Metallica: St. Anger

[LostProphet]

This is a pretty good CD. I bought it yesterday, and haven't been able to shut it off since. The 1st Track, Frantic, is a very driven song with Lars giving a yet again superb performance.

Anyone else heard it yet?

[Guest Fiasco]

"I'm so in angry with you."

Absolutely f*king terrible. Awful. Hearing Hetfield's voice gives me about as much pleasure as brushing my teeth with a piece of barbed wire.

I may have put it a bit harsh, but it sucks. Their style has totally changed, where is the guitar solo's anymore? Decent[borderline of sucking] Metallica is any CD before MASTER OF PUPPETS. That's their peak music. Not St. Anger, horrible CD.

[Semjaza]

I think it's pretty much agreed by most everyone, other than extreme Metallica fans that seem think they can never mess up, that the CD is really weak. I'm certainly not impressed with it. I can't even bring myself to finish it.

It's just really weird. You know that there is no way they forgot to play and write good songs, but at the same time why in the world would they be doing this on purpose? Some of it simply does not sound right musically.

I can understand the "I'm madly in anger with you" line, as I guess they're replacing "love" with "anger," but it still sounds incredibly stupid. I don't think they'll ever live that one line down heh. I've seen so many people harp on it already.

I really like the cover art though. Reminds me of something EMEK would do.

[Nomad]

[color=darkblue][size=1]I've only really heard the song St. Anger, and that was with the music video on MTV. I have to say, Metallica has lost it with the new stuff. The old stuff (i.e; Metallica a.k.a. The Black Album, Garage Inc., Master of Puppet, Ride the Lightning, etc.) is awsome. Their more recent music has vocals no were near the vocals on the old albums. St. Anger is a prime example. The music it the ****, but the vocals completely suck.

My opinion on Metallica's new music sucking is going to stand until I find some proof to change my mind. Otherwise, they shouldn't try anything new, they should try for a more old sound. I like the Metallica that you could blare in your room with the bass and the lyrics that just made you think, not the Metallica that you can blare and here lyrics like the other pop bands around (which, in my opinion sucks)(and their vocals have that feeling of being more of a 'I love you, won't you be my baby' instead of a 'Die! I don't care, I'm a wanderer (sp?), I don't need anyone but myself'.)

So, the bottom line is I most likely wouldn't like the St. Anger album, but I'll give it a shot, since they are one of the top metal bands on my list. But my opinion is just that an opinion. Whatever you like shouldn't be changed by what ppl say.

--Nomad[/size][/color]

[Jesus Chicken]

I would just like to ask what the hell they were thinking? I have only heard the single: ST.Anger, but it is absolute crud. They hve gone off on this new metal phase that is really uninventve and makes them sound like try-hards. If they weren't Metallica, and didn't have such a big following due to their past hits, this song would be the end of them... Terrible.

[Transtic Nerve]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Fiasco [/i]
[B]"I'm so in angry with you."

Absolutely f*king terrible. Awful. Hearing Hetfield's voice gives me about as much pleasure as brushing my teeth with a piece of barbed wire.

I may have put it a bit harsh, but it sucks. Their style has totally changed, where is the guitar solo's anymore? Decent[borderline of sucking] Metallica is any CD before MASTER OF PUPPETS. That's their peak music. Not St. Anger, horrible CD. [/B][/QUOTE]

I am a true Metallica fan and I have to agree with you. This album falls far short of all expectations I was even remotely expecting when I saw it sitting there on that Best Buy table next to the free poster. Needless to say I didn't buy it, mybest friend did. And I'm glad I didn't. It's bad. Really bad. I don't care how big a Metallica fan you are, you must be highly disappointed int his album. I thought after 5 or whatever years it's been, they could have come up with something better. Plus that new bassist of theirs has no place in the band. I expected better of Metallica and Bob Rock.

[Break]

[size=1][color=CC0000]I'm not a Metallica fan and speaking generally I'd say St. Anger is good song. Doesn't sound like a Metallica song, but it sounds awesome as a random song in my opinion (though the vocals are a bit crap, aren't they?).[/size][/color]

[Guest QuickSilver]

I just got the album today. I have not heard it all as of yet but so far its a pretty good album. St. Anger is a class song. Even though the album is not as great as the black album i think is good taht they are trying to find their roots.

