Afi

[vegeta rocker]

I was wondering if anybody else thought the Girls not Grey music video (AFI) looks anime oriented.
For those who haven't seen the video the girl featured looks like Rei from Evangelion or some other token blue haired anime girl. There are cherry blossoms everywhere, also. Give your thoughts.

[Angelus]

the video looks really good, and it complements the song very well.


Also, their new album "Sing the Sorrow" is a solid album and I would suggest it to anyone.

[Kaola Su]

Hmmm..I havent seen the video, but I know a little about AFI and I was wondering, are there any songs you would reccommend to download? Just curious!

Kaola

[Failed_Attempts]

AFI songs to download, eh? Hmm, let me think for a moment.
"This Celluloid Dream"--Wonderful lyrics, accompanied by great music
"...but home is nowhere"--that's 15 minutes long, but it takes a little break in the middle to break into dialogue, Davey (the lead singer) yells, quite a bit in the beginning.
"Leaving song pt.II"--I can't quite remember how it sounds @_@; Good song though. ^_^;
"Bleed Black"--It's about cutting (self-mutilation) but, you barely notice at all! Wonderful song too. ^_^; I love this, as well as the others.
And uhm...I think that's all I can think of now. ^_^; I hope that helps into your decision!

[Guest Matt]

[color=red][b]Meh, I got the "Sing the Sorrow" cd after hearing that they were great. I wasn't too impressed. I have heard alot better. Now I wished I had saved my money so I could the new Less Than Jake cd that came out today. :\[/b][/color]

[Semjaza]

Well that's what you get for getting what is a rather weak CD and their first on a new label lol. I'd pick up some of the older stuff if you're interested... Personally I like The Art of Drowning.

[WW2]

I've seen the videon, in fact I've downloaded it from their official site.
I does in deed have some anime references, such as the Rei look alike, that weird looking bunny, and the cherry blossom petals flying around.

All in all its a kick*** song, but I haven't really heard any of their other stuff.

[Guest Renegade V2]

Yeah, I like AFI. Not nearly as much as I used too though. When I heard them on THPS3 I fell in love with them.

I bought Sing The Sorrow yesterday and I loved it. I really like Death of Seasons and Bleed Blank (or was is Bleed Black?) . The hidden track sucks though, it's my least favorite on the CD. It's very bland and boring, hidden tracks are supposed to be better then the rest of the CD damnit.

[Penguin Warlord]

I hate AFI... crybaby sellouts.

[spike speigel]

I really do doubt that the stuff you are mentioning is anime references. Just because the girl has blue hair means nothing, really. She does look a bit like Rei, but the two really aren't as similar some of you make it sound. And think about this: Anime isn't the only thing that has Cherry Blossoms.

[PiroMunkie]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Failed_Attempts[/i]
[B]AFI songs to download, eh? Hmm, let me think for a moment.
*insert list here*[/B][/QUOTE][size=1]I notice those are all from [i]Sing the Sorrow[/i]...

To Kaola Su, just type in "AFI" on whatever you use to download songs, and choose what you think sounds good. Chances are you might find a lot of [i]Sing the Sorrow[/i] tracks (especially [i]Girl's Not Grey[/i]), I urge you to try others as well.

You could even go to their site at [url]http://www.afireinside.net[/url], go in their music section and look at the different CD's and vinyls they have and find songs you think sound decent. You can even look at the lyrics (though, the lyrics for [i]Sing the Sorrow[/i] have not been put up). While you are at it, join the mailing list, buy some stuff from the online store and support the band in whatever way possible. ^__^;;[/size][quote][i]Originally posted by Matt[/i]
[b][color=red]Meh, I got the "Sing the Sorrow" cd after hearing that they were great. I wasn't too impressed. I have heard alot better. Now I wished I had saved my money so I could the new Less Than Jake cd that came out today. :\[/b][/color][/quote][size=1]... I am looking at the bands you have listed in your signature, so I can see why you probably think this way toward a band like AFI.

