RicoTranzrig Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 [COLOR=darkblue]I wouldn't want to live forever, not in these conditions. Death doesn't really affect me anymore. I used to be afraid of it, but I could care less if all my hopes and dreams were stopped short. Of course I would like to fulfill them with whatever time I have left, it just wouldn't matter to me once I'm dead...a lot of things wouldn't matter.[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biida Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 It happens to all of us eventually. Why should we fear it? It's natural. No matter how much you try, you cannot evade death. It happens every day, all around us. Not trying to sound pessemistic, but death is going to happen eventually. I don't look forward to it, nor do I try to shrink away from it. What happens, happens. When I die, I'm dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyGirl Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Deedlit [/i] [B][color=009966]I guess it's the part where they have to leave you forever that makes it bad......[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] [color=deeppink]I agree; coping with death is one intense roller coaster ride. I find that it has really helped me lately to realize that while my brother may not be with me in a physical sense, in a way I can still pretend he is. It's easy for me to convince myself that he's just downstairs being quiet, and while it may seem like denial, I gain an awesome feeling of peace when I do this. Of course there are other times when I remember his smile or his laugh and it just brings me to tears, but I during those moments I just have to remember that my lifetime is so short compared to the overall scheme of the universe, and that I can be in a spiritual place with my brother, and other loved ones, in no time at all. Sometimes just making things up or pretending really, really helps, even though you know that what you're convincing yourself of isn't really the truth. But about death itself, I think that it's a necessary evil; making it neither good nor bad. The death of someone close to you can make you realize zillions of things that you didn't notice before, like how much you take people for granted...idiosyncrasies and all. It can be a much-needed wake-up call for any and all selfish behavior, too. The only thing I fear about death is losing another Erik. I already lost one Eric that I loved, so I can't stand the thought of losing my other Erik. I often wonder if I'm exempt from sudden deaths of the people I love because I just recently lost one of them. I also often hope that I am :)[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 Death isn't something I really think about, let alone worry about. I figure when I go, I go. I have no control over it, so why even concern myself? If I die tomorrow, so be it. If I die in seventy years, that's fine too. Either way, I think I've had a nice run. There's so many things to concern myself over when I'm actually [b]alive[/b]... screw what happens when I'm not. It's not even part of my thought process anymore. I've lost people close to me, such as my dad... But it doesn't really stop the world from spinning and most everyone just gets on with their lives -- for the better or for the worse. Death just [i]is[/i], and I don't have the patience or interest to question it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 [size=1] As for death, it is quite a good thing. Most people would say they would take eternal life over anything...and heaven and hell as such. But in our society today, it wouldn't work that way at all. We hold onto life as what it is...a momentary thing. Life's like a sentence, and our existence but a small pause, a comma in the outflow of all other words. A sentence has a subject, a verb(action), and objects which the subject affects. I'd say that says what life is very well. And the period of a sentence is obviously the end... I don't, like e.e. cummings, think death is a paranthesis. That is to say that death is an added thing, a thing that makes our life as a small comma longer. I don't think that...so I don't believe in God in some and most ways, which deletes heaven and hell out of the way I think. I agree with Semjaza. Death is, but more than that, it is something needed that is. If we were to live forever, as I said, life would be nothing like what it is today...and people would simply and eventually kill each other in some war. Just because, say, if you had eternal life doesn't mean you couldn't die from wounds. Or at least that's how I see it, I guess. Who knows. The thing is, I don't care if there's a God or if there's life after death or if there isn't. So I could easily believe in God if I find him...or if I actually find something logically and explicitly that shows God is. So either way I don't really care if there's a god, or what happens after death. Just knowing that death happens is mostly enough...although I'm curious, as all humans are, to know what does happen. And how death goes and comes, and other things. But I will never know, and that's fine by me as well. [center][b][u]commas of hair[/b][/u] pause your lips on the comma of hair ulcer a period there ulcer a period there on the eight dangles of hair lick your tongue and indent the tail this indent has entrails teeth-marked spiders that squirm never a scorpion never a worm a semicolon night crawler broken stigmata to my eyes i see a scorpion but a period cries it salivas and tears and ulcers a period there crawly spiders that pause and stare eight eyes and eight dangles of hair and their eyes wonder if you care smelling and wrapping your lips the slow pressure of resist and the pleasure of buzz eventually the tail breaks off leaving a sigh and a flush the comma to a period as all touch ending first then much the lice infest semicolon nightcrawlers of what broken chains that say love emoticons of what was bleed ovaries for blood the first time is the last kiss cessations are hard to resist and it is good and it is right to pause to stop on a comma of hair of love, of care and to ulcer a period there so many are eyes wide and shut and with sigh and with a hush so much to ulcer a period there to watch the