Shaun Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 There are just some people in the world you have to be mean to though. I have found that out working in retail. Anyone who works with the public would understand, I'm sure. These people come in, and will NOT leave or shut up unless you are rude to them. It's like they want to be put in their place or something. Weird. But anyway, if you ever see that out of me, you've seen a rare thing! I think it's happened maybe 5 times in 5 years. Go figure. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillieFan Posted May 3, 2003 Share Posted May 3, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Darkness [/i] [B]This has been bugging me alot lately. I am the "nice guy" and it seems like I've been coming up pretty short. Before I got involved in the long relationship I had, I got way more "attention" than I do now. I think I'm giving off some kind of safe vibe or something. I'm not used to this at all. There is something that girls like about a guy with an edge, and right now mine is dull. Heck, I thought that learning how to please a woman better emotionally would add to my worth. Anyways, I've decided to get everyone else's opinion. Do you believe the nice guys finish last? Why or why not? [/B][/QUOTE] I say no. I happen to really care for nice people (although I'm not looking right now because I've found someone already. . .I hope he's all right ;;^.^;; there was some big storms near where he lives a day and a half ago and I haven't heard from him since ;;^.^;; ) My point before I digressed is that being nice will eventually work much better for you than being mean/promiscous/mental case/fill in the blank. IRL, those kind of people may get feared, they may even be able to buy someone's affection: but they will not be loved because the most important thing for a lasting relationship is for both involved to show respect and kindness to each other. If you don't have either of those qualities, then no relationship will work: if you have one or both, almost anything else about you will be overlooked. Sorry for going on like that and practicing psychology without a license, it's just my opinion. hehe ~.^ Lea and Roxie: I totally agree with you. If there's one thing that absolutely disgusts me ::cringe:: it's people that think they're something because they've "been around." I don't see that as a sign of "hey, he's cool," I see it as a sign of being weak, insecure, or, with some of what can happen to you, incredibly stupid. I mean, I wouldn't go out with someone who played Russian roulette for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintermute Posted May 3, 2003 Share Posted May 3, 2003 [quote] There are just some people in the world you have to be mean to though. I have found that out working in retail. Anyone who works with the public would understand, I'm sure. [/quote] God yes. I work in catering, and there have been many times when I've asked myself whether it'd be worth being fired to punch this obstinate little piece of...... Never done it though. Smile. Nod. Get them whatever ludicrous thing they've asked for after being served whatever it was they asked for in the first place THEN changing their minds, in the knowledge that they probably won't eat it anyway. But I override such instints! You have to, if you want to go anywhere other than prison! I am a nice guy when I'm not at work, doing hard work for peanuts, I promise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cora Jane 2 Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 [font=arial][size=1]Ok I would have posted earlier, but I have been busy. Anywho. I don't think nice guys always finish last. As a graduating senior in high school, I see many people and wonder why the hell they would date some one like who they are dating when they obviously deserve better. But yah, if some one who is a "player" and is just not really the kinda guy I would like to date.... if ya know what I mean, then fine let them have their fun. I personally like a guy who has respect for me and for others, and I hold that to a high standard. I also will give second chances. If some one screws up and is sorry I will consider a second chance... lol.... damn I am way to nice some times... *sigh* ah well though. But know I don't think nice guys finish last. It may take longer than other "bad" guys... but it is well worth it. *nods* yup! Definately worth it!! Chin up guys, the best is yet to come... [/font][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carren Heart Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by MistressRoxie [/i] [B][color=#9933ff]THANK YOU! I am so glad I'm not the only person who's "old fashioned" and doesn't believe in pre-marital sex. I think it's the same thing with both nice guys and girls. I think a true gentleman will not be turned off by virginity. Afterall, if he was, then he isn't a getleman/nice guy, now is he? ;)[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] *Claps* I'm a guy and i agree with you whole heartedily in fact, i know myself enough to exstablish that i'll never have pre-martial sex. I think it shows conmitment and respect toward the one person i'll share my life with! plus i consider it apart of my personal code of honor to wait! But i don't blame others for thier actions (after all sex is tempting.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChibiV Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 Well, it's just that bad guys seem to be more outstanding, interesting, and mysterious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_dark_soul Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 Yeah nice guys finish last i have never come up ahead because of being nice and it bothers me but we can only be who we are so i keep truckin on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness Posted May 6, 2003 Author Share Posted May 6, 2003 Some of you have mentioned that you think pre-marital is wrong. I respect that, but what happens if the person you end up with is horrible at ... well you know. You know, alot of relationships break up for that reason. As for the nice guy thing, I now think it is all about confidence without cockiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintermute Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 Mysterious? Really? most of the bad guys I know are shallow as a puddle. Not all of them, I suppose, but most of them certainly. Tim Redmayne, for example. If he can't eat it, attack it, play rugby with it or sleep with it, he's not interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness Posted May 7, 2003 Author Share Posted May 7, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Wintermute [/i] [B]Mysterious? Really? most of the bad guys I know are shallow as a puddle. Not all of them, I suppose, but most of them certainly. Tim Redmayne, for example. If he can't eat it, attack it, play rugby with it or sleep with it, he's not interested. [/B][/QUOTE] It's not the stupid ones that you have to worry about. The ones I know are clever. It just frustrating sometimes because as a guy, you can totally see what the "bad guy" is doing. The girls just can't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Truth Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 Um, I don't know for sure, I'm the same way thou, ALOT of girls talk to me n the past, and I thought they where interested in me, and well, when The time came when I asked them out, when I thought I was sure, they'll say no, and then when I ask them why they talked to me so much, they always say that they feel safe around me, or they trust me to keep secrets and stuff, witch entirely, is not a bad thing, cause atleast now, I'm in a happy relationship with the girl I trust the most, and have beem seeing for the last two years. