Zidargh Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 [size=1][color=darkblue] I apologise for the philosophical title there but it shows relevance to the topic. I will introduce the real life story where I first began to think about this. I was watching a performance for a Year 10 Dram exam (Grades I do not know), then after I asked what this highly intellectual student thought, he said the story was quite good but the characters were pretty ridiculous and terrible. Not only this, but the teenager does not study Drama at all. He rubbed it in their faces and laughed along with it. So I couldn't believe this. Basically, I support what he has going for him, and he is going to be incredibly successful in the Science area or something, but still, he had no right to state that. Anyway, have any of you experienced someone who is so full of themselves that they cannot back down? And therefore, how do you usually deal with them? For me, I ignore them. But everyone has their way I suppose.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureWolf Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Yeah, that's right... I know someone like this: my roommate (or my ex-roommate, since I'm commuting now). Haha, if, like my roommate, the person is really flawed or doesn't know what he's talking about, I just tolerate them. I mean, I act passively towards them, since debating will get you nowhere, and you already know the guy's ego is too inflated to listen to reason. Examples are always good. Record of Lodoss War: my God! My roommate called everything they had a blatant rip of something! "Oh, a sword, a knight? That's such a rip of the middle ages!" Yeah, I'm exaggerating, but when I told him that everything's a rip of something else if you look at it that way, he thought God's gift to man (in his eyes), Lord of the Rings, was completely original, until I reminded him of the Middle Ages. Man, he was so pissed that he made up this whole new philosophy (on the spot) that there are two types of rips: ones that pay respect to their roots, and ones that diss/ignore their roots. Ridiculous, right? My response? "Alright, I see." No more discussion about what is and isn't a rip: I just let him say whatever. If Drama isn't his field, and he isn't willing to be open-minded, you shouldn't really let his comments bother you. When you get to be my age, you know who is worth talking to, and what is worth talking about. "Pick your battles." And I'm not talking about fist-fighitng. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 I am curious to what the performance was. Was it an original thing or based on something that has been in existance for a while? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Vietnamese Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Damn, i hate reading long posts like that. Anyway, I'm Tony, 15 years old, and I'll be yur new big brother at this forum from now on. First of all, u can't just ignore someone for doing that. They have a right. What you should have done instead was tell him, "man it ain't that bad. yur laughing ain't u?". Besides, did u even like the damn play yurself? If you did, then I'd understand that it was sorta insulting to u, but what was the play about and was it good? That don't make sense at all, why would u just ignore someone for expressing their oppinions. You act like he told u yur ugly or somethin. Kids these days, goddamnit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nezzyjean Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 One of my friends is like that...she is convinced that she is better than everyone..and she belittlesme and our other friends constantly...I just ignore it...cuz i dont like starting fights...and if you even try to stand up to her she gets pissed off. I've known her since 3rd grade..so i'm pretty used to it by now...but it gets REALLY annoying if she says she better at something that she doesnt even know how to do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Vietnamese Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 keyblade, i understand how annoying that would be. In that case, it Would be a good idea to ignore. But we're talking about something that any kid nice or mean would say to a ridiculous play, not someone who is stubborn, rude and immature like yur little friend. Alright? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zidargh Posted June 23, 2003 Author Share Posted June 23, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Semjaza Azazel [/i] [B]I am curious to what the performance was. Was it an original thing or based on something that has been in existance for a while? [/B][/QUOTE] [size=1][color=darkblue] Well it was an original piece itself named ''Red Light''. Onto 'The Vietnamese's replies. For one, I am the same age as you so please dont embarrass yourself. However, in the same respect, yes I did enjoy the play and the people I know who performed it worked so hard they could've missed some of their own exams to sacrifice it. Therefore, I feel this boy whom is 15 is showing some plain disrespect.