But, if you are still interested in AFI, I would follow Semjaza's advice. Also, download their songs first if you are skeptical as to whether or not you want to actually buy an album.[/size][quote][i]Originally posted by Penguin Warlord[/i]
[b]I hate AFI... crybaby sellouts.[/b][/quote][size=1]I love you, too.[/size][quote][i]Originally posted by vegeta rocker[/i]
[b]I was wondering if anybody else thought the Girls not Grey music video (AFI) looks anime oriented.
For those who haven't seen the video the girl featured looks like Rei from Evangelion or some other token blue haired anime girl.[/b][/quote][size=1](Oh... [i]this[/i] AFI thread... ^_^)

I could see where one might get that idea, but I doubt it has anything to do with anime.[/size]

[Subversive]

Although I personally like some of their older stuff more, and absolutely will skip GNG everytime it comes on on my CD player, I love Sing the Sorrow. I personally love the songs Failled_Attempts mentioned along with some others. If you like "MTV punk bands" AFI might not be your cup of tea, but otherwise look into it. Back to the original topic posed by you...Obviously it looks Japanese related.

[Semjaza]

This isn't directed at anyone, just a random statement based on various people I know.

AFI has been around for years and always been doing the same thing. I hate how they, and The Ataris (who are being stuck into the "The" band category and largely ignored - although the new CD is pretty bleh) and a couple other bands, who have been struggling and putting out solid material for several years are suddenly plopped into this "MTV punk band" grouping. Blame the big labels they finally managed to get onto making them some decent videos and pushing them into larger recognition.

To me there isn't even any comparison between that and a group that basically came out of nowhere and is all over the place due to a Blink182 pop punk influenced sound. To say that about AFI makes little sense to me, unless all you've heard is the singles off of Sing the Sorrow.

[Mitch]

[size=1][font=century gothic][color=gray] Well, I have not seen the video, nor would I want to. Girl's Not Grey is an okay song, but they have a lot better stuff, even on Sing The Sorrow itself.

I took Semjaza's advice, and bought one of AFI's older albums. [i]The Art of Drowning[/i] took awhile to get used to for me, especially some of the songs--but I love "6 to 8," very good song. I'm certain there's other good songs on that record, but to be truthful, I haven't listened to it too much. I listen mostly to classic rock stuff anyways, but I like anything that sounds good to my ears.

But yeah, I hate people that say bands are influenced by something they're not--as Tony has pointed out. And I hate people that instantly write a band off after perhaps only buying one CD or perhaps only listening to one or a few other singles..It's not the right way to get to a band.

Music changes, and so do bands. Their sounds constantly change and mold and meld. Writing off AFI over just this one CD itself is not right. Seriously, give things a chance.

If you like them you'll like them, if you won't you won't. What matters is you actually gave them a chance.

I'm certain many of you in this thread have given them a chance, or you do like them. That's good. Just understand that a band does not sound the same on all of their albums--they certainly do to a point, but to me, AFI isn't really branded as "punk" in my head. Especially considering that almost all of the songs--if not all--on Sing The Sorrow are mellow, slow songs. And they also certainly sound different than what I have categorized as punk on [i]The Art of Drowning[/i] too.[/size][/font][/color]

[Subversive]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Semjaza Azazel [/i]
[B]This isn't directed at anyone, just a random statement based on various people I know.

AFI has been around for years and always been doing the same thing. I hate how they, and The Ataris (who are being stuck into the "The" band category and largely ignored - although the new CD is pretty bleh) and a couple other bands, who have been struggling and putting out solid material for several years are suddenly plopped into this "MTV punk band" grouping. [/B][/QUOTE]

I was putting them out of the grouping.

[Semjaza]

I know you aren't, that's why I said no one here in particular lol. Your post reminded me of all the people who seem to want to stick them into that grouping suddenly though. Like the person referring to them as "crybaby sellouts" and so on.

Sorry for the confusion.

[Dan Rugh]

Other great songs with the "new sound" that aren't on the regular Sing the Sorrow CD are "Synesthesia", "Now the World", and "Reiver's Music". All three of these songs are amazing, in my opinion. Others that I like are "Paper Airplanes (Makeshift Wings)" "Silver and Cold" Dancing Through Sunday" "Bleed Black".... lol I love the whole thing!!!

[Guest Fiasco]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Matt [/i]
[B][color=red][b]Meh, I got the "Sing the Sorrow" cd after hearing that they were great. I wasn't too impressed. I have heard alot better. Now I wished I had saved my money so I could the new Less Than Jake cd that came out today. :\[/b][/color] [/B][/QUOTE]

...And you wanted to buy a LTJ CD? Right. You do that. Listen to stuff from like Black Sails In The Sunset. That's really good. Or Very Proud Of Ya. Or Shut Your Mouth and Open Your Eyes is also excellent.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Penguin Warlord [/i]
[B]I hate AFI... crybaby sellouts. [/B][/QUOTE]

How are they crybaby sellouts? Because their first CD is different than their latest just means that the band matured into a different sound. Excuse them for showing they have talent and not just by playing power chords and palm muting. Your idiotic comment just makes me feel idiotic too. Thanks for lowering my idioticity. ;) Appreciate it.

