DeathBug Posted May 17, 2003 Share Posted May 17, 2003 They say that Necessity is the mother of Invention, so I say, let's put that to the test. Here's the challenge: I challenge any duelists to make the best deck they can *without* using any of the followng cards: Regeki Mirror Force Magic Jammer Trap Hole Monster Reborn Pot of greed Change of Heart Summoned skull Jinzo Magic cylinder Swords of Revealing Light Witch of the Black Forest Cyber Jar Blue Eyes White Dragon Imperial Order Mystical Space Typhoon Seven Tools of the Bandit Gemini Elves Dark Hole Axe of Despair Graceful Charity Heavy Storm Harpie's Feather Duster Sinister Serpant Sangan Torriential Tribute See, the point is, without some of the (admittedly) strongest and most useful cards in the game, a duelist would be forced to come up with new ways to combat opponents who will have some of those. At the worst, you'll have to be a little more creative. At the best, you might think of winning card combos heretofor unthought of. (So, is this a decent idea, or am I totally out in left field?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Altron Gundam Posted May 17, 2003 Share Posted May 17, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DeathBug [/i] [B]They say that Necessity is the mother of Invention, so I say, let's put that to the test. Here's the challenge: I challenge any duelists to make the best deck they can *without* using any of the followng cards: Regeki Mirror Force Magic Jammer Trap Hole Monster Reborn Pot of greed Change of Heart Summoned skull Jinzo Magic cylinder Swords of Revealing Light Witch of the Black Forest Cyber Jar Blue Eyes White Dragon Imperial Order Mystical Space Typhoon Seven Tools of the Bandit Gemini Elves Dark Hole Axe of Despair Graceful Charity Heavy Storm Harpie's Feather Duster Sinister Serpant Sangan Torriential Tribute See, the point is, without some of the (admittedly) strongest and most useful cards in the game, a duelist would be forced to come up with new ways to combat opponents who will have some of those. At the worst, you'll have to be a little more creative. At the best, you might think of winning card combos heretofor unthought of. (So, is this a decent idea, or am I totally out in left field?) [/B][/QUOTE] BEWD isn't a staple lol. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 I guess it's just a strong, popular, and some-what abused card. New players often base decks around the dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit Joeykuba Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 You've put up quite a challenge Deathbug... 'Specially since your making me give up Jinzo, BEWD, and Monster Reborn. Feh. I'll find a way. BTW, BEWD is a staple card since you can get it in a starter deck. Plus, there's bunch of card combos you can use for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathBug Posted May 18, 2003 Author Share Posted May 18, 2003 I *know* that BEWD isn't a staple, but I've seen it used so often I put it on the list. It's a nub staple, at any rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epitome Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 Ummm, without some of those cards, you cant make a good deck practically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathBug Posted May 18, 2003 Author Share Posted May 18, 2003 Well, that's the challenging part of the challenge, isn't it? I'm working on one, but it's hard, especially when you know your opponent will be using most of the cards on the list. I'm not arrogant enough to assume I'm the best duelist around, so I started this up to see if anyone else could have better luck. The point is to think outside of the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit Joeykuba Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 My Deck: -Ekibyo Drakmord (Clever little critter, ain't I?) x1 -Restructer Revolution x1 -Black Luster Soldier X1 -Black Luster Ritual x1 -Giant Soldier of Stone x2 -Wall of Illusion x1 -Negate Attack x1 -Germ Infection x1 -Just Desserts x1 -Fissure x1 -Ookazi x1 -Card Destruction x1 -Dunames Dark Witch x2 -Gravekeeper's Servant x1 - Buster Blader x1 -Giant Trunade x1 -Man-Eater Bug x2 -Sparks X1 -Hinotama x1 -Black Pendant x2 -Dark Magician x1 -Dark Magician Girl x1 -Vorse Raider x2 -Penguin Soldier x1 -Mystical Elf x1 -Dark Fire Soldier #2 x1 -White Magical Hat x1 -Michizure x2 -Battle Ox x1 -La Jinn the Mystical Genie of the lamp x1 - Labrynth Wall x2 -Shadow Ghoul x1 -Cosmo Queen x1 -Big Eye x1 -Copycat x1 -Mirror Wall x1 -Kunai with Chain x1 -Kuriboh x1 -Multiply x1 -Block Attack x1 -Tribute to the Doomed x1 -Dian Keto the Cure Master x1 -Wingweaver x1 That's a deck with 50 cards. Does it look okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo Tremaine Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 I'd have more Fissures and Tributes to the Doomed, seeing as Trap Hole ain't available, maybe in place of Ekibyo Drakmord. Spear Cretin could be useful too, if you wanted to bring back a monster. Also, I might have three Nimble Momongas (useful little things, they are) and/or Enchanted Javelins in there too, for more protection. In place of some others, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Bandit Joeykuba [/i] [B]BTW, BEWD is a staple card since you can get it in a starter deck. [/B][/QUOTE] Just because it's in a starter deck, doesn't mean its a staple. Would you consider Silverfang a staple? Besides, regardless of starter decks, BEWD really isn't anything too special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Altron Gundam Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Bandit Joeykuba [/i] [B]You've put up quite a challenge Deathbug... 'Specially since your making me give up Jinzo, BEWD, and Monster Reborn. Feh. I'll find a way. BTW, BEWD is a staple card since you can get it in a starter deck. Plus, there's bunch of card combos you can use for it. [/B][/QUOTE] A staple is a card that can be considered for any deck regardless of the theme such as Raigeki or Harpy's Feather Sweep. BEWD is not a staple ^^. