Tupak Shakur-still alive?

[Senor Ding Dong]

Okay, these other message boards had a topic about this debatable question-is 2pak(Tupak) Shakur still alive? Did he stage hisown death? I found this website w/some evidence dealing both ways.

[url]http://www.tupacfans.com/alive/index.php[/url]

The uncontested facts:

After leaving the Tyson fight on Saturday September 7, 1996, Tupac was alledgedly shot 5 times. He lived through the shooting and was taken to a nearby hospital. He was pronounced dead on Friday September 13, 1996.

The suspicious facts:

Friday the 13th is a very suspicious day.

There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital.

In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral.

The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the executive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting.

The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I ain't Mad at Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyes On Me. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend, which is very similar to how he was shot in real life.

Interestingly, Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "2Pac". His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli". The second video to be released by the name Makaveli is "To Live and Die in L.A." But how could they shoot the second video when he is "dead". Was the video really shot 4 months before his death, back in August of '96?

In the video "Hail Mary" released under the name Makaveli, there is a gravestone that says Makaveli. But the gravestone is cracked and there is a hole right in front of it, inferring that Makaveli rose from the dead.

A shooting involving Snoop Doggy Dogg occured close to the release of his album Doggystyle. The shooting made Snoop appear more "real" and showed his fans that he really was a gangsta. The shooting gave him respect because everyone that bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platnium. Snoop was signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records.

In December '96, Tupac's new album went platinum. In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight. What is the only way Tupac could completly escape the media spotlight ??? (Answer: if the public thought he was dead.)

Press wasn't going to be allowed at the funeral, but then the funeral was cancelled for unknown reasons.

Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went. Why did he remove it at a very public event like a Tyson fight?

In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly cremated the day after he "died"? And since when do they cremate someone the day after death in a murder case?

Tupac's alias is Makaveli. Though the spelling is different, Machiavelli was a 16th century italian philosopher who advocated the staging of one's death in order to evade one's enemies and gain power. In Machiavelli's book Discourses Upon the First Ten Books of Titus Livy, in Book 2 Chapter XIII he says "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to deceive". This is Machiavelli's main idea and is the connection between Tupac and the writings of Machiavelli.

Tupac studied Machiavelli in depth while in prision was a fan and had read his books several times. Perhaps Tupac is taking his advice. Machiaveli wrote two books before his death. Look at what the All Eyez on Me disks are called.. Machiavelli's books were called, "Book 1," and, "Book 2." The CD's of, "All Eyez On Me," are entitled the same

One of Machiavelli's books is, "Discourses Upon The First Ten Books Of Titus Livy," which it's claimed Tupac read in jail. In Book 2, Chapter XIII He says, "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to decieve..." This is very similar to verses in some of Tupac's songs.

Some say that Tupac modified the Machiavelli name because if you rearrange the letters, they spell, "Am Alive," or, "I Am Alive."

The title of the new album by Makaveli (Tupac) is The 7 Day Theory. He was shot on September 7th; and survived on the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and"died" the 13th. Hence the title The 7 Day Theory.

Tupac's album All Eyes on Me was released on Feb.13, 1996. Tupac "died" on Sept.13, 1996. It is quite a coincidence that the two dates are exactly 7 months apart.

Tupac officially died at 4:03 PM. 4+3 = 7 Also he "died" at an age of 25 years. 2+5 = 7. It seems as if seven is Tupac's number.

There is nothing in the new album that says TUPAC RIP 1971-1996. Wouldn't it make sense to include something like that in the first album after his "death"? The only thing mentioned is "EXIT TUPAC ENTER MAKAVELI".



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The executive producer of The 7 Day Theory , as listed in the CD booklet of the album, is Simon (who is a previously unknown producer in the rap music industry). In the bible, Simon was an apostle of Jesus. Simon was one of the first witnesses of the Resurrection listed by Saint Paul (I Cor. 15: 5). The Outlawz have confirmed Simon is a reference to Suge Knight who was with Tupac the night of the shooting.