scorpion turn into a spider and all it can do is stare swelling and wrapping your lips their eyes falling like hips it's the dirt we always forget but all you can do is stare watch and wait until the exoskeleton bares it is better to be a comma and pause but even better a period to end parenthesis are nice like freezing it all in desperate ice sad to know even when you fight that a comma is only a crust of dust a scorpion in a desert soon to be lost one day to lose the tail knowing the heart and knowing the fail knowing the period falling on the eight commas of hair spiders and spiders squirming in despair ulcering a period there [/center][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteblaze Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 [COLOR=blue]A lot of you have said that it's good or it's bad, that you're not afraid (most), that you are afraid (a couple), or that you don't care (again, most). My only attitude is that, when the time comes, it comes. And that's all. I'm really just neutral with everyone else's comments and thoughts and with the whole thing (what I said above). You know, there's this saying,[B][I]"People fear, what they do not understand."[/I][/B] In truth, I'm not afraid and I'm not wishing for it but,... I just wish someone could answer this question for me, [I]What happens to the mind when you die?[/I] Your consciousness, your thoughts and memories, everything, what happens to all of ti? So your body: fingers, toes, arms, legs, all of that pretty much just, withers away eventually but, what about your mind? If you understand, even a little, what the mind is exactly and everything it can do, then you're probably wondering this too. It's not something I think about all the time, just when the topic of death arises. [I]I hope I'm not scaring anyone with any of this.[/I][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PloKoonDS Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 Teh Ubber newb is here to speak again1!!!one!1 I believe in heaven and hell, and there not being a middle ground. There is no works to get into heaven, only Jesus Christ. I believe that everyone is going to die, just like everyone is going to feel pain some day. Pain is a teacher, a task master, an opressor. I have defeated it, and I will accept death when it claims me, I hope though, that maybe I will see some of you in Heaven. I believe I am going because I accepted Jesus Christ into my heart. He is my savior, and I believe in him. Death happens, period. No way to avoid it. There is no such thing as "immortality" on the human level, and There is no such thing as "an afterlife", because a person never really dies. The body is gone, sure, but a person still has there soul. The Soul is the thing that matters, not there body. A soul is immortal, the body is not. The Soul will live on forever. Like I said in my very first post, I am a horrible person, worse then most of you probably, and some times I am a hypocrite, which is the thing I guess you could say I "hate" most in life. But Any one can go to heaven if they believe in Jesus and the bible. I also have a hunch on what I am saying is going to cause some arguements, so bring 'em on! I love hardcore conversations. any who, those are my veiws, and I dont mean to bash any one with them. Plo Koon, a.k.a - Da Peaches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anjiru Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 Do you know what human beings think about when they?re in pain? God? No, they call out God?s name but deep inside their souls, they curse the god who gave them the capacity to feel pain. At the moment of pain, anyone can be a god to them. Good or evil, it matters not so as long as it stops the pain. -Jarbilong, The Eleventh Demon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarK DeatH Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 The only certain thing about life is death itself, so why fear it? When you die, you die... Nothing can be done or it can't be helped... That's just how it works... You can be walking to school, then a car hits you, you're dead... Or you can be at home, and a plane falls on your house, again, you're dead... You can be going to the market and some guy comes to rob you, then he shoots you... again, you're dead... It's the easiest thing to happen... And also, look at how many people die in one year... So yeah, no need to fear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PloKoonDS Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 Actually, there are two certainties about life. 1. Death 2. Choices. There is always a choice, no matter what. Any who, I dont know, I dont feel pain much. I have a high tolerance for it, extremly high. And no, I dont "curse the God" that gave me this pain, I welcome back. Pain is a teacher, a task master, a controller. That is why little kids learn not to touch the stove, and stuff like that. It hurts, so stop. Any who, I dont Curse God, I praise him for being what he is =) Plo Koon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarK DeatH Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 Pain can be quite good my friend... It can make you forget your anger... But no, choices are not necessarily certain... For example, if a child dies right when they're born, then they souldn't have made any choices yet... Just died... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samgee Gamwise Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 What about the choice to push back at the tap-tap of their father's constant and inquisitive poke at the bubble of the babies life before they're "born"? (I know this is out there but, yeah. Lets get technical!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxJoltxX Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 To put it simpley Death: Good. its natural. Causing Death: Bad. its unnatural. it causes more death (ie;War,revenge,ect.