Soulmates? Is there such a thing?

[Bishie]

Okay. A friend of mine has been asking me to post this thread for awhile *chuckles and points at Doukeshi03* nyaaah nyaaah doukie-chan!
Well-here it finally is people. I just wanted to see everyones view on it really. Everyone is of course allowed their own opinion, so please everyone-no flaming! share the love is what i say! ^__^

Here goes nothing...

I find it really amusing, all the stuff i read nowadays about soulmates, past-lives etc etc. So heres what i think. if your past lifetimes effect the one your living in now, that could so not be good. I mean, if you hurt someone in your past life, or fell in love with someone you shouldn't have. You hurt or get involved in a bad relationship in your current life, how unfair is that?!
I mean, you could make one small mistake in one life, and spend the next 90 lives paying for that *one* mess up O_o
So! here is where this rant merges with the whole "soulmate" deal ^_^
I read somewhere, that a soulmate is the other half of you, the other side of a coin as so to speak. They're with you from the dawn of time, until the end. But to *get* this person, you have to

A-want this person with all your being O_o
B-Deserve this person
C-Except this person in whatever form

and until that happens, you will always feel incomplete, like half of you is missing.

But not every life is the same as your past life, and things change and get majorly messed up to prevent you from meeting your "soulmate" you might get die early, or they might die early. You may find them and they end up hating you in that life time, despite the fact that person may despise you, im sure there's still some attraction there ^_^ you'd both be soulmates after-all.
So what if your soulmate in your current life your in happens to be the same gender or way younger/older..heck O_o it might even be an animal *twitches*
It kinda shows that fate has a twisted sense of humour doesnt it?
And then..what if you *do* find your soulmate, defy all the boundries to be with them, convice yourself that they are the *one* and you'd rebel against society to prove your love for them, distance yourself from everyone you hold dear that dissapproves. What if you *Do* do that..but they really dont want you. That would be a major kick in the teeth ne?

So does this mean we're destined to be lonley a good half of our life-time? And we very rarely feel complete?

It does kinda make sense, when you think of all the people of the world and their insercuritys/problems/preferences.

I personally *do* believe there's such thing as a "soulmate" a perfect person for someone. I also believe that when you meet them, you just *Know* It sometimes isnt the greatest of things to experience though im sure.

So what does everyone else think?

I really hope this made sense lol.

[Semjaza]

I had no idea that the idea of soulmates totally relied on the idea of reincarnation and past lives. News to me.

Anyway... Soulmates don't exist in my opinion. You click with someone or you don't. I think that your "perfect" person is mostly perfect for you due to a large amount of coincidence and trial and error really. I don't believe you suddenly meet someone and know you need to spend the rest of your life with them. If that were true, I doubt divorce rates would be so high.

I've yet to meet more than two girls in my life that I could honestly stand dating for an extended period of time. I'm definitely not bitter about that (especially since I was the one to end it each time), and I don't think that affects my opinion on the subject honestly. Perhaps it does limit my experience, as I'm sure some people who had something suddenly work out for them would swear the existance of true soul mates up and down. Who knows.

Either way, I don't believe in the idea of a soulmate at its core. That's not to say someone won't meet someone that's, in their eyes, perfect for them or that that person might even just fall into their lap unexpectedly... I just don't believe there is some sort of cosmic force leading up to your meeting eachother, nor do I believe there is some sort of fate involved. I might as well believe in the Muses.

I need to learn how to write less. Shorter than most, I suppose.

[amibasuki]

[FONT=arial]I don't believe in soulmates, and the belief that you'll be incomplete without this person all your life if you don't meet him/her. I do believe that people who knew each other in the Pre-existance will get a chance to meet during their lives and have a chance to do what they will concerning relationships though. something like destiny, I guess. so I guess they could be considered soulmates in the sense that they are destined to meet because they loved each other before they came to Earth. but that doesn't necessarily mean they were [i]made[/i] for each other. they could still find other perfectly nice people and be just as happy with them. that's my personal belief, anyway, as vague as I worded it. tried not to draw it out too much ^_^'.[/FONT]

[Lady Macaiodh]

[color=darkblue][size=1]I used to be very idealistic, believing in soulmates and love at first sight and all.

But nowadays, if I ever got that feeling again, I'd take off in the opposite direction and never speak to the person again, lol.

I don't believe in soulmates anymore. Think about it... there are 6 billion or so people on the planet, and there's supposed to only be that [i]one[/i] perfect person for each of us? That just does not make sense. The odds are that you'd never even find them.

I think there are many people out there that each of us has the potential to fall in love with and have wonderful lifetime relationships with.

