Genkai Posted April 16, 2003 Share Posted April 16, 2003 I have a question. Well, a few What is love? Is it possible to describe it? AHve you experienced love? And no, not relationships in Middle School and High School that are just for...fun.. y'know? I mean, sort of like you woulor you would wish that your time with them woud last forever.... I think you can only fall truly in love once, and that God only put on person on this earth for you to love. And I mean as in romantic love, not love like you love your parents... Yeah... Anyway.... this is NOT the same topic as the "Whats up with boys?" topics etc.. Th is is about LOVE... But go ahead and close it if you see fit, mods!:D No dirty talk, you sly dogs:devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted April 16, 2003 Share Posted April 16, 2003 [b][size=1]Love? Love is something that binds you eternally to someone, something you have [i]never[/i] felt before in your life. Love is when you would die for a person.. when you would give anything and everything just to hold them for 5 minutes in your arms, to tell them how you feel just one more time or to just [i]be there[/i] with them. Love, for me, is having that person on your mind 24/7. Everything you do, you think of that person, how it might relate to them and so forth. In my warped mind, my perception of love is crystal clear.. but when I try to describe it to others I go on for a long time, and generally make little sense. To me.. love is all I have left, but is everything I ever wanted.[/b][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senor Ding Dong Posted April 16, 2003 Share Posted April 16, 2003 It's kind of [i]really[/i] hard to describe for a feeling. It's easy to get into, but hard to get out of. I believe that there is more than one person for people. I mean, if your lover dies at 27, and he was the "one", are you going to be lonely until the end of your life? I should hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness Posted April 16, 2003 Share Posted April 16, 2003 Love sucks.:) It's something that, in essence, is hard to objectify. It the feeling of needing someone so much, that just talking to them for five minutes can fulfill your whole day. It when you love someone so much, you can't sleep. It whenever you do something, you think of something you can do for her. I had a four year relationship that didn't work because of religious reasons. Oh, I believe that a person can fall in love more than once, but being a hopeless romantic, I also believe that there is that one person out there who is perfect fit for you. How you know if you've found that person? I don't know, but hopefully one day I will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyGirl Posted April 16, 2003 Share Posted April 16, 2003 [color=deeppink]Love is having lots and lots of wild and crazy sex! . . . . . . . . I'm kidding, you prudes :p [Sex is just a really nice bonus...] I think that the definition of love is as wide open as anyone can make it. I'm in a really loving relationship with someone that I never would want to lose because he means so much to me. I don't know how I got so lucky as to find someone that I could see myself spending the rest of my life with when I'm only 18. At times I'll find myself thinking about what it would be like to be with other guys or being without the man that I'm currently with. But those thoughts never sit well, I'm too satisfied with what I have. I figure that since I've found someone so perfect and wonderful that I love so much, why risk losing that at all? Hehe, I'm in love :love2: [Who'd have ever thought? lol][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven's Cloud Posted April 16, 2003 Share Posted April 16, 2003 [color=indigo] I once wrote a short story titled "The Only Girl I Ever Loved" for my college English Essay class. I whish I still had a copy because it captures my feelings about love perfectly. The paper pretty much stated that I have never had stronger feelings about a girl then I did when I was 13 years old. Those hard cases of puppy love seem much more complete and concrete then any feelings I have had for a girl in the last seven or so years. So I guess, to make a long explanation short, I think that love is an infatuation, an undying case of puppy love that nags at you constantly and makes you both complete and helpless at the same time. Of course, I could be wrong, I've never been in love.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted April 16, 2003 Share Posted April 16, 2003 I don't really know how to define love. A lot of things that I think make up love, could be stuck into other categories too... like good friendships and such. I guess being able to recognize and actually like the flaws of a person, to be able to do absolutely nothing with them and it's still somehow one of the best things ever just because you're together and feeling better about things just because you know they are around and care for you are all things that make up love more or less. Love is different things for different people. I don't know that anyone could completely define every aspect of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCBaggee Posted April 17, 2003 Share Posted April 17, 2003 [color=red][size=1][font=arial]Love is not an emotion you can describe, but a state of mind. It's not when you feel comfortable or constantly think of someone, but when you literally feel you cannot live without them. To be in love is to realize you and that person are truly one being, inseperable to the end. And it's really confusing if you're not careful V.V --Chris[/color][/size][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genkai Posted April 17, 2003 Author Share Posted April 17, 2003 I've had long conversations about love, whetehr it's okay to have sex without love and vice versa, and what it is. Neither of us could describe it. Do you thinki that maybe love is something you just know what it is , whether you've had it or not? That's what I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cloricus Posted April 17, 2003 Share Posted April 17, 2003 Well it looks like the general view is that sex is very linked with love, strange