In Richie Rich's album Seasoned Veteran, which was released on the same day as The 7 Day Theory, on the song "N*ggas Done Changed" which is a duet with Tupac, Tupac says the following lyrics: "I've been shot and murdered, can't tell you how it happened word for word / but best believe that n*ggas' gonna get what they deserve." This phrase implies that Tupac knows he will be dead when Richie Rich's album is released.

In Makaveli's (Tupac's) song "White Man's World" on album The 7 Day Theory, he says "We ain't never gonna walk off this planet unless ya'll choose to." Did he choose to walk off the planet by faking his death?

In Tupac's song "Ambitionz az a Ridah" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "Blast me but they didn't finish, didn't diminish my powers so now I'm back to be a muthaf*ckin' menace, they cowards thats why they tried to set me up, had b*tch *ss n*ggas on my team so indeed they wet me up, BUT I'M BACK REINCARNATED." This implies that Tupac is reincarnated as Makaveli.

Tupac "died" in Las Vegas which is a payoff city, meaning all sorts of folks have been known to be on the take. That means doctors, press, lawyers, etc.

The white Cadillac containing the assailants was never found... How could this be when Vegas is in the middle of a desert?

There's a small Black community on the North side of town.. This strip is only about 8 blocks long.. If the attackers were Black.. Where did they go? Where did they hide?

The white Cadillac containing the gunmen passes a entourage of Tupac's boys, many of them body guards... No one gives chase and there are no witnesses...There were no witnesses on the street... How come? Why not, especially right after a heavyweight fight?

The cover of Tupac's album Makaveli has him looking like Jesus Christ... Could he be planning a resurrection?

Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert. How come there was no helicopter chase? If some one were to rob a casino, the LVPD would've chased you down with some helicopters.. . How come this didn't happen with the Tupac shooting?

There were no ballistic tests in the murder case... At least we haven't heard about them....

Tupac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once.. He was 'grazed' by a bullet.. Why did Tupac get shot all those times and Suge not get hit?

Suge said he drove Tupac to the hospital and they had a coherent conversation? How bad was Tupac hit?

Tupac had completed 2 movies and 3 LP?s that have were to be released.. With so many people upset about Tupac's death, literally anything connected with him is bound to net a whole lot of cash...

There is a 72 million dollar life insurance policy on him which has yet to be cashed. No legal actions could be taken against him as long as it isn?t cashed.

The video 'I Ain't Mad At Ya' foretold his death ....

The memorial services that were open to the public were canceled in both Los Angeles and Atlanta...

In addition to number 19, Tupac said in his song "Life goes on" from his "All Eyez on Me" CD, that when he died he wanted "every rapper" to rap at his funeral, etc. Why didn't Death Row fulfill his death wish?

In a 1994 interview with Tupac, he said before he went to prison that if he was ever sent to prison when he came out he would be worse than before. He was. He also said when he came out it would be like he was reborn. Was he speaking literally? He already died and he was worse when he came out of jail, plus Tupac switched his rapping name from 2 Pac to Makaveli, that could be considered a rebirth, all that's left is a physical rebirth (A sighting) and so far he's already completed more than half of this prophecy.

Suge Knight and Tupac are the only two music industry people on that high a profile with enough balls to pull off a stunt like faking death...

People close to Death Row and relatives of other famous rappers have speculated to me and others about the shooting being staged.

Why wouldn?t a company as powerful and rich as Death Row Records not put up a reward to find the killers?

Other possible clues are contained in the new album. It is called ?The Don Killuminati: The 7 day theory? which is still a mystery in definition. Inside the cover, it reads ?Exit: 2pac, Enter: Makaveli? as if 2pac has died and Makaveli born.

The cover of Makaveli DK 7 Day Theory holds many hidden icons, and references Marketing Hype

The only witness who was going to step up and I.D. the shooter was Kadafi (Yafeu Fula) but he was shot a few months after Tupac.

In the first few seconds of the Makaveli song INTRO/BOMB FIRST, you can hear who is claimed to be Kadafi saying "Suge Shot Me"

Tupac always rapped and did videos on his death, and how his funeral would be. Why was he cremated?