In fact, I think the idea of a soulmate is a little dangerous. Are we supposed to believe that we have no control at all over it? That the universe or whatever decides who will make us happy and what we want in a person? Bah.[/color][/size]

[Doukeshi]

Okay...let's see. Now soulmates don't necessarily have to be love at first sight, I mean like Bish said they might hate you but there'd be an attraction. I suppose it's an amazingly romantic ideal, I mean who are you supposed to know if this person you're with is your soulmate?

[Bishie]

Totally off topic O_o

Wow...Doukie-chan actually submitted a short post O_o *is shocked* Nyah! *sticks out tongue and runs away*

[lea]

hmm....in my opinion, there are a few people one person can be compatable with....because, certain personalities match good with other personalities, and there are all different kinds out there...:D
dont you hate it when people only look on the outside, and not the inside, for good?

[Queen Asuka]

[color=hotpink][size=1]I would not want to be called Douki-chan. Everytime I read that I think about poop.

I have a friend whose parents fight like cats and dogs and truly seem to hate each other. Her mother has these dreams and so she went to be put under hyponosis and supposedly her parents knew each other in a past life. In a past life her father killed her mother by stabbing her to death. In this life, they are still together, but they do not get along and she seems paranoid that he will try it again in this life. They also believe that the father was the woman in the past life and that the mother was the man. Interesting, I thought...

As for soulmates, I don't believe you are destined to meet ONE person. It seems a little bit weird to me. But the relationship I'm in has way too many odd coincidences. But I'm very happy and I hope I've found the right person. If not...*Pretends to push Ryan over a cliff* :D[/color][/size]

[Bishie]

Off Topic...again O_o

fine lol *changes Doukie-chan to Nashi-chan* Im not even sure why i got attatched to that name *twitches* Nashi-chan sounds better lol

Okay, im not good with this whole posting thing and so this is a comment directed toward Queen Asuka ^__^

What you said was kinda scary *twitches* But actually makes sense

[DeathBug]

Soulmates...the idea that there's one personfor everyone on Earth...("He must be very busy, then". "I think it means there's a different person for everyone." "Oh." "Your way would just be stupid." "Can your soulmate be a monkey?")

Well, predestination implies a lack of free will, which I don't believe in. I believe, rather, that a person *becomes* a soulmate. I think you meet someone, and then realise when they're not around you feel incomplete.

Is that a perfect scenario? Nope. But it's not a perfect world.

[Break]

[size=1][color=CC0000]I totally believe in past-lives and reincarnation. Apparently, when I was very young, I used to draw swords, maces and other strange weapons. My mother asked my babysitter if I'd seen any films or shows on TV that had these in, and she said no. It's pretty strange that I can draw things like that without even seeing them, at the age of three.

Not only that, but now I'm good with every weapon I try out. And it feels comforting and familar to hold something remotely like a weapon. I wonder what the hell I was in a past-life. oO;[/size][/color]

[Queen Asuka]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Break [/i]
[B][size=1][color=CC0000]I wonder what the hell I was in a past-life. oO;[/size][/color] [/B][/QUOTE]

[color=hotpink][size=1]A Knight in Shining Armor...*has this glorious vision of him riding on horseback, saving her in a high up tower*

Okay ANYWAY! You were a murderer... O_o[/color][/size]

[Break]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Queen Asuka [/i]
[B][color=hotpink][size=1]Okay ANYWAY! You were a murderer... O_o[/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE]

[size=1][color=CC0000]Really? *would like to know how you came to that conclusion*[/size][/color]

[James]

[color=#335062]I don't think soulmates exist. But I do think that out of all the people in the world, there are probably maybe a few thousand that are [i]perfect[/i] for you. You know what I mean?

I don't think that there is only one individual in the entire world who is totally perfect for you. The pool of ideal mates is probably limited overall, but still includes a few thousand people.

So, I feel that most people will never meet their "perfect match". Divorce rates, as Semjaza pointed out, are evidence of that.

And I also feel that love in first sight is totally impossible. You can see someone and feel a connection, sure. You can even have a stronger reaction to a person on first meeting than you've had with anyone else. But love is something that develops with some time...getting to know a person's flaws and falling in love with those flaws, you know?

Bah, I can't really work out what I'm trying to say here. So I'll just quit now. ~_^[/color]

[Bishie]

Hmmm..you *become* a soulmate? you meet them, then when they leave you feel incomplete?