how a large part of the total amount of sex isn't with a "partner" or some one that person loves. Anyway I don't really know much about love, or sex for that matter so I can't comment very far. Though I get the feeling that Harlequin will want to chuck his two cents worth in, but as you say genkai you don't want "relationships in Middle School and High School that are just for...fun.." :P Eps - I needed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muse Posted April 17, 2003 Share Posted April 17, 2003 [COLOR=blue][SIZE=1] Happines is having a mind-blowing crush on someone and knowing they have one on you, too. Sure... I may not really [i]know[/i] what love is... the only thing I know is what it feels like. There is a boy in class who I love... and so does he. Although he wont admit it, he has told my best friend and well... she told me. I... dont think I can describe the way I feel when I see him everyday. It's like a warm feeling. I feel like I would die for him... I just wish that he would express his feelings towards me a little better. Yeah.... maybe it is only a Puppy-Love type thing... but I dont care. Maybe I am a little bit to young to know what love truely is, but I fell like I am in love with him... my whole world would be shattered if I could never, like Elite said, hold him in my arms for 5 minutes. Yeah...I'm guessin' no one cares what I think :D [/COLOR][/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiroMunkie Posted April 17, 2003 Share Posted April 17, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by cloricus[/i] [B]Anyway I don't really know much about love, or sex for that matter so I can't comment very far.[/B][/QUOTE][size=1]Well, you see, when a two people fall in love -- or just feel like having a good time... or are just doing their job -- ... well, they do stuff, and that is what sex is. :p On the actual subject now, from what I have read it seems that anything most (if not all) of you have said falls more under infatuation, rather than actual love. Now, personally, I cannot really define "love", nor do I really care to. Love is not simply an infatuation; it may be part of it, sure, but there is so much more. There has to be, or else any two fools that have ever found themselves infatuated with the other can say they have been in love. By the way that love has been implanted to be in my mind, it is far too exclusive of a thing to be that random. A majority of those feelings that you people have mentioned do not necessarily work. A stalker could have those same emotions, but that does not mean that he or she loves their stalkee. Love is a two way street (as are other ideas). I am far too cynical when it comes to love. I do not accept it as an existing truth. Right now, in my mindset, I cannot see myself ever telling a person that I seriously love them; even myself. This might just be a spawned idea from my hatred of emotion in general (hating emotion... I just realized how ironic that is...). Love is far too ambiguous of an idea to take any importance to me. I am not going to waste my time wondering whether or not I actually love a person, because I know that somewhere else in this world someone has to be contemplating the exact same thing, and they are going to say "Yes, I do love this person", and the next thing they know is that they are out of the relationship. I just save myself the trouble and tell myself "No." It is going to take something much larger than my mind can possibly handle to make me believe that I would actually love a person, and by that point I would probably be quite insane and not really know what to do at all. I would probably end up scaring that person off a bit. Just typing about this right now is making me question a lot of things relating around the general topic of like and love. Never in my life have I ever come across people who I would say that they are truly in love. Not my mom and dad (obviously, since they are divorced), not my step-mom and dad, not my mom and step-dad, not anyone. Ever. When people tell me, or I overhear, that they "seriously" love a person, the first thing that pops into my head is "Liar". I could probably go and kill either one of those two people, and sure the living person would probably hate me, and they would be sad for a while. Chances are they wll eventually get over it and find someone else. You cannot just find another person if the one that I killed is the one you truly loved, and yet they hate me for it. It is so much easier to hate, than to face one's own overwhelming ignorance. Though, perhaps I am just too damn skeptical. Perhaps I have already idealized my view of love and just do not know it, and I shall not let anyone say otherwise. *shrugs*[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John2 Posted April 17, 2003 Share Posted April 17, 2003 Love is the most wounderful thing in the world, all you need is love. Love is not something that can be explained, but shown. Some say that you love until it hurts, but that is impossible, because when you love all you get is more love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyGirl Posted April 17, 2003 Share Posted April 17, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by PiroMunkie [/i] [B][size=1]I could probably go and kill either one of those two people, and sure the living person would probably hate me, and they would be sad for a while. Chances are they wll eventually get over it and find someone else. You cannot just find another person if the one that I killed is the one you truly loved, and yet they hate me for it. It is so much easier to hate, than to face one's own overwhelming ignorance.