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Alright, well... ...I have recently been watching Cartoon Network's Adult Swim, and found myself enchanted by what was Reign: The Conqueror. As for many people, I know that they hate it, but for me, besides the fact that they all need to wear some pants, I love the show. The actions fits in well with the history, and the story is great... ...and to think that I actually have to write an essay on Alexander The Great in a few days for my LIT class at College!!

I need some help dudes... ..who can tell me some things they know wbout Alexander The Great, because I still need to know about his General Parmnion, and that guy who was his gay lover. Strange...

Oh, who likes and dislikes the show? I would just like to know why? Opinions are opinions, right? To each his own...

THANKS!!
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I personally like the show, but then again I was also a fan of Aeon Flux bck in the day. I tend to like fast moving, fantasy based sci-fi's with fighting, beautiful scenery and imaginitive characters; but that's just me. ^_~

"Reign: The Conqueror was developed by some of the most creative and influential forces in anime today. The anime features character and concept designs by Peter Chung, (Creator of MTV's Aeon Flux); is produced by Rintaro (Astro Boy, Metropolis) and Masao Murayama (Trigun, Cardcaptor Sakura); and showcases animation by the famed Madhouse studio (Trigun, Vampire Hunter D)."
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I can't tell if this topic is about a TV show, or our pal Alex.

If it's the former, it doesn't belong in theis forum. If it's the latter, it's fine.

As for Alexander the Great, I don't know anything except that he conquered most of the known world at that time. As for the show...I can't say I remember hearing of it.

-Justin
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I was just replying to a post - didn't mean to ruffle any feathers - I'll make sure to search out that a topic hasn't been discussed before I post to something...and yes, I was discussing Reign, The Conquerer on CN. ^_^

ahhh...it was because it was originally in the Otaku Lounge, huh? Hahaha, smart am I. ~wink~

I'll be more aware though. ^_^
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Well, so sorry about that. As you might have seen, it was my first post... ...and I was only trying to start a conversation, so I believe that I was just starting one. But I will watch it next time, so again, thanks for letting me know, and so sorry...
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Well a couple of things I can say about Alexander are...

1. The idea of Alexander being gay is theory. There is nothing to actually support it anymore than there is to disprove it... So although some people love to talk about that idea, I would avoid it if you are on a intellectual level of honesty... note: that this does not exclude the debate involved in a research paper. (its up to you)

2. Did you knokw that all of the cities created by alexander were called alexandria?

Yup, infact the idea of alexandria being only one city is due to the fact that once alexanders riegn ended all those he had conquered went back to their old ways.

I guess going any further with this would be silly... but let me give you one huge peice of hipocritcal advice...

Dont listen to a single person on the boards when doing projects/papers for school.

Even when we (the members) have the best of intentions, we can mess things up.

Sorry.
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[color=crimson][font=times new roman]Yeah I dont mind telling ppl what I believe is true if they just wanna know...But if its actually for something important like a paper or something...I dont have that much confidence in what I say being the abolute truth :p

While I find alexander the historical figure interesting...Reign is pretty lame to me...Too much muddled dialouge and just couldnt hold my attention...Got tired of hearing about the plato-headron(sp?) every 5 secs...

That and im not a big fan of peter chung...Not really into that whole no one wearing barely any clothes and all looking kinda anorexic... :naughty: [/font][/color]
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Guest janx the jinx
I'm no expert, but I really like Reign. Peter Chung dazzled me with the unchecked mahem of Aeon Flux (pre/post MTV's w/diaolgue). While on Liquid TV (no dialogue), the story and flow where so cryptic that one needed to rewatch and hazzard guesses about this apathetic post-apocalyptic realm. Chung (character designer) brings a similiarly astral dissonence to Kingdom of Massadonia in Reign.
Like my ex, the plot is dam thick. As in Flux, time and dates are meaningless. The vague allegances and conspiracies require a pad an pen to keep track of. A loose understanding of the Mediterrainean, Fertile Crecent, and the Original Civilizations is mandatory. No MapZ..hehe.
If your only looking for well shaded explosions or big metal breastz....Reign isnt for you. Its nearly historically accurate of Alexander's path of conquest (nations/locations). Taking down the names of characters and places too much to ask of you? Well I'm tired of all these "boom boom jiggle in space" tales of predictability. Finally a show that that doesn't talk down to the viewer with 2 Ton plot points and laser straight shot-reverse-shot eye-line matches.
An unexpected intellectual excursion into our actual (lol well stylized) past. Entertainment with actual historal signifigance. I hope it's a new trend. Don't hate Reign just because its hard to follow. Ancient/Classical/Pre History is supposed to be a challenge...Anyways Peter Chung has a house and a car payment to make so watch.
[ignore the mispelling!! ;) ]. janx
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[color=red][size=1][font=arial]I wanted to like "Reign: The Conqueror". No, really, I did.

The idea of an anime about the exploits of Alexander the Great is a wonderful concept, the overall execution was, in my opinion, rather insulting.

The animation was [b]too[/b] detailed. Everyone looked like they had an extra 10 pairs of ribs, and no one wore pants except for Cleytus. The voice acting left a bit to be desired, especially since half the cast did voice for the top notch "Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust". I also hated the way that all the technology was advanced several hundred years, stealing away from what little realism there already was. The length was another downside for me; 13 episodes just isn't enough for a decent story.

In short, Reign had a lot of potential, but packing that much into so few episodes really took things down. It was not horrible; I'm sure there are worse anime out there. And I'll be sure to let you know when I see them ^_~

--Chris[/color][/size][/font]
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I agree that 13 episodes is really too short, ecspecially when dealing with a subject such as Alexander the Greath.

