Anime Why is Cell so arrogant?

[REVENGE2]

I just remember that when he was Imperfect Cell 2, he commented on how if he reached perfection he would be perfect in strength, speed, and mind. But he's arrogant to the extreme, which is a definate sign of weakness.

Is this a dubbing mistake or is there some other explenation?

[Shinmaru]

I don't know, maybe it's just a social commentary showing that nobody can be truly perfect. Or it could be something completely different.

[Demon-Kitty 9]

I don't know either but,he might have a weakness. could be a mistake but,only the people who dub it know.

[Guest Musahi]

Have you not noticed every villian in DBZ is arrogant?

[PiroMunkie]

[size=1]It is the typical persona of a villain to be arrogant, and the villains of the Dragon Ball series as a whole make good examples of this. You cannot be much of a villain if you do not think you are somehow better than everyone else. I mean, there was Furiza when he constantly degraded the Saiya-jin race to "monkeys". We do not even need to go into Vegeta. The androids (with the exception of #16, but he was more of a good guy) believed themselves to be superior because they "knew all about" Gokou and those people.

Arrogance is part of what makes a villain who he/she/it is.[/size]

[REVENGE2]

Yeah, but it's so BORING. You have have a villain without arrogance. You'd figure that sooner or later Toriyama would have thrown one in that wasn't arrogant.

Quellmon. Final boss of my megafic, [i]Neo Destined[/i]. he wasn't the least bit arrogant - he had seen his other seven comrades fall in battle, so he realised he had a slim chance.

And Vader. Classic villain, not a hint of arrogance on him. You don't need arrogance to make a villain. Cell would have much cooler, in my opinion, if he was more cold and calculating, and didn't take uneccisary risks, just finished the job quickly and efficiantly.

[Lord Prozen]

well if he did that then there would be no show duh! you know how they like to drag fights on.

[Nate]

Cell has the saiyan cells in him. So, he would have the saiyan arrogance. That's what i think.

Becides, as Perfect Cell said, if they did everything quick and finished, the world would be gone becasue of buu. His arrogance that he could beat anything and everything is made him take his time and give then time to prepare for the battle, and ultimately led to his downfall. If he did it quick, Trunks and goten would be gone, hence he's destroy the universe.

[REVENGE2]

Well, no. Buu has the slight advantage of being more-or-less unintelegent. While he was Super Buu 2 and 3, he had Trunks, who is very arrogant, Goten, who's somewhat careless, and Piccolo, whome we know from past experiances is very intelegent but also is a bit too sure of his power sometimes. So anything whcih Buu did that could be considered 'arrogant' was actually just one of those three.

As Super Buu 1, he was just same old Buu with a differant body. As Fat Buu, he was childish and playful, so the dancing around can be expected.

As Kid Buu, he was okay. he played around sometimes but mostly just wanted to kill people - remember, he destroyed any planet that had people with abnormally strong spirits (i.e., high power levels) to eliminate the threat.

Cell was much smarter then Buu, though. He should have been able to come up with this. If he was "Perfect in mind", then he would not be arrogant. He would be Vader with energy attacks instead of a Lightstaber. Or Lord Voldemon (Quote: "You have gotten in my way for the last time, Potter. AVADA KAEDAV-oomph!").

They could also still have a show. Trust me; I kill my characters swiftly all the time and I still have fics and novels. It's not like they had a whole bunch of people that they desperately needed, DBZ had too many characters. THe spare ones that one could have killed were: Tien, Choutzu, Yamcha, and Trunks. In fact, that would have been perfect. Trunks should have been killed. Brilliant!

Toriyama really isn't all he's cracked up to be if he's so attached to his characters that he can't even keep them dead

[Shinmaru]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Shinobi1827 [/i]
[B]Cell has the saiyan cells in him. So, he would have the saiyan arrogance. That's what i think. [/B][/QUOTE]

That's very interesting. I never thought of that before. It makes a lot of sense that Cell would inherit the traits of the people who he absorbed/was built from.

[Dragon Fou Lu]

Arrogance helps you stay confident. if cell thought that he was strong but not strong enough then he would be a little paranoid and not fight as well as he should be fighting.

ok i hope that made sense

[Narius]

Akira Toriyama himself did not put as much thought into the creation of his characters as you people do. Cell is arogant for the simple fact that people in general dislike arrogance, villians are made for people to dislike so they will watch until the villians are defeated. If they aren't disliked they put something else in the character traits to make you want to watch till the end anyways.

