Guest Matt Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 [color=red][b]Kevin Smith has to be the best director ever. His movies are comedy gold. Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy, Dogma, and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back are some of the best movies ever created. They never grow old, I can watch them again and again and never get tired of them. Jay's rap at the beginning of Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back is prolly one of the funniest things I have heard. Also the quote w/ George Carlin from the same movie about hitchhicking: (i'll spoiler it out because it is a little, ah, innapropriate.) [spoiler] Jay: Awww, man, you eat the cock?! George: If it will get me a couple hundred miles down the road, I'll take a shot in the mouth. Jay: But where're not gay. George: Gay, straight, it's the 90's. The line's a big grey area now. Jay: Well, there's a line here *points to line on the road*, and on this side of it, were're not gay.[/spoiler] Jay's Rap is also comedy gold: [spoiler] f*ck f*ck f*ck mother mother f*ck mother mother f*ck f*ck mother f*ck mother f*ck noinch noinch noinch one two one two three four noinch noinch noinch smokin weed smokin wiz doin coke drinkin beers drinkin beers beers beers rollin fatties smokin blunts who smokes the blunts? we smoke the blunts rollin blunts and smokin blunts uh...let me get a nickel bag fifteen bucks little man put that sh*t in my hand if that money doesn't show then you owe me owe me owe [/spoiler] I highley suggest all of you watch Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy, Dogma ( my personal fav), and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back (my second fav).[/b][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Kevin Smith is a great writer... Personally, I think he is an awful director. He rarely switches camera angles, or chooses poor ones... so basically you have a conversation between three or more people where the camera never moves (or maybe just between the two exact same angles) for minutes at a time. Normally that's somewhat up to the cinematographer... but not in Smith's movies. Anyway, the writing is good overall though. Dogma is okay, but I don't think it's as good as many people think. It's written like some fanfic by an angsty teenager who doesn't like his religion. Some of the stuff makes it seem like Smith is trying to make some deep, profound statement... but really it's just ridiculous if you know what the hell he is trying to make fun of. I think Kevin Smith should stick to writing comics (he recently did a Daredevil one) and other things involving human relationships instead. Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back is only good if you've seen the others I'd say. There's too many references back to them... So personally I like Mallrats and Clerks the best. Have you seen the Clerks animated series? I got it on DVD since they stopped showing it after the second episode on TV (the DVD has all 6 that were made). It's an acquired taste, but I love it. Definately check it out if you haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 He's a great comedian... I like his movies as far as the comedic aspect goes. I don't think I could watch any of them more than once, but yeah.... Except Dogma... I really liked that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Harris Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Dogma was a pretty good movie, in my opinion. Dogma and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back (which is hilarious if you get passed the "every other word is a curse word" dialogue of Jay) are the only two I've seen in full. I'll wait to get all five on DVD. I'm like you Transtic, I can't get enough of Dogma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manic Webb Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 I saw Dogma and Mallrats, and Kevin Smith is a hilarious. I hear the reason he made his own character, Silent Bob, a non-speaking character is because he can't act. Who'd have thunk? I haven't seen Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back, yet. I had a strong feeling that it would have a lot of references to old K. Smith movies, so I want to see either Clerks or Chasing Amy first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Harris Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 Not alot of them. It's mostly at the beginning and end of the movie. Alanis Morisette as God? Whodathunk? Smith is the master of dialogue, and Will Farrel is hilarious in this movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePikasElbow Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 I enjoy his movies. Very funny and witty in a time that's filled with comedy that involves people falling down or "hilarious" ethnic mismatches. A lot of people bash him for his writing and how immature and unnecessary it is, but that's just his style. It's really a personal preference. I personally love the long monologues about pointless things such as the rules of the food court in Mallrats and the Storm Troopers debate in Clerks. He does a lot of bold things though. Dogma was very risky, but he did it anyways. He is also one of the few people I've seen who portrayed gay people as nonstereotypes. And about his directing style, many hate it because it's not what we're used to seeing. Moviegoers these days rarely ever see a shot that last more than a few seconds, and if the camera doesn't move every 15 seconds, it becomes boring. I like the fact that he keeps the camera on his characters during talks, as it gives it more of a real aura to it. It also gives you more appreciation for the actors, as they fluently dish out there lines without interruption at all. And I've seen the Clerks cartoon series and love it. Very funny and I wish that ABC didn't cancel it. "We the jury hereby declare the defendant... BIG AMERICAN PARTY!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathBug Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 His movies are pretty good; I liked Dogma, especially the scenes with the angels. However, he should *not* write comic books, because he can't write the darn things on time. He started "Spider-Man/Black Cat: The Evil That Men Do" in May/June of last year. It's still not finished, and there are only five isues in the series! He's only done three! At least I'm not a DareDevil fan, because he's only done *one* issue of "DareDevil/Bullseye: The Target". The worst part about that is that Brian Micheal Bendis, the writer who does the normal monthly DareDevil series, says that he won't use the character of Bullseye until Smith finishes his series. I liked Dogma a lot, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 The directing is not what were used to, simply because that style is generally regulated to amateurish films where the director isn't really thinking about that sort of stuff. There are very few effective camera angles in any of his films, and I don't think something stationary makes anything feel more realistic... especially given the subject matter. If others think it works, that's cool... but I've watched too many movies to for me to believe that it's effective lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePikasElbow Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 I agree with you that his method of directing is close to many amateurs. The difference is, he is thinking about this stuff, he wants his angles this way. He's isn't absentminded, he knows what he wants and how he wants to do it. The style isn't for everyone, but I don't like it when people call him an incompetant director. His style isn't anything special and doesn't blow me away, but it's definitely not bad like many make it seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epitome Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 I like Mallrats and Dogma and Jay and Silent Bob, but I dont think hes that great of a director, but yea hes a great comedian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePikasElbow Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 Oh, has anyone seen An Evening With Kevin Smith? It's a DVD full of footage of Smith answering questions at colleges. There's nearly four hours of footage. He talks on everything from his movies, how he met his wife, and even the whole Superman movie fiasco. He even has a bizarre anecdote about Prince. Any Smith fan should pick it up. It's funnier than most of his movies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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