The show itself had its ups and downs. I loved it when I first saw it and couldn't stop watching it. (This saying 4 episodes) But the thing that bugged me was once I saw an episode I could never go back and watch it again, it was a first impressionable interest.

So the first time I saw everything I loved it, after that it was just boring. The futuristic aspect brought some interesting questions to mind, and I actually enjoyed that factor.

I liked the animation, of course I'm more for the GW style of animation but hey to him his own right?

I'd watch Reign through once, but I don't think I coudl do it again for the life of me. So yeah, it was good once. Twice....no. Thrice shoot me.


Off Topic: Is it just me or does Madonna's song [i]American Life[/i] sound just like Reign's opening theme in a couple of spots?
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  • 3 weeks later...
Well, I have been browsing through this forum and, to my baffled amusement, I've found only one person that actually (sorta) likes the anime put on by Cartoon Network in place of Trigun. Now, personally, I would prefer to have Bebop over Lupin, and I do enjoy Trigun immensely, but, my question is: why do so many hate Reign?

The art is a nice alternative to most anime seen on then network lately. The dubbing...is decent. The story is fresh (in my experience) so, why do so many despise this show?
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[color=red][font=times new roman]Alright...Ill resist the urge to flame :rolleyes:

I started watching Reign its first run and I was pretty open minded going in...I acutally enjoyed the first bunch of eps I saw but as the show went on the storyline just went down hill...All this nonsense about the platohedron(sp?) It came off like it wanted to sound deep and all but felt more annoying then anything else.

I really like history and alexander is an interesting historical figure...I feel they could have done him more justice...

Im also not a big peter chung fan...His character desgins are bizzare to say the least...Everyone looks anorexic and there arent a pair of pants to be found anywhere...[/font][/color]
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[img]http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/mad/1/mad66.gif[/img]

That will be the only flame you see in this post.

As for Reign, I don't like it because it's too short of a series (although considering what I've heard, it is actually good that it is so short, the pain ends sooner ~.^), it's not in one of my favorite genres per se (I'm a sci-fi/space/futuristic fan lol), the character design is really ugly (come on, get them some pants and put at least one bishounen who isn't gay in the series >_< ), and the set and art design really isn't the best.

I just don't like it.

I think my number one reason for not liking it is obvious though (look closely at my banner, username, avatar, and sig :luv: :crying: )
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[color=indigo]Okay, I merged this thread with the previous "Reign" thread...next time keep similar topics in the same thread please.

As for Reign, I never made it through the entire series but I did enjoy the few shows that I saw. I thought it was designed very well, and the story line was quite interesting...I like how they tied bith mythilogical stories, historical facts, and historical hypothesis together. Being an Aeon Flux fan, I enjoyed the animation. [/color]
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I started to watch Reign just to see what it was about...It lost my interest in the first 15 minutes of it. I didn't care for it at all...The plot was so boring*yawn* it shouldn't even be on. Bring back Bebopn and Trigun, now those were shows worth watching.:sleep: :smooch:
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I think the animation was well done and overall, looks very nice. Although some of it may not be exactly ideal to the viewer.

Anyways, I've only watched a few eps. so far and I'm liking what I'm seeing. Really, it's just a little odd to me but, I just like it. I'm the curious type so I just like to see what happens & I like stuff that's different, most of the time.
The story simply interests me, really.

BUT, I've got one thing to say: Alexander's mother is absolutely crazy!
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Boogiepop [/i]
[B]i would probally watch reign except for one thing


THE MAN THONGS
i dont swing that way [/B][/QUOTE]

[color=indigo]That is the dumbest reason I have ever heard for not watching a telvision show...dumbest ever

By the way, I know that you are new to the message boards, but please put some more effort into your posts.[/color]

[Quote][i]Originally posted by Devilmen [/i]
[b] I did not like rign:the conqueror after see it four time you
what try out your eyes! [/b][/quote]

[color=indigo]I have absolutly no idea what you intended to write, nor do I care. Next time, please put a little more thought and effort into your post

~HC, your friendly (yet bewildered at how many members can destroy a perfectly good topic) neighborhood mod[/color]
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[color=green]I have seen a few episodes, but I don't really enjoy watching it. I like the concept of making a cartoon epic about Alexander the Great, but not like this. In my opinion, it is too futuristic to represent AtG's lifetime and reign. Well, at least the title fits.[/color]
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Why did Adult Swim start re-showing Reign?! I mean its boring as hell. Sure there are some interesting plot aspects, but its mostly just a bunch of guys running around in their underpants.
GO PUT SOME PANTS ON!!!:mad:

I also don't like the animation design, I think it makes some of the guys look like women. They all have rosey pink lips.
Whats up with that?:therock:
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[color=green]That is just the way the animators make their cartoons. They say, "From the makers of Aeon-Flux." Have you ever seen Aeon-Flux? It is the exact same type of animation, guys still run around in revealing clothes and everyone has pink, feminine lips. That is just the animation style of the company. I loved watching Aeon-Flux so I thought this was going to be a good show. It turned out that I was wrong, the only part I absolutely hate about the show is the way the story goes nowhere. Other then that, I am fine with everything else.[/color]
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Yeah I used to watch Aeon Flux when they showed it on MTV. It was pretty cool, but still it didn't have much of a story. It was just short little bits, [spoiler]which mostly ended with Aeon getting killed.[/spoiler]
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