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Mage Prince Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Yeah, I think nice guys do not finsh last. My Girlfirend says I'm a nice guy and we have been together over 2 years. (3 years on the 13th of december :)). So that is y I think nice giys do not finsh last!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinobi Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Well...I really noticed this that in my area, nice chaps like me seem to never get girlfreinds (sure i'm not the nicest looking guy, infact i am not nice looking.) But i have ALOT of girls who are very close friends of mine who always say..."Ewan your really a nice guy, your what boyfriends should be like" yet i still don;t get a girlfriend. The thing that i am getting at is that the people who are getting pretty girls...actually just girls FULL STOP are Neds. Neds are people who run about looking for fights and are usually junkies. They carry weapons and run about in gangs. People actually go outta their way just to hang around with these people! I MEAN COMON! I am not a geek or anthing infact i am VERY popular yet still no girlfriend...it is actually starting to piss me off now...>_<. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted May 9, 2003 Share Posted May 9, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Shinobi [/i] [B]Well...I really noticed this that in my area, nice chaps like me seem to never get girlfreinds (sure i'm not the nicest looking guy, infact i am not nice looking.) But i have ALOT of girls who are very close friends of mine who always say..."Ewan your really a nice guy, your what boyfriends should be like" yet i still don;t get a girlfriend. The thing that i am getting at is that the people who are getting pretty girls...actually just girls FULL STOP are Neds. Neds are people who run about looking for fights and are usually junkies. They carry weapons and run about in gangs. People actually go outta their way just to hang around with these people! I MEAN COMON! I am not a geek or anthing infact i am VERY popular yet still no girlfriend...it is actually starting to piss me off now...>_<. [/B][/QUOTE] I hear ya man, I hear ya. The girls always told me that I was what they wanted in a boyfriend. But I've never yet to have one here that thought that way, or wasn't psyhotically obsessed....(long story) So yeah, maddening isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ikai Okuri Posted May 10, 2003 Share Posted May 10, 2003 Guys, let me give you some advice. Most girls (I said most XD) prefer a guy that's friendly, polite and nice over a loud noisy showoff. My brother's a good example. He's very popular with the girls in his grade, mainly because he stands out. 95% of the lads in his class are all doing stuff like burping, making sexist jokes, showing off, etc, which he doesn't do. Just be your nice self and in the end it'll pay off, believe me. :) ;) And some girls might fancy you without you knowing it, y'know. They might just not feel ready for a relationship yet. Don't worry about not getting a girlfriend in life, there's still plenty of time left. So yeah. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted May 10, 2003 Share Posted May 10, 2003 Yeah, I guess I can't complain. I'm fine being single. Its just really odd how all the nice girls go out with jerks. They deserve better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinnyLyn Posted May 10, 2003 Share Posted May 10, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Shaun [/i] [B]But I've never yet to have one here that thought that way, or wasn't psyhotically obsessed....(long story) [/B][/QUOTE] I've got some time. Let's hear that long story. Now, back in the REAL world, I think it's simply maddening that guys who know better, [i]should[/i] know better, constantly flaunt their "manliness", or hormones gone to the head. I just don't get it. But the people we want to reach are not people who generally spend a good portion of their lives locked into online lives. Aren't we all just a bunch of suckers? :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted May 11, 2003 Share Posted May 11, 2003 Hense the reason I have limited numbers of guy friends. That sort of thing makes me want to deck them. heh. I'm thinking I'm correct in saying the only way you can get with someone you like is to respect them as a person, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegitto4 Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 Partially, you must actually be able to have an intelligent conversation with that person, and are generally attracted to you, and you to them, then there is a small basis upon which to build. Thew problem, is finding a girl(in my area at least) that can actually have something intelligent to say, and who will actually think about what they want in a guy, not just a pretty face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackroseoni Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 All I have to say is most women seem to enjoy the 'danger' inherent to the 'not so nice' guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbfrontmanvdp Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Easy question...just be yourself. As long as you be urself then you have nothing no worry about. Just think about it, if you be yourself when trying to go out with someone and it doesnt work then it was meant not to be. Dont let others change you, everyone has there own personality and everyone has to go along with it. Besides i know someone who acted completely different around girls and when they got to know him, they hated him and i pretty much dont blame them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Well, i consider myself a nice guy, i open doors, but i guass something is wrong with me though im younger than you but still, i have some girl-Friends, but no girlfirends, i dont date, im not shy though, i aint afraid talking with anyone, and actually for the quastion of does nice girls finish last i rather say its the opposite, i prefer a nice girl... and so, i am alone bla blah, etc... but im quiet happy with myself that way, because thats who i am and i learned to except it, hopefully some girl will except it too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eversman Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Hello. Nice to meet you all, I'm Solid's brother, Eversman. I read the first page, and I surely didn't feel like reading the other four ones (2300 PM now here at lovely Israel), but I got the idea of this thread, and now I'm writing my post. About.. three years ago, at 6'th, I was so different from what I'm now. All I looked was popularity and girls. Well, you know how it is at 6'th grade. This year (9'th grade) something has changed. I don't know how, but I mentaly grew up A LOT, and I realized a couple of things: I realized that I'm in a period in life when I', supposed to have fun. Solid may tell you, most of the time, I smile. In school, with friends. I laugh. Specialy with my close-friends, because I think they're the most important thing I got right now. I also realized that popularity and girls are sure important, but they are not worth **** if you're getting it by not being yourself. That goes specialy to girls. I know most of guys aproaches girls and starts their matcho-ego-games with them. I just find it funny. But, I guess, that's what girls in our (Solid and me) look for, and.. I'm not planning to give it to them. Not this way anyway. That's why I look forward to high-school. Hope I will have some deeper fellows, and shallow like I have now. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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