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 What the hell is a forum big brother? I really don't know anyone like that. If I happen to get involved with someone of that nature I simply get into as many debates as I can. I love to debate and have gotten quite good at it. Unless the topic is religion, I've found it's virtually impossible to debate with someone about their religion, I will debate anything I'm well informed about. Either that or ignore them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nezzyjean Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Vietnamese [/i] [B]keyblade, i understand how annoying that would be. In that case, it Would be a good idea to ignore. But we're talking about something that any kid nice or mean would say to a ridiculous play, not someone who is stubborn, rude and immature like yur little friend. Alright? [/B][/QUOTE] oops...I thought that zidargh was asking if we know any one like that rude guy who was making fun of of the play, and how we deal with them...sorry...my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genkai Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 I can't say this bothers me at all. You asked him for your opinion. I guess some people just like to be lied to... I mean.... Maybe he did go a bit overboard with the rubbing in their faces, but he DID have a right to say that, and YOU gave it to him.. So, in theory, you are indirectly responsible for whatever feelings were hurt.. and it wsn't that indirect, if I am not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimmFang Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 One of my friends is like that. It's either his way or no way you could go the hard way and do it right but no he does it the easy way and does it wrong. Conversation is fun with him to [b]me[/b]"I would love to put this intake on my car" [b]him[/b]"Well technically you can't because this and that blah blah blah" [b]me[/b]"I Know I said I would love to not that I was going to". You just have to give them the Look of Death which translates to shutup or get hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zidargh Posted June 23, 2003 Author Share Posted June 23, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by keyblade [/i] [B]oops...I thought that zidargh was asking if we know any one like that rude guy who was making fun of of the play, and how we deal with them...sorry...my bad. [/B][/QUOTE] [size=1][color=darkblue] Oh dont worry keyblade, you answered the topic fine. That is what I was asking. As for that The Vietnamese guy, I really do not understand what he is trying to get through to us. It is not your bad. So, does this person have any reason for the way he/she acts?[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nezzyjean Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Zidargh [/i] [B][size=1][color=darkblue] So, does this person have any reason for the way he/she acts?[/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE] I have no clue why she acts like this...but she's been like this for as long as I can remember...maybe it has something to do with how she used to be in the popular crowd. So...is that guy who dissed the play a friend of yours? Has he said anything further about the play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zidargh Posted June 23, 2003 Author Share Posted June 23, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by keyblade [/i] [B] So...is that guy who dissed the play a friend of yours? Has he said anything further about the play? [/B][/QUOTE] [size=1][color=darkblue] Well this boy isnt the one you'd call the [i]sociable[/i] type. However, he does try, he isn't one of those stereotypes who is cooped up in a book every second of the day, *There are exceptions however ~_^*. So no I wouldn't call him a friend of mine. I tend to speak with him but I feel intimidated by him, as yet I know I am intelligent, but nto up to his standards. Therefore, this may result in myself being touchy around him. On the other question, he hasn't said anything further about the play but it is his opinion and I respect that. However, he did not have to express his views to the extent of literally harming people mentally. Oh well.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Vietnamese Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 [quote]o.0. LOL i'm kidding about the big brother thing. It's just something us Japanese, viet, and chinese. It's considered disrespectful to not call a teen that's older than u either big sister or big brother. But's that's if you talk to us in our language. It probably don't matter if in english. I just say it for fun nice to know you think I look cool lol. I think yur cool too.[/quote] my apologies to keyblade for being rude. I know it's not yur fault, just read the topic more carefully next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasil Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Arrogance...yes. I know of one who refuses to admit he lied about something very serious. I've demonstrated more knowledge about what he thinks he knows and called him on it, yet he continues to ignore me, threaten me, curse at me, ban me, block me. I've even offered to sit down with him and discuss this entire thing, but he's very petty and self-absorbed and refuses to, at risk of damaging his precious ego. I critiqued his story in a very mature way and he over-reacted, too. [url]http://www.otakuboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23849[/url] [url]http://www.otakuboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17925[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarK DeatH Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 