[LostProphet]

Can I say something in my defense before people starting spamming my PM box with 'What the f*ck is your problem?'

THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE EVER LISTENED THROUGH

I agree, if I heard some early material, I'd probably burn St Anger with the rest of you....but I haven't, so it should change something...shouldn't it?

[Manic Webb]

I'm not a Metallica fan (don't ask me to name any of their songs), but when I first heard this song, my initial reaction was "Doesn't Metallica rock harder than this?" I wanted to know what actual Metallica fans thought, and apparently the answer to my question is "Yes."

[OlgaTheDwarf]

I listen to a little Metallica every once in a while because my friend is the biggest Metallica fan ever and he has gotten me to like them, but their St. Anger song, I must admit is crap. It seems to be their crappy shot at doing Nu Metal. As for the album in whole I cannot say because I have not heard it yet, but my friend (the biggest Metallica fan ever) is really enjoying it especially the first song.

[treton_noir]

St. Anger blows.



it has the worst production i've ever heard. my theory on the production ist this: bob rock(producer) gave each band member the bpm (beats per minute, or song speed) and let them record whatever they made up at that speed. he then put all the pieces together into a track. no mixing. no volume levels. no nothing.

i havent been this dissapointed with metallica since napster.

[Angelus]

I think it is great.

The songs are good, granted the sound is different. I even really like the way that they didnt do a lot of production on their new cd. Why you ask? Because it gives the album a more live feel. The album just screams imperfection and that is exactly how a live show is.

So yeah, I know St Anger is no black album, but if you were expecting St Anger to be musicaly like the black album then you must lead a very sheltered life.

Every other Fan I know is always pissed when thier "new" albums arnt "as good" as the black album was. I mean crap stop looking through your little box and see that it is good even though it isnt another black album.

[Kinetic]

I'm a huge Metallica fan but this CD is so disappointing. I downloaded a lot of songs from their album and deleted them almost instantly. It's kind of depressing to see them go down like this. They were a legend in my mind but now they're just some ordinary garage band trying to keep up with the rest.

[treton_noir]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Angelus [/i]
[B]So yeah, I know St Anger is no black album, but if you were expecting St Anger to be musicaly like the black album then you must lead a very sheltered life.

I mean crap stop looking through your little box and see that it is good even though it isnt another black album. [/B][/QUOTE]

i didnt really like the "black album", either. i enjoyed "master of puppets" and "ride the lightning" the best. if you think metallica is incapable of screwing up a record, then you're the one who leads a "sheltered life".


[quote][i]Originally posted by Kinetic[/i][B]They were a legend in my mind...[/b][/quote]

they're a legend in their own minds as well...

[Semjaza]

There's a difference between expecting a band to sound like a specific thing all the time, or to emulate an older CD. A lot of fans that cling on to bands due to popularity are like this. They don't want an evolution.

It's another thing entirely to expect a CD to actually be something special. I really don't think this is, in any sense of the word. It's decent, if that. There are bands that have just left Metallica in the dust, and that was years ago. They're simply just digging themselves a deeper hole at this point.

This just in! Golden Age of the Grotesque is better than St. Anger, so go buy it! :D

[Angelus]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by treton_noir [/i]
[B]i didnt really like the "black album", either. i enjoyed "master of puppets" and "ride the lightning" the best. if you think metallica is incapable of screwing up a record, then you're the one who leads a "sheltered life".
[/B][/QUOTE]

I actuly think that with each album they put out they get a little better and take their sound in a new a slightly different direction. I actuly dont like much of the old Metallica material.. So yeah, Me not living a "sheltered life".

[Nomad]

[font=arial][color=darkblue]I think that old Metallica fans (that were way into old albums as metioned throughout this thread. Metallica, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, and Load. This category includes me.) mostly hate this new song (and most likely the album) because of the way the music is played, and the vocals are being done. *still angry at the way vocals on St. Anger were done*

Then, there are the somewhat newer fans of Metallica (the ones that most enjoyed the song they did for MI 2 and the New Album. Spacing out on names of other ones.) that aren't used to the hard metal stuff they used to do. Metallica used to play and sing like they were a metal band. Now they sing like they're tryin to be something different, and the music has changed somehow.