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circ Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Well, you had a reason in removing him since he remains the most powerfull normal 2-tributes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotenksSSJ343 Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 Well best thing I can think of right now is some graceful charities 4 of every toon and toon world. Uh every ritual card and monster i can find and a set of Exodia. But I'm thinking of a better deck right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterdramon Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 You're only allowed to have 3 copies of any card (besides the forbidden and limited ones). My deck has only 4 of the cards mentioned, but it stinks. If you want to see it, go to a recent post in the Rate my Deck thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureWolf Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 I don't really understand the point of this challenge. If it was the "don't use any staple that is super rare or above" challenge to make a point, but not using staples that are readily available to anyone. If you can't even afford a starter deck, then you shouldn't be playing... The list and challenge would make more of a point if it didn't have cards that are common. Here's a more "point-making" list: Raigeki Mirror Force Magic Jammer (it's a common now, but let's let it slide since it's only in one starter) Jinzo Magic cylinder Swords of Revealing Light Imperial Order Mystical Space Typhoon (same as Magic Jammer) Seven Tools of the Bandit (same as MJ) Gemini Elves Axe of Despair Graceful Charity (same as MJ) Heavy Storm Harpie's Feather Duster Sinister Serpant Torriential Tribute Really, what point are you trying to make? If you were tyring to make the point that it's impossible to make a decent deck without an exorbant amount of cash or luck, then there's no point in putting things that can easily be obtained. If the list was like the one I just made, then I could show you a good deck, haha. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathBug Posted May 25, 2003 Author Share Posted May 25, 2003 I wasn't trying to make a point; I was thought that if we didn't use staples, we'd have to think harder on the decks and be more creative. Finances were not involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo Tremaine Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by AzureWolf [/i] [B]Really, what point are you trying to make? If you were tyring to make the point that it's impossible to make a decent deck without an exorbant amount of cash or luck, then there's no point in putting things that can easily be obtained. If the list was like the one I just made, then I could show you a good deck, haha. :) [/B][/QUOTE] That isn't the point of the thread. The point is to see whether people can make up for not having any staples and to see whether such a deck can be made. It's just an interesting challange to do. Like DeathBug said, we'd have to think harder and be more creative. Some cards, although easily obtained (e.g. in Starter Decks), can still be really crucial to a deck. And I'm sure some people do build decks from scratch without a starter, although getting a rulebook and playing field may be difficult, but that's not the point. The point is to try and create a deck which could be used IF you didn't have any staples. It's a hypothetical situation and an interesting challenge. Whether it would or could actually happen is another question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiteS23 Posted June 22, 2003 Share Posted June 22, 2003 here's a deck that you can build. Try using maha vailo and lots of equip cards. You could make him insanely strong with just a few malevolent nuzzlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marik_Duelist Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 ok, i dont have bewd, my fave 6 cards in my deck are harpies brother, marie the fallen one, dark magician, rebd, cure mermaid and dian keto the cure master. i dont want or need bewd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Solo Tremaine [/i] [B]I might have three Nimble Momongas (useful little things, they are) for more protection.[/B][/QUOTE] Try Bubonic Vermin. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marik_Duelist Posted July 9, 2003 Share Posted July 9, 2003 i started off only using booster decks legend of bewd and labrynth of nightmeres. then i bought two starter decks: joey and yugi. i wish i also bought the pegasus starter deck but the shop doesnt sell them anymore, shame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Altron Gundam Posted July 9, 2003 Share Posted July 9, 2003 Again. harpiesbrother1, please post on topic. You're posts are just random and offtopic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoT LaVa 904 Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Wuts a Staple? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo Tremaine Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Please try and keep posts above a certain length, HoT LaVa. Were it not to do with the topic, that would be an entirely SPAM post. A staple is a card that should be in every deck, regardless of the theme. Some of the cards listed aren't exactly staples, but can be very useful to have in a Deck anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfofDarkstar Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 at 1 point i had a deck with none of the staples. it worked really well. but i messed with it so much now i dont think i can get it back that way. the best way to make a good none staple deck is to think what monsters are more commonly used and cards (such as the staples) and think of ways to replace them with more unused cards (i wish i didnt mess with my deck so i could show you it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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