[/size] [/B][/QUOTE] [color=deeppink]Your opinions are supremely well-stated, Piro, I definitely respect everything that you said :whoops: However, I do question the section that I have quoted. Anyone who has loved and lost someone dear to them knows that it is healthy to find someone new to love. Simply because you lost your first true love doesn't mean that you should wallow in your own sorrow; it's almost human instinct to want to be happy. For example, when my brother died I know that I would be a much bigger mess if I didn't have the love of Erik in my life. I was always pretty down about things before I met him, but I masked it with my emotions and slowly convined myself that I was happy. If my brother had died before I had the structural support of Erik, I would definitely be lost right now. Erik has become a substitute for the Eric that I lost. And while our love is a different level than what my brother and I had, I'll never forget the huge place that he held in my heart. Erik replaces a lot of what was lost, but there's always that 'special place in my heart' that my brother permanately resided [and still does]. Just because one love is lost and a new one is found doesn't mean that the first one has to be forgotten. You can still love that first person completely, even if your new love takes on a secondary role in your life. I don't know if that makes sense to you, I was trying to think of how to describe it while i was typing the reply :) And, in all actuality, I totally thought that the idea of love was only destined for movies and romance novels. Little did I know that someone can give themselves to you when you're least expecting it or when you're least receptive to it. I was very reluctant to enter the relationship I'm in now because I thought that it would be doomed to become another ******, half-*** fling that would throw me into a larger, inevitable downward spiral. But I've slowly opened myself up to the idea of loving someone unconditionally. It's a choice, yes, but a lot of it simply happens. You feel yourself becoming more and more comfortable and more and more loving, and that's when you know that you love the person you're with. It's a process; at times one that I was unsure and skeptical of, but it plots itself out. I dunno, when it happens you'll know and you'll be happy. I used to shun the idea but longed for love at the same time. It was a vicious cycle, I just hate to hear people completely shunning the idea; it's such a lonely and painful emotion. I went through it, and I'm glad that my opinion is changed. Ok, this is long enough. I hope it all sounds reasonable :)[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted April 17, 2003 Share Posted April 17, 2003 [color=black][size=1][font=rockwell] I don't think it's right for someone to claim they know what love is. Although I've never been in love, and I really don't have the right stance to say so, that is what I think. Because today the word love means so many things. It can mean you like something; it can mean what it means; and it is just used in so many different ways. People use it so freely, and I don't think that's exactly right. To me it is somewhat of a powerful word if used in the right occurances. No one really really knows what love is. It's a feeling, or somewhere around there, that I've never even had. And how do you know love if you can't really [i]truly[/i] even know what it is in the first place, since it's not something you can learn. It just happens. Another point: how do you even know if you're actually in love, or if it's something else? I'm sure some of you'll say you have this special "feeling" for that person, that it's like you were meant for eachother. Maybe it is so, but maybe what it all comes down to is purely habitual and intuitional behaviors. All mammals such as ourselves are meant to reproduce in order to further our chain in life. Could not love just be an instinctal thing? I don't know; and no one knows. Once I do know, I'll get back to you, though. All I know is there probably is something called love, but that's about all. Don't be offended if my stance up above bothers you, it's just my way of thinking.[/color][/size][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fate Posted April 17, 2003 Share Posted April 17, 2003 [color=teal]I don't think there is a way to really explain love. It's complicated, yet easy in a sort of sense... I do know that there is no such thing as "love at first sight," because such sayings as that are for the shallow and the ignorant. You don't fall in love with someone's personality with their appearance, you know? I haven't experienc[size=4]ed[/size] love, but I am experiencing love now. This guy is very special to me. My whole world revolves around him. He's everything that I could possibly ask for, maybe even more. He's so wonderful... I hope he realizes how I feel about him. There is no one else for me. I want us to last forever. If there is a God, I do believe that my boyfriend was put on this earth just for me. There is nobody else. He's my everything. To me, there's the word "perfect," then there is him. I hope that everyone will someday have someone as special as he is to me. Te amo, mi amor.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kei Posted April 17, 2003 Share Posted April 17, 2003 [color=royalblue]"Love is a many splendored thing." lol To me, love is something that just can't be described. It's just a plateau of happiness that's pretty much beyond explanation. When you're with the person you love, it's just like you're in one of those floaty dream sequence thingies. Everything is just perfect. It doesn't matter what happens, just as long as you're with that person. And when you're apart, all you can think about is him or her (along with other important things, like your life ^_~). I've only had that happen to me once, but it didn't last long, and I was only five. Oo; Love might have changed, but that's how I remember it.