I mean, AFI changed their sound from their first CD. Now they have much more MEANINGFUL songs. If you read the lyrics from STS and ATASF you'll see a growth in lyrics.

[PiroMunkie]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Fiasco[/i]
[B]...And you wanted to buy a LTJ CD? Right. You do that. Listen to stuff from like Black Sails In The Sunset. That's really good. Or Very Proud Of Ya. Or Shut Your Mouth and Open Your Eyes is also excellent.[/b][/quote][size=1]I must agree. [i]Black Sails in the Sunset[/i] is probably my favorite album as a whole that AFI has put out.

Of course, the others are good as well.[/size][quote][b]I mean, AFI changed their sound from their first CD. Now they have much more MEANINGFUL songs. If you read the lyrics from STS and ATASF you'll see a growth in lyrics.[/B][/QUOTE][size=1]Again, I agree.

As much as I love [i]I Wanna Mohawk (But Mom Won't Let Me Get One)[/i], [i]Cereal Wars[/i], [i]Cruise Control[/i], and other songs from [i]Answer That and Stay Fashionable[/i] or [i]Very Proud of Ya[/i] they lyrically cannot measure up to songs from their later albums. Their evolution as a band is impressive.[/size][quote][i]Originally posted by Dan Rugh[/i]
[b]Other great songs with the "new sound" that aren't on the regular Sing the Sorrow CD are "Synesthesia", "Now the World", and "Reiver's Music".[/b][/quote][size=1]Heh, yeah. ^__^ I have become quite fond of [i]Now the World[/i] myself.[/size]

[soundwave2x]

all youll are not totally there. if you're watching the new afi videos, that suck and that the music sucks. well ya ive seen it, it sucks, but of course it looks like anime oriented. you'd have to be stupid to now see that!!

[Japan]

I saw the video an it was ok...not ne of the best videos I ever seen, but ok. When I was watching the video, I sort of thought of that possibilty, but never gave it to much thought.

[Avatarofkaine]

The urge to conform astounds me, I congratulate those on bringing the point of MTV "punk" bands to the fore, and they are truley far from punk. For those of you who would like to see what real punk music is, try the Sex Pistols, yes I realise that the music was quite basic, thus is the point of Punk music, it is an image, very little of the punk scene is actually about the music.

Now as for AFI at the moment vs times past, I agree with anyone who mentioned how a band grows, any band who has had staying power has gone though some serious changes, they have had to to remain a viable commodity in a world of pop princesses and we wish we were bad boy's.

Take a look at the new Metalica cd, they are now in my opinion Nu-metal and I am not at all happy. Metalica were classics, with songs like whiskey in the jar and the like they were in a field of their own, but with St anger they have joined legions of "hardcore" metal bands and wil undoubtedly lose all of their pioneering status.

While AFI have significantly adapted, I am happy to say they are still a band who will make music for the meaning of it, not for the maximum recognition with the broadest of audiences, and as such, in the words of Davey Havok (band frontman) they are an unclassifiable band who make dark, slightly agressive music.

My suggestion to you all is to listen to the cd with lyrics in hand, you will understand a whole lot more of the meaning.

[Epsilon]

Yeah, she look like Rei only in a fuuny out fit. It seems to revole around anime because the animal looks like something out of a movie done by the person who made Spirited away and junk. But if you ever see that and the Daft Punk videos you'd think they both bands like anime or something.

[Dan Rugh]

I saw the new video today for "The Leaving Song Part II" on Much Music errr.... they're calling it Fuse now. It wasn't anything special really. Pretty much them dressed up in suits performing on a theatre stage with a writhing crowd. I still liked it, though, just because the song was already good. heh

[PiroMunkie]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Dan Rugh[/i]
[B]Pretty much them dressed up in suits performing on a theatre stage with a writhing crowd. I still liked it, though, just because the song was already good. heh[/B][/QUOTE][size=1]That is not just [i]any[/i] writhing crowd, foolio. Those are hardcore kids specifically hand-picked to be in the video. That "writhing" is hardcore dancing. It is crazy, lol. One of my friends kept doing it at Warped Tour. It is as amusing as it is fun and intriguing.

While the video probably could have been better, I still have to give credit to that aspect of it, lol.[/size]