I like that...I like that alot...^_^

[Queen Asuka]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Break [/i]
[B][size=1][color=CC0000]Really? *would like to know how you came to that conclusion*[/size][/color] [/B][/QUOTE]

[color=hotpink][size=1]Women's intuition. I think you tried to kill me in a past life. :toothy:[/color][/size]

[Bishie]

*dies* this thread is about soulmates!! not murders! lol just kidding ^__^

[Lady Asphyxia]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Bishie [/i]
[B]But not every life is the same as your past life, and things change and get majorly messed up to prevent you from meeting your "soulmate". You might die early, or they might die early. You may find them and they end up hating you in that life time, despite the fact that person may despise you, I'm sure there's still some attraction there ^_^ You'd both be soulmates after-all.
[/B][/QUOTE]

[size=1]You haven't, by any chance, recently read Jude Deveraux's [u]Remembrance[/u], have you?

My belief on soul mates is that there are types of people you click with. They could be the exact opposite of you, or exactly the same, depending on who you are and what your personality is like. But there are people you don't click with, and that's fine.

Honestly, I believe this; nothing lasts forever. While it's nice to believe it does, it won't. And neither will soulmates. With a lot of time together, you'll discover things you dislike [i]intensely[/i] about the person -- but love is about accepting those things anyway.

I'm like the [i]idea[/i] of Soulmates, but I can't believe in the reality.[/size]

[Guest cloricus]

I would just repeat Asphyxia's post so just read it. ^_~
It?s a nice idea but I don't really believe it.

-eps-

[Bishie]

Uhh this is to Lady Asphyxia ^__^

Yeah! I have read it *cackles* thats why i put "I read somewhere" in my thread post thingie. I thought it was an interesting concept and so used it ^__^ *didnt claim right to anything* O_o..why am i always worried about be sued? lol

[Red]

[color=002E55]I don't really know about Soul mates. Like James said, there are probably a thousand perfect people out there out of everyone in the world. Still, I believe in how powerful love really is - and how people can believe that they are soul mates because of their love.[/color]

[quote]And I also feel that love in first sight is totally impossible. You can see someone and feel a connection, sure. You can even have a stronger reaction to a person on first meeting than you've had with anyone else. But love is something that develops with some time...getting to know a person's flaws and falling in love with those flaws, you know?[/quote]

[color=002E55]Ah, you hit the nail on the head there. ^_^[/color]

[Ravenstorture]

[color=darkgreen][font=gothic]I think the interesting point of debate isn't whether or not someone out there is 'for you' - but whether or not you will find them.

Allow me to refer to the german myth of the Doppelganger - a creature that is exactly like you in every way, shape and form. If you meet your doppelganger, come across it in the street or whatever, and it touches you, you die. So I've heard.

The myth, although a strange one, survived because of the possibility that such a thing existing without you ever knowing about it. There will always be a large percentage of people in the world at the same time as you, who you will never see, meet or know anything about.

This percentage is decreasing rapidly due to the increased ability of communications, but the point remains the same. Even if there was one, or a thousand people, out there just for you, or if you were a one in a pack of people just for someone else - you'd probably never know, because the chance of coming across that person is very, very slim.

This is where fate and or destiny steps in.

A classic example - my lord Harlequin and I attend the same school which is where we met and fell madly in love nearly straight away. But, prior to attending the school, we had different agendas. I was going to go to an all girls catholic school on the other side of town, and he was going to go to a private school more in his vicinity. At the last minute, he suddenly decided to enrol at Downlands instead, and so did I. The school had not appealed to me before, and I had no reason to go there - it was too expensive and too far away. But I went there anyway...
... and I am now very glad that I did.

My point is that perhaps there are people out there for everyone, but it's unlikely two will come in contact. If two are relatively close, however, coincidence and fate may twich occurances and push the couple together. It's a nice thought....[/font][/color]

[nezzyjean]

There must be such a thing as soulmates ^_^!! There is somebody out there for EVERYONE who is perfect for them! YOu just gotta work hard enuf to find them!!! and if you don't, then either. . .
1)you havn't looked hard enough
or 2)that person died b4 you found them.
That sounds reasonable doesnt it?

[Lady Asphyxia]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Bishie [/i]
[B]Uhh this is to Lady Asphyxia ^__^

Yeah! I have read it *cackles* thats why i put "I read somewhere" in my thread post thingie. I thought it was an interesting concept and so used it ^__^ *didnt claim right to anything* O_o..why am i always worried about be sued? lol [/B][/QUOTE]

[size=1]Heh. I was just making a comment. Don't worry about it.[/size]

[RPGchick]

i think whether or not your soulmate exists depends on your veiw of people. if you only look at people's bad qualities, you will never find someone you would consider your soulmate, but if you ignored bad qualities and actions and you only looked at the good things that the person does, then you will find someone who you might consider your soulmate. see, it is all the way you personally look at things.