In the song, " Life of An Outlaw," an Outlaw says, "All For the street fame on how to be managed, to plan **** six months in advane to what we plotted, approved to go on swole, and now I got it..."

In the song, "Made Niggas," on the, "Gang Related," and, "Supercop," soundtracks, Tupac says, "**** 'em all who can't understand my plot to get richer...Outlaw to the grave, a mutha****in' made nigga..."

In E-40's duet with Tupac called,"Million Dollar Spot," Tupac states, "Fans can't understand my ghetto slang, so I evade and plot and plan a life of better things..."

In the song, "Ain't Hard 2 Find," Tupac says, "I heard rumors that I died, murdered in cold blood, tramatized pictures of me in my final states, you know mama cried, but that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted..."

In Tupac's song, "No More Pain," he says, "A heart of a soldier with the brains to teach a whole nation..." Is he referring to Jesus or Machiavelli?

The video, "I Ain't Mad At Cha, " was released only days after Tupac's, "death." It depicts Tupac being gunned down much of the way he was really shot.

"I Ain't Mad At Cha," is also track number 13 on, "All Eyez On Me," and Tupac died on Friday the 13

In the, "I Ain't Mad At Cha," video, Tupac dies. In his next video, "Toss It Up," his name is Makaveli.

In the, "Hail Mary," video, there is a gravestone that says, "Makaveli." It is cracked and there's a hole in front of it; this inplies that Makaveli rose from the dead. Marketing Hype

In the,"Smile," video with Scarface, Tupac is crucified...Later he falls and stands up and it appears to be a double. Still, is this another image of resurection? Why make people so suspicious? Marketing Hype

"Ambitionz as a Ridah," Verse 1: " Now these money hungry bitches gettin' suspicious, started plott'n and planin' on schemes..."

"Ambitionz as a Ridah," Verse 3: "payoff tha block, evade tha cops, 'cause I know they comin' for me, I been hesitant to reappear been away for years now I'm back...my adversaries been reduced to tears...

"White Man's World," 3rd verse:"Time so tell me why, you changed choosing new direction, in a blink of an eye, my time away just made perfection... Did you think I'd die, not gonna cry ..."

"Life of an Outlaw", Verse 2:"Who should I call when I'm shot and bleedin, indeed the possibility has part a chase in cream, dope got me hatin' fiends. Scheme wit my team, just a chosen few."


"Blasphemy", Verse 2:"I'm contemplating plots, wondering which door to go, brotha getting shot, coming back resurrected, it's just that raw ****, nigga check it..."


Did Bone Thugs N Harmony play a role in helping Tupac fake his death? In the, "Thug Luv," song, right before Tupac starts rapping, Bizzy can be heard in the background saying, "He's alive, he's alive, he's alive..." Marketing Hype

Machiavelli's book, "the Art of War," is also the name of Bone's new album. Marketing Hype

In the movie, "Gridlock'd," when Tupac and Roth are in the diner and they glance up at the menu, all the L's are upside down 7's.

In the movie, "Gang Related," Tupac and Belushi wait in room 7, and Tupac's badge number is 115; 1+1+5=7.

The cross on Tupac's back says, "Exodus 16:31." , The verse itself seems to have little meaning, but read this verse, found right above it:, "So the people rested on the seventh day." All of Exodus 16 deals with the 7 Dayz.

The song in which Tupac says he's alive, "Hold Ya Head," on the Makaveli CD, before Tupac begins rapping, a voice says, "Can you see him?" Another voice replies, "I see him." Then Tupac softly says, "I'm alive..."


Why have Suge Knight and the rest of his entourage been so uncooperative with police in solving the murder?

Since his death, there have been numerous reports of Tupac sightings.

[url]http://www.tupacfans.com/alive/sighting.php[/url]

[KittyLynn]

[SIZE=1][COLOR=dodgerblue]My classmate James did a speech on him. And I frankly think he's dead but he wants everyone to think he's alive..But actually I think he could be alive. Everything is just so freaky. ^^;; Oh well.[/COLOR][/SIZE]

[ianthestampede]

Well i'm deeply impressed by the evidence you brought forth,Bravo bravo. but i still don't believe he is alive. It would be great if he was but...
Who knows maybe he's hiding with elvis, or Buddy holly?