I grew up with Metallica, right next to AC/DC, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Jimi Hendrix, Def Lepard (i'm sure I spelled that wrong), Pink Floyd, The Doobie Brothers, etc. I will most likely always be a true Metallica fan.[/color][/font]

[Fall]

I think it's great. St. Anger, the song, rocks. So does most of the other songs on the album.

If you ask me, Metallica isn't going to go back the way they "used to be", just because people don't like what the making now. They're new stuff is good, just as their old stuff. You don't see any groups around now making music like Metallica are, even now. They're still awesome. They're music is still great if you ask me, even if they're changing. Stop whinging.

[Yoda]

I love the new album. Obviously it has a different sound, and it may sound screwed up to some people, but I think this new album came more naturally to them than any of their albums since the Black Album.

Just listen to the way the songs sound... just natural. With Load and Reload it almost seemed as if they were forcing songs out just to try and keep up with the Black Album. You can almost feel with this album that the songs mean something to them. Take "Frantic" for instance, it wouldn't take a genuis to figure out that this is about James' struggle to overcome alcohol. It seems to me that this is the sort of thing they would always have written if Jason had had more of an input... kind of ironic again.

Also, St.Anger is certainly not a crappy Nu Metal CD, as anyone who's listened to it will know. Metallica could write better songs than Linkin Park and all their rip-off's in their sleep.

To summarise, I was pleasently surprised by the new album, reminds me of a non-squeky version of Kill 'em all...

[DarK DeatH]

...::listening to Master of Puppets album::
Oh, wait... St. Anger? Where the hell are the guitar solos? I don't see any... Damn, what a disapointment... Oh well...
Oh, but in general, I will say it's not that bad... But... They could've done waaay better...

[Heaven's Cloud]

[color=indigo]I think they are pulling a "Pearl Jam", (make a good album, make a fair album, make a bad album...repeat) their next album will hopefully make up for this one...[/color]

[Nomad]

[FONT=arial][COLOR=green][b]While I was sitting around on Sunday thinking of something to do, I remembered that I had some money to spend. So I went out to Target to find something to buy, mostly at CD's. Then I saw the St. Anger CD. That is when I thought about what I had said in the St. Anger thread. Then, I decided that I wouldn't know if I liked the new album or not, until I had gotten to listen to the whole thing.

So, as you might have already guessed, I purchased the CD. When I got home I opened it and popped it into my CD player. It's still there, heh. The rest of the CD is better than I thought it would be. Some of the songs aren't what I would listen to (just the way some part of the song that pushes me away from the song) and some are songs that you would normally hear blaring in my room from the street.

So in other words, I like the St. Anger CD. The CD itself is great, but if you were to break it down and give me one song at a time, I would say it sucks. That's why I decided to re-post in this thread to tell you that even though I don't really like St. Anger the song, I like the CD as a whole.

I might have just babbled above, but eh.


--Nomad[/b][/COLOR][/FONT]

[XeEmO]

Well I had to say something here because I just bought the CD. I've been listening to a lot of older Metallica recently. I was looking through my brother's CDs and decided to borrow "Master of Puppets". I was blown away. Then today when I bought St. Anger, I put it on while riding home from the record store with a friend. I needed to pop in another CD because I just couldn't stand it. So yeah, my friend and I both thought it was bad and we listened to his cd on the way home. I got it used though, so I don't feel as ripped off as I probably would if I had to pay full price.

[soundwave2x]

ya, st. anger is horrible. i wish metallica never came out with this cd so they could still keep their status as a bad *** band. i still love metallica, the old stuff of course, but still this cd is not even up to their level. not even close to their level. the vocals are horrid, the drums are nothing but double bass over and over, the guitar is not even close to kirk hammets ability, and the bass sounds like a bass. the lyrics are horrible too. who says im so angry with you? nobody that wants to keep a record deal or retire.