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintermute Posted April 17, 2003 Share Posted April 17, 2003 I really really hope there isn't one love for everyone, because if there is I think I may be very lonely. Circumstances are horrible things. As is geography, long distance does not work. Here's hoping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChibiV Posted April 17, 2003 Share Posted April 17, 2003 Love, I don't know. I thought I'm in love, but I always confused myself if I actually love that person or I just want to fool around. :bawl: For my previous experiences, I thought that I love him, because my feeling is so strong, which is different from any other feeling that I felt before. Then again, that strange feeling is gone, and I begin to doubt myself. Is love really an everlasting thing or just a feeling in a minute and fades away by the times? Perhaps, I haven't found the right one yet, that why I don't know what really true love is. :bawl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Macaiodh Posted April 17, 2003 Share Posted April 17, 2003 [color=darkblue]"If music be the food of love, play on; give me excess of it, that, surfeiting, the appetite may sicken, and so die." [i]--Twelfth Night[/i] I won't be claiming to know anything about love any time in the near future, as some of you can well imagine. I know about family love, & friendship love, but romantic love? It's going to take a lot for me to really believe in that again. Maybe for others. But not for me. I don't see how I could possibly allow it to happen again.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintermute Posted April 17, 2003 Share Posted April 17, 2003 For me one of the most fascinating things about the way humans work is that so many people strive to find love, and almost always are badly hurt by it. I'm no exception. It's like moths to a flame. In a way, I envy the people who can just put it aside, break themselves out of the cycle, and in a way I pity them. By saving themselves from the scorching flame, they condemn themselves to the cold. Hey, I should write that down. Somewhere less transient, I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted April 17, 2003 Share Posted April 17, 2003 I really think love just happens. It hasn't ever seriously happened to me, not romantically anyway, and I don't expect it to any time soon. Now, I do care a whole lot about my current girlfriend. I think she's one of the most awesome people I've ever had the pleasure of knowing. However, as much as I love her in one sense of the word, I can't really see myself loving her enough to consider marriage(or sex) as an option. A semi-serious, non-sexual, monogamous relationship is hard enough for me to get used to at this point. I don't even want to think about one that lasts until death. -Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amibasuki Posted April 17, 2003 Share Posted April 17, 2003 [FONT=arial]I don't understand love that well, considering I don't think I've been in real love before. but there is one thing that I do know: it's more than just a feeling of infatuation. like, when I hear a friend of mine say, "Oh, I love So-and-So so much," and I ask them why they think that, they tell me "I think about him all the time, I'd die for him, I want to be with him every second of the day." [i]that[/i], my friend, is infatuation. when you first start dating someone, of course you're gonna get butterflies and be on this high whenever you're around them, because you're just getting to know him/her and find out how great (s)he is. but what about after a couple of months when the both of you have gotten comfortable around each other, and the giddiness starts wearing off? would you still feel as 'in love' with that person as when you two first started going out? real love is supposed to strengthen over time instead of diminish, even if things may not be as interesting as before. as a side note, here's some advice that a teacher of mine told our class about love: if you think that you're in love with someone, take a look at the reasons why you're with them. [/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted April 17, 2003 Share Posted April 17, 2003 Excellent point, ami. I think your more or less revealed the opinion I didn't know I had. Your example is [i]exactly[/i] how many high school relationships get jacked up. People believe that they're in love because they're finding out how great a person is in the first couple months. However, the [i]other[/i] side of that person isn't going to come out, naturally, until he/she is comfortable and no longer feels the need to necessarily impress their partner. -Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinnyLyn Posted April 17, 2003 Share Posted April 17, 2003 Indeed, love is a many definition word. Too easy slung around. For example: I [i]love[/i] my God. I [i]love[/i] my mom. I [i]love[/i] cheesecake. I [i]love[/i] my dog. I [i]love[/i] my closest friends. I [i]love[/i] my mentors. I [i]love[/i] my darlin'. *smiles at him* It's all different. Most of the stuff I've heard described could fit in several categories, which scared me when I was younger. See, I have had several older male friends (re: mentors) over the course of my life. One day, in a fit of something akin to sinful horror, I asked my mother if I could love an older man without any of the "between the sheets" love. She told me it was possible. Which was a big relief. Would I do anything for cheesecake? Probably. Would I die in a close friend's stead? You bet. Would I change myself to please a mentor? Most likely. Here's what it comes to, for me: swearing yourself to one person (whether that is for all your life, or for the time that you swear yourself to, depends). When you would be that person's best friend, worst critic, best lover, like a parent, like a child, wanting to change for that person, but also wanting to help that person become the best they can be. It's a lot about sacrifices, too. Constant thought is an iffy thing. Stalkers can do that as well as people in love. So love is a two way thing (that's a given). Real love is not about one person giving their entire selves up for the other, but about both giving themselves up to each other, and giving parts of themselves (physically, spiritually, what have you) that they would never give to another. I could possibly be on the brink of love myself. Only a few times have I felt something close to the bottom end of this, but in the one case, he wanted me to give up myself without him giving himself up, and in the other, he wanted to give himself all up, but refused to let me give myself up. Love is about growing. And becoming better people for it. Making others happy is a start, but helping them discover themselves as well as you discovering yourself...it's wonderful. Have I rambled enough? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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