[DeathBug]

Why wouldn't Cell be arrogant? I mean, the Z crew and Freeza were the toughest creatures in the universe, and Cell had al of their parts and more.

Besides, if you look at it from his viewpoint, he had the abilities of all of his opponents, plus more. Perhaps if he were facing a previously unheard-of threat, like Buu, he would have been more cautious.

[REVENGE2]

Eh. It's not real enough for me, though.

I know, I know - it's an anime. but I generally like a degree of realism. Cell was poorly designed if he's supposed to be 'perfect', and that's not something someone should overlook.

Plus in a lot of early drawings of Perfect Cell, his nose lookes a bit big. Just like how SSj 2 Vegeta's early designs look silly - look at his hair!

Oh, you can have villains people like. Everyone loves Artemis Entreri or Unicron.

Unicron...mm....now that was a villain.

[Crisis Analogy]

Vegeta's the most arrogant Z Fighter in DBZ, aside from Piccolo. So of course Cell would attain such a strong trait within the natural instincts of Saiyan blood.

Kinda realize how ironic Frieza's insults were on the Saiyans? Always calling them "monkeys"? Heh, Frieza's anatomy wasn't that far off from a primates structure. His feet, and his tail were significant enough to categorize him as a "monkey". too.

Plus, Cell's death was kind of ironic. He was so "perfect", yet he was killed by an 11 year old kid. Haha, kinda funny actually.

[Narius]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by REVENGE2 [/i]
[B]Eh. It's not real enough for me, though.

I know, I know - it's an anime. but I generally like a degree of realism. Cell was poorly designed if he's supposed to be 'perfect', and that's not something someone should overlook.

Plus in a lot of early drawings of Perfect Cell, his nose lookes a bit big. Just like how SSj 2 Vegeta's early designs look silly - look at his hair!

Oh, you can have villains people like. Everyone loves Artemis Entreri or Unicron.

Unicron...mm....now that was a villain. [/B][/QUOTE]

Villians people end up liking, villians people were meant to like, not so much.

[REVENGE2]

Crisis Analogy:

Kinda'...but then you remember the power of that kid and the fact that he's a hybrid. So it's not so funny any more.

Freiza is actually more reptile-like then monkey-like. In fact, he's called "A reptile-like shapeshifter" at the DBZ homepage. I mean, look at his other three forms. Doesn't look monkeylike then.

Oh, yes, two more things:

1) Why does Brolly (Saiyin) look nothing like Brolly (Super-Saiyin)? Brolly (Saiyin) looks cool. Very cool. I wish I could have my hair like that and he actually looks seriously threatening, too. Brolly (Spuer-Saiyin) just looks silly. Too much muscle for me to ever take him seriously. As a general rule in anime, the most muscle an opponent has, the less deadly they actually are.
2) If Cell was created biologically by cross-cloning some cells of differant fighters then how is he an android?

[OtakuSennen]

Well, you'd probably be arrogant too if you were the strongest fighting force on Earth at the time.. Apart from Goku and the crew...

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If Cell was created biologically by cross-cloning some cells of differant fighters then how is he an android?
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..Hm.. I never thought of that.. Maybe Gero ran a computer program to test what Cell would look like if all of the fighters were put together, then he made an android based on that prediction.. But still that is sorta dumb.

[Shinmaru]

I believe that Cell is officially classified as a bio-mechanical android, but I'm not sure. Cell is an artificial life form made out of real, living cells and androids are basically artificial life forms.

[REVENGE2]

Yeah, but here's the thing: Cell was [i]grown[/i], while the Androids were [i]made[/i].

Cell has no mechanical parts. But, judging from what Sixteen's head looked like when smashed open, I think it's safe to assume that he's mechanoid.

I mean, I figured that the Androids work like T-800s from the [i]Terminator[/i] 'verse: Biological tissure over a mechanical endoskeleton.

But we've seen inside of Cell, and there isn't any mechanoid parts. He's simply living tissue over...more living tissue.

...

as long as I'm on the subject of Terminators, I'm angry at them for a minor, minor plot discrepancy.