I know what you mean... I actually hate people like that... It's just like most people I know who say that the Final Fantasy movie was the worst movie they've ever seen... I mean, come on! Do any of them know how costy and hard it was to make? Or what they did at all? I don't think so... All they can say is that it is "dull" because there are no real people... It's like some guys I know, who play soccer, they actually think they are the best, and then they are so full of themselves, when they actually play worse than my grandma... I really hate people like that... I mean, if they're just joking sometimes it's funny to tag along, but when it's like that, I totally disagree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 [size=1]Err, yes. Kevin. I've had a run-in or two with him myself, I suppose many people here have. What really frustrates me is when people refue to admit they're wrong, even in the face of reason. Arrogance can be tolerable; willful ignorance is not.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardust Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 Yes.First hand. A friend of mine,or ex friend, I don't even know.....anyways,he thinks he's right about EVERYTHING,even after he's been PROVEN WRONG! For example,he's in my dance group,and there's an annual award.There's a big fancy ball and then they have this thing (sorta like prom queen/king) and he was telling me all week prior "I'm so gonna win!Me!I'm winning!They don't have a chance!" I got so sick of his bragging and crap,he wouldn't believe there was any chance he wouldn't win! Well,night came and he got RUNNER UP.You should've seen his face,he was like,"WHAT!?" you know,I couldn't stand it.Then he's like,in that arrogant tone,"Well,I'm pleased,but I would've liked to be the king" oh screw you. I'm sorry to ramble on,but I seriously believe he had no real competition,considering 4 guys ran, and 2 of them but for the question "WHY DO YOU WANT TO BE MR.DONAUSCHWABEN?" "I want to be Ms, Donauschwaben!" which is obviously why they lost. My god, some people,can't stand em..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Macaiodh Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 [color=darkblue][size=1]The guy described in the original post sounds a little socially awkward. Maybe seen as somewhat of a brain, or unapproachable. He probably shows off his intellect by acting arrogant sometimes, because that's the one thing he feels he can be proud of. I wouldn't take it personally. It's an ego boosting thing. And maybe the characters were just ridiculous, like he said, lol.[/size][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fall Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 There's a few kids at my school who think they're all that, and walk around like King ****, talking like they've just come out of jail for the first time in 50 years. You try and talk to them, and they tell you to **** off. Therefore, the only way to put up with it, or the only way [I]I[/I] put up with it, is act like a ****** back to them. Simple. Knocks them back after a while, and a few of them haven't talked to me for ages. It works. I'll never let some [i]arrogant[/i] kid get over the top of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinken Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 Myself, I know a kid like that. He's the kind of guy who thinks he can beat anybody up, and I have no problem with that. But when he goes about spouting it and picking fights just to 'prove' it, then I get ticked. But, on the flip side, every fight (verbal and physical) he's gotten in, he's lost. He started in on me, and I just disproved/picked apart everything he said (it was pretty stupid stuff he said, too). That's how I deal with arrogant people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patronus Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 [color=darkblue]-raises hand- I know! I know! *cough*The Vietnamese/Poison Tongue*cough* Actually, I know alot people like that. My school is practically filled with them.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasil Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Logan [/i] [B][color=darkblue]-raises hand- I know! I know! *cough*The Vietnamese/Poison Tongue*cough* Actually, I know alot people like that. My school is practically filled with them.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] Just how am I arrogant? If you're referring to an attack that I'm participating in, you are sorely ill-informed. I suggest you go read through the posts, see what I've said, see what my target has tried to say, see the evidence I've provided and see the defense my target has not provided. I'm simply calling him on something he lied about. No arrogance. Also, take a look at my other posts. Do you see any arrogance there? I didn't think so. The other two literary critiques I gave were of positive nature, because the works were genuinely entertaining. The posts not pertaining to writing are mostly kind-hearted, sans one on a Finding Nemo thread. But, you are entitled to your opinion and though I do not agree with what you have to say, I will fight for your right to say it. Cheers. Nice shot, too. I appreciate the jab. (That's not sarcasm. I really do appreciate it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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