with Square whatsoever.[/size][/color] [/B][/QUOTE]
[SIZE=1][COLOR=darkblue] Yes, but they were given a permit as the Final Fantasy series was copy-righted by Square in which any company would need a permit, or written permission to produce Final Fantasy based publicity.

For example, the [I]'8 Bit Comics'[/I] of Nuklear Power, it is read at the bottom that a permit was needed. Otherwise, this unofficial Final Fantasy VI Prequel, if it were to have a price put on it, this would never happen. Hence the need for permission from Square.

It doesn't matter of they're not involved, I'm sure you'd want to give permission for someone to copy you, or your ideas.[/COLOR][/SIZE]

[Desbreko]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Zidane [/i]
[B][SIZE=1][COLOR=darkblue] Yes, but they were given a permit as the Final Fantasy series was copy-righted by Square in which any company would need a permit, or written permission to produce Final Fantasy based publicity.

For example, the [I]'8 Bit Comics'[/I] of Nuklear Power, it is read at the bottom that a permit was needed. Otherwise, this unofficial Final Fantasy VI Prequel, if it were to have a price put on it, this would never happen. Hence the need for permission from Square.

It doesn't matter of they're not involved, I'm sure you'd want to give permission for someone to copy you, or your ideas.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [/B][/QUOTE]
[color=indigo]That's the thing, though; they didn't get permission from Square. They're just hoping that they won't get sued because they're not charging for it.[/color]

[Semjaza]

Has [i]anyone[/i] other than myself, Break and Desbreko read the site or interview? lol

Like I said 5 posts up, they don't have the permission. It's been repeated twice since then. Go read the site and see for yourself.

One post above even:

"There's not one thing on the site that says they got permission or are awaiting permission. Not even the interview. It just says that they looked into it, and think they won't ever get in trouble because they aren't making money off of it and are crediting Square."

That's all there is to know.

Anyway, I wonder how long it would take to get this thing out. I'm interested in trying it, although I doubt I'll finish it... not big on console games on a PC.

[Mitch]

[color=black][size=1][font=rockwell] I'm somewhat interested, but, in some ways, I don't want a sequel nor a prequel to FF III. The game itself is my favorite Final Fantasy and near to my favorite RPG ever. With that said, I doubt that it's really possible to capture all of the magic that is in gist the game.

I'm interested, though. As with any casual FFer, I will give this game a shot when it comes out. See if it's actual worth what it's worth. But in all truety, I'd much rather see Square officially make a sequel, or, if so be, a prequel. I know they'd do a better job anyways.

I don't exactly think it's right that a group of fans just one day decided, "We're going to make a prequel to FF 6!" it's just not right in my opinion. Square and everything therein is Square's. They shouldn't be able to make a game just because they're fans. Even if Square won't get much money from sueing this group of fans, I hope they do it. It's just no right. Although they aren't exactly stealing anything for Final Fantasy and the characters and such therein, they are basing it upon another game. I don't know, I just don't feel that this should be happening. As good in some ways as it is, I still don't like it.

We'll see where this goes. I'll watch this like a hawk.[/color][/size][/font]

[Zidargh]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Semjaza Azazel [/i]
[B]Has [i]anyone[/i] other than myself, Break and Desbreko read the site or interview? lol

Like I said 5 posts up, they don't have the permission. It's been repeated twice since then. Go read the site and see for yourself.

One post above even:

"There's not one thing on the site that says they got permission or are awaiting permission. Not even the interview. It just says that they looked into it, and think they won't ever get in trouble because they aren't making money off of it and are crediting Square."

That's all there is to know.

Anyway, I wonder how long it would take to get this thing out. I'm interested in trying it, although I doubt I'll finish it... not big on console games on a PC. [/B][/QUOTE]

[SIZE=1][COLOR=darkblue] Oh I did read the interview, don't worry. I just have't understood it correctly, a big mistake on my part, I apologise.

But with their intent to make a prequel and hope to not be sued, I really don't understand why they'd risk it, while they do not earn any money from it...apparentley. Well I know I'll play it, but I just disagree personally. So in conclusion, I agree with Break.

Oh yes, Semjaza, Break or Desbrek, do you have any information if it will be ported onto a site for downloading, or will they allow it for use of other sites?[/COLOR][/SIZE]

[Mitch]

[color=black][size=1][font=rockwell] Zidane, it says what you're asking right in the interview.[/color][/size][/font]

[Break]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mitch [/i]
[B][color=black][size=1][font=rockwell] Zidane, it says what you're asking right in the interview.[/color][/size][/font] [/B][/QUOTE]

[size=1][color=crimson]lol.. yeah it sure does, and just for you; here it is:[/size][/color]

[QUOTE][i]Guy at site says:[/i]
[b]It will, without doubt, be completely free at every phase. We will not be asking any money for any aspect of the game. As for where you can get it, we're still working that one out, but hopefully from 40-50 sites and various dedicated servers by the final release. We've been networking with friends of ours to get a massive release party, online celebrations and everything (if the game drums up enough support). So it'll be a big event and everyone can get a copy from many different places, for absolutely free.[/b] [/QUOTE]

[Turkey]

Square can't sue them for that. I believe the explanation is in the Bob and George site. It's got to do with something aboot "artistic interpretation". Anyway, that's what happens with fanfics, and:
[b]This game is just an interactive fanfic, nothing more.[/b]

And if you want a game that does deserve being sued, play "Legend of Zelda: Link Gets Laid".

[GinnyLyn]

*presses her hands into her ears, then covers her eyes* I did not just read that, I did not just read that, I did not just read that, I did not just read that...oh my frelling GOSH I better not have just read that. *shivers*

Interactive fanfic? You mean like those "Choose Your Own Adventure" books from way back when?

[Turkey]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by GinnyLyn [/i]
[B]*presses her hands into her ears, then covers her eyes* I did not just read that, I did not just read that, I did not just read that, I did not just read that...oh my frelling GOSH I better not have just read that. *shivers*

Interactive fanfic? You mean like those "Choose Your Own Adventure" books from way back when? [/B][/QUOTE]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

....No! I did not mean that! *Bursts out laughing again*

*Calms down* What I meant is that it is a fanfic in the sense that fans invented the story. I called it interactive because you play the game (thus you interact with the fanfic).

[Semjaza]

If you take characters and stick them in basically anything else other than a parody, you can get in trouble. This is why Simpsons sites with nothing more than plot information and some pics are forcibly shut down by Fox.

The problem here isn't that they are doing what they want with the story and everything else... They are using exact graphics from the game, using trademarked names for their own use and so on. You can get in trouble for such thing, assuming the owner even wants to bother.