[Guest Fly-T]

I dont know, but a lotta people have been saying he would return in some time in September this year....That picture of him being spotted looks fake

[Genkai]

Uh... Well, I've never really believed it.. The number stuff.. well, you can do that with anything.. Adding and multiplying and stuff with numbers to prove a point is an old trick to get people to believe you... and a lot of the background in the music stuff sounds suspiciously "paul is dead" - ish...

I dunno, he COULD be alive...

[Corey]

*humms inocently* Belongs in the Music Forum....

I really could care less about Tupak in general, but I've heard of far wierder things than surviving being shot be five bullets. If there is even the slightest possibility that he is alive, than more power to him. I'd be impressed if he was alive.

[BlueGender]

[size=1][color=blue]I have read up on this a few time's, it has intrested me there are just so many things that were mysterious about his death. There is supposedly a song where tupac says "Rest in peace to my n*gga BIG ha ha ha". The song was released after Tupacs death, and it was the last song where tupac spoke on the Notorious BIG but tupac continued to have songs refering to other members of Badboy. Many believe tupac wanted to make as much money as he could so he could start his own political party and lave the rap game he was quite the extremist his mother was a former black pather and he grew up around members of the black panter party his sales made a huge jump after he died making him alot more money. There are also reports of another passanger being seen in the back of the car the night of the shooting. I also believe on tupacs last album it said more from Tupac to come he's dead he created 3 albums before his death and they've done 7 albums( 3 unreleased material, 2 poetry, and I believe the others were greatest hits) how can anymore be coming from the guy, his last album was also under the name Tupac implying Tupac is back. We'll just have to wait til September to see if the guy is still alive.[/size][/color]

[Vegitto4]

I figure, he was shot, he died, stop worrying aboutit. let him stay dead if he's dead, if he's not, let him live. Who cares. The more attention on this the more annoying it all gets.

[Genkai]

Plus.. if he wanted people to think he's dead so he could make money.. Why would he make all of those hints?

[Guest Peekatchu]

2Pac not 2PAK is dead, he is a legend and there will not be another like him

[treton_noir]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by KnightOfTheRose [/i]
[B]I really could care less about Tupak in general, but I've heard of far wierder things than surviving being shot be five bullets.[/B][/QUOTE]

you mean like 50 Cent surviving being shot 9 times? lol


as much as i hate it, Pac is dead.

people cant seem to grasp that... kind of like those people that say Elvis is still alive. >_>

[Comfort Eagle]

2pac and Biggie are chillin underground somewhere in Nevada! It's al just a big conspiracy!

[(<AA>)]

HAHAHAHAHA!!! That picture sighting thing is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO Fake!!!! LMAO, it really made laugh, but anyway, if tupac is dead, then he either planned the hit on Biggie, or was psychic... well, anyway I wish Aaliyah hadn't died... Oops, sorry for wandering back there...

[L.A. Rod.]

I think tupac is dead. Much of that evidence which says he's alive also says that Suge Knight arranged the hit. I read up on much of this stuff too, and I don't think a controversial rapper like Tupac can fake his death.

R.I.P Tupac, Biggie, and Dave Thomas.

[XeEmO]

Hmmm I could have sworn that I posted here already...oh well. I don't think that he's still alive. A friend of mine brought this up not too long ago and it just looks to me like he died. I don't see how anyone like Tupac could fake his death unless he got some major plastic surgery. If he went outside just about everyone who hasn't been living in a cave all their life would know what he looks like and say something to him.

[abc kid]

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Moreover, I don't believe that he would set Biggie up. Afterall, both Tupac and Biggie were just neutral pawns in the so called "East Coast/West Coast" war, which equally led to both murders ( remains unsolved). Ironically, people celebrate them more for their music in death than in life. What a creul world it is! ^_^