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDragon465 Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 I fear death a lot. It's such a mystery if you just really die and then just stay on the ground on till you disintegrate until there is nothing left of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Quite simply put, I try not to think about what lies after death. I just try to enjoy life while it lasts. It's true that we all wonder throughout our lives what awaits us in the afterlife--or if there even [i]is[/i] an afterlife. But, I don't want to drive myself crazy thinking about such things because there are no real answers. I do shudder at the thought of becoming old and dying, though. It seems that old people are looked down upon and viewed as unimportant. The society that many of us live in is driven on youthfulness and good looks. So, by becoming old, I feel as though I'm experiencing a passage into secondary citizenship. And I hate the thought of not knowing whether my next day will be my last. But, then I remember, you don't have to be old to die. I realize that [i]anyone[/i] could die at any moment--age doesn't matter. Yet, if we go through life pondering the complexities of the great beyond and let the unknown eat at us, are we ever living life to its fullest in the first place? As to answer the thread's question more clearly--I believe that there's [i]something[/i] on "the other side." I don't believe that it's just lights out. I won't bother thinking about it any further until the time comes. For some reason, I have a feeling that if I just enjoy life and do what I want to do, then I'll be satisfied with myself and content with the life I've lived. Dying won't be such a big deal at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyxe Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Me well I'm not afraid of death. I actually wouldn't care if I died. I believe in reincarnation... I'm not quite sure on the heaven and hell thing, but if they do exist... heh, I'm goin' to hell. :naughty: ... Hmmm I wonder if this quote is true, "Death is like dreaming in silence." Seems logical to me. Anyway, I ain't scared o' no death, uhuh uhuh. :toothy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juna Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 laf - I want to know who voted yes to death being bad. There is wrongful death - which yes, sometimes is sad, but shizz happens sometimes, it's part of life. There is natural death - which also I guess can be sad sometimes, but also, a part of life. Bad and sad though are two differant things. As there is life and birth, there is also life and death - two sides of a coin that cannot be changed. And honestly, I really wouldnt want to live in an overpopulated world where no one ever died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star I Am Not Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 I've had some good times (and bad times) in my life, and that's more than some people can say, so I guess I wouldn't be sorry if I dropped dead tomorrow. If it happens, well, tough luck, no one could have stopped it. If it doesn't happen, yay, I get to live another day. [quote]Death is before me today: Like the recovery of a sick man, Like going forth into a garden after sickness Death is before me today: Like the odor of myrrh, Like sitting under a sail in a good wind. Death is before me today: Like the course of a stream Like the return of a man from the war-galley to his house. Death is before me today: Like the home that a man longs to see, After years spent as a captive. ~The Sandman: Preludes and Nocturnes, by Neil Gaiman[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marron347 Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 I am not afraid of death, but i don't want to die until I'm ready. Like, if I died today I'd be really pissed because there is so much that I still need to accomplish. Plus, my friends still need me. But when you're ready for it, no. Death isn't bad. In fact, it's probably just like sleeping: it feels like it only lasts for the blink of an eye because you do wake up eventually to go to heaven. When you die, you're just waiting for Jesus to come. Death sucks though if it happens to one of your friends. It doesn't suck as much for them, but it sucks for you because you have to live in mourning for them for the rest of your life and that hurts pretty badly. It is also pretty crappy when someone takes the life of someone else before they are ready, or at any time at all really, because man does not have the authority to decide who lives or dies. Only God should be able to take life away because he is the one who gave it to us in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imp Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 Me? Believe in reincarnation? YES!!! DEFINITELY!!! I actually believe I'm an incarnation of someone that lived 5000 years ago... According to my beliefs, everyone has three spirits, and when you die, those spirits travel into someone else. Some of those spirits just wander... Anyways, when three spirits reunite in someone, he or she is said to be reborn from whoever had those three spirits before. That, I believe, is why history repeats itself. But as for the concept of death, I fear it more than almost anything else. I fear my death and death of others. I especially fear killing others. It hurts a lot when someone I like dies, especially if it's a family member or a best friend. I fear it even if I didn't see it happened (My grandfather died shortly before I was born and it still upsets me because I wanted so badly to meet him). I know that if I hurt others, it will come back to haunt me later on, so I avoid it unless it's absolutely necessary. (That is why I stopped putting curses on people a few months ago.) I was told by my God that part of my destiny is to kill someone, but I believe it's just to purify that someone and turn her from evil to good. I think that's a better choice. And, I fear death of myself, especially at an early age. I once wished that no major hazards (especially death) would come in my way of achieving my destiny. My destiny, I believe, is too important to avoid, and death cannot stop me. And, besides, my family and friends (and other people I know or know me) will probably be devastated when they hear I am dead, and I don't want to make people feel bad... However, whoever I was an incarnation of once wanted to die... I hope I won't! *prays* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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