Arnold plays a Terminator. He is, however, a T-800 (I know this based on the fact that it's said in the first movie, the second movie, and the video game based off the second movie). The mechanical skeletons are T-600s. The 'liquid metal' (Which is impossible, so I imagine that it's really nanites) is a more advanced T-1000. And in the most recent movie, there's the prototype T-X.

However, in T3, he calls himself a T-101.

This has me PISSED for two reasons: One, it goes against the movies, and two, Terminator series run in even-numbered, increasing by 200 each time. So, there is a T-200, a T-400, and a T-600. but there is no T-700, or T-100. And certainly not a T-101.

[Guest Ganondorf]

Eh, yeah I know Gohan's power level as a Super Saiyan 2 was somewhere in the 30ish millions. But knowing how "invincible" Cell was...a kid killed him. A pre-teen at that. Lmao. Kinda puts Cell's arrogance down the drain. "Yes, so invincible, but now I'm at the mercy of an 11 year old kid of whom I pissed off."

Makes Cell look like a paper tiger..


Hmm, yeah Frieza does take on characteristics of reptiles, hence his race's name, "Changlings". Why they're called that, is even beyond me....stupid race names. But it's just kinda weird, how his feet atleast, contributed to his oddness, and he wanted to insult the Saiyans for being "monkeys", when his feet would be more recognizable as a primates, before a Saiyan's would...(a non evolved ape Saiyan that is..)

[REVENGE2]

I always thought they were called Icejin. A friend said they were the Glacians. I think I may have coined 'Icejin' myself but I'm probably wrong.

Changelings actually makes sense for a race name: They have five forms that we know of (see bellow), and an annoying tendancy to come back with machine parts.

Icejin forms:

Midget Form
Demon Form
"Aliens" Rip-off Form
Mad Monkey Form
100% Power (AKA Football) Form

Although, take a look at the feet of, say, an iguana some time. Freiza's feet look like that.

[Crisis Analogy]

Kind of odd though, we never did see any of Cooler's other forms, besides his last two. I wonder if he examplified any similarities with Frieza's forms. Because, Frieza's last form, was rather "small", compared with the previous two he had taken on. So, I'm guessing that Cooler's forms are "slightly" larger than forms Frieza would assume. So Cooler might not have an actual "midget" appearance in his "midget" form.

Hah, I wish it was almost Icejin. Changeling has absolutely no creativity. Whats to expect, all of the Saiyans names are from the vegetable food group. All we need now is for King Cold to come back as a metallic horror. Or maybe Akira Toriyama took a hint with his other two metallic Changeling failures?

Yeah, I've seen an iguana, but I noticed, Frieza actually utilizes his "feet" quite often to "hoist" his opponent or rather for other tasks, of which reptiles don't accommidate. Only to really grip a surface out of instinct of slippage or falling. But they still can't really retract and actually "grip" something with their "claws". Or atleast, not to the extent that Frieza can. While apes exempt a more profound usage of foot athletic and extra and abnormal "gripping" capabilities. It just seemed more likely.

[Dragonstar]

:mad: No! Never kill Trunks!! AHEM! Um, actualy Revenge, he did die..? And he had to come back to go stop the androids in his own time.
And an arrogant vllain wouldn't see being arrogant as a weakness, or they don't know they are arrogant, it's part of being arogant. Maybe it's kind of a moral, like a fable or something..? And it also makes us really hate the bad guys, which is kinda the whole idea... Meh.

I've heard Icejin used a lot, but only on fanfiction sites, and I always thought he looked like a monkey too, um... maybe he's sme kinda ape/lizard cross-breed or something... :D

[REVENGE2]

No, his species is one of would-be conquerors. And successful conquerors. And they naturally evolved, I think.

Actually in a fic I was working on, I made them a race of explorers. They had sailed across thier entire world before they had discovered how to write, they had invented trains before inventing guns, reached thier 1st moon before they had computers (learned how to master KI energy), so forth and so on. I had great fun comming up with thier language, too. I based it somewhat off of Aztec and Mayan, with a little of my own stuff thrown in.

"Ga'bak, an' go-sai no'ka no'kai 'ijh algat kan'd"
[Gah-bahk/ahn/go-sie/no-kah/no-kie/ijh/al-gaht/kahnd]
"I see, you would rather die then?"

Apostraphes represent a pronounced pause between words.