Anime Yaoi or Straight? What's the deal?

[Fruggie89]

[QUOTE=Lunox][size=1] I would be honored if someone made a gay couple outta my anime. Because guess what....? MY MAIN CHARACTER IS GAY!

O_o. Right....well, anyways. How can you say that you hate yaoi/yuri because the pairings aren't canon, when you've probably wanted to see a non-cannon het couple? Because gay-ness isn't natural and it should be banned? What the hell! Let's gather all the shounen-ai/yaoi and shoujo-ai/yuri fans and all the creators of anime with gay people in them and all those evil fanfiction writers and throw them in the dump! Whattaya say?!

Do you know why shounen-ai/yaoi fans get angry and diss people who say yaoi/shounen-ai suck and should be banned? Because the people who are against this theme are the first to provoke the anger. I assure you, 99.9% of the time, it's the people who don't like gay writings or pairings that start the argument depsite the usual "IF YOU DON'T LIKE YAOI, STAY OUT. DO NOT ENTER THIS WESITE/READ THIS FIC." Do you see gay people going around calling striaght couples evil? No.

So if you don't like it, ignore. You're not going to suddenly change anyone's opinions. Heck, you'll never change our opinions. So if you don't like it, don't read it, don't look at it, don't enter the websites that say it is absolutely filled with yaoi fun just to flame everyone. I have no problem with anti-yaoi websites. Drumroll please! Because I choose to ignore it. As for this post, I know I'm being hypocritical, but I had to get it out.[/size][/QUOTE]


I so agree with you I mean ya what you said is true because Im a big big yaoi fan and people get offended with the sigs that I have because it their opinion because they dont like it and it pisses me off! I think people should just let it because you cant change other peoples opinion and heck cant change their thoughts! and I love gravitation too I think its cute!

[school-girl]

I really enjoy watching shounen-ai/yaoi, but i really don't like it when sites say "Warning, yaoi (boy-boy relationships)". Not all yaoi is sexual and hentai run, I think that hentai is disguisting, but i love yaoi because the love between the characters is always sweet and heart-felt. It's also a relief to get away from all of the big-boobed anime girls...not that big-penised anime boys is any better :animeswea

[Fruggie89]

lol yea true true!
so you love yaoi too? :D

[school-girl]

[QUOTE=Fruggie89]lol yea true true!
so you love yaoi too? :D[/QUOTE]
note my siggie!?
Of course I love it!!! :animesmil
By the way...nice siggie :cool:

[Fruggie89]

[QUOTE=school-girl]note my siggie!?
Of course I love it!!! :animesmil
By the way...nice siggie :cool:[/QUOTE]
lol thanks!!!!!
I love Ed and Envy yaoi!!!!! :catgirl:

[school-girl]

Envy yaoi? Why?

[EVA Unit 100]

[quote name='Fruggie89']I love Ed and Envy yaoi!!!!! :catgirl:[/quote]

GLOTTONY ADN HUHGESEZ GOHST FO EVAH!!11!1!11!1!

Seriously, I hate it how yaoi fangirls always seem to make annoying pairs out of characters that have showed absolutely no interest in each other! I mean, finding subtle-yet-substantial clues can be kind of fun, but just making pairings for the sake of pairings is just dumb. Honestly, some of you people are so crazy make the "INU-YAHSSA IZ MEIN!11111111!!1!" people at AS.com sound like Jeff Harris (and DON'T tell me that you're geeky enough to post on an online animation message board and haven't heard of Jeff Harris, and ESPECIALLY DON'T say that you are above the crazy AS.com people simply because you talk about shows not on TV instead of shows on TV, WHICH IS A COMPLETE AND UTTER LIE!). Honestly, I once saw someone selling Azumanga Daioh yaoi! And honestly, who in the deepest depths of Hell would write about Mr. Kimura ****ing The Father!?!?! And even if the couple you are writing about has been hinted at/established, nearly all fanfiction is stupid drivel. Some of it is readable, and some of it is actually downright cool (the only one that comes to mind immediately for me (other than my own works, of course;)) is Bleedman's PPG/Dexter/Samurai Jack manga crossover), but so much of it is poorly written drivel. AND THIS INCLUDES YAOI FANFICTION! You can run from the truth, but you can't deny it.

As for actual shonen-ai/yaoi itself, you cannot say that "all yaoi has great artwork and loveable characters", because guess what: NO GENRE HAS GREAT ARTWORK AND LIKEABLE CHARACTERS IN EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF IT! Star Wars (the universal example for most comparisons I make in terms of this type of thing) rocks. Star Wars is sci-fi. The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl in 3D is also sci-fi. Does this mean The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl in 3D rocks? NO WAY IN HELL!!! You can't say that all yaoi is great because 90% of every group of things, regardless of how great the remaining 10% percent is, sucks. And this includes yaoi. In fact, nearly all yaoi anime I can think of look downright cheap! And most yaoi nearly abandons plot entirely. I can go for something with a lousy plot if I can be entertained by the characters and the style (Samurai Champloo comes to mind in this regard), but unfortunately most yaoi lacks style, and angst and sex do not make me care for a character much more than him standing still and silent for 10 volumes would. I am not being homophobic here; I know a few gay people who are really cool, and I'm not entirely sure on my sexuality. I'm even writing a shonen-ai anime... WHICH DOESN'T SUCK! And unfortunately, quite a lot of yaoi does.

[Fruggie89]

ok Im proud of you but leave me and my imagination alone....sheesh :rolleyes:

[Godelsensei]

I find it bizarre that any one would attack a genre of [b]pornography[/b] because there is something wrong with the [b]plot.[/b] That's like complaining the "articles" in Playboy aren't revolutionary enough.
When it comes to slashy couples, the entire point is to force characters upon each other for no reason other than, "Wouldn't it be hot if..."

That's why series like Gravitation, completely bereft of plot after the fifth volume, are popular: because it has boys kissing boys. (Even though Gravitation is abrasively softcore...)

[Guest Tokyo Mikey]

[QUOTE=EVA Unit 100]GLOTTONY ADN HUHGESEZ GOHST FO EVAH!!11!1!11!1!

Seriously, I hate it how yaoi fangirls always seem to make annoying pairs out of characters that have showed absolutely no interest in each other! I mean, finding subtle-yet-substantial clues can be kind of fun, but just making pairings for the sake of pairings is just dumb. Honestly, some of you people are so crazy make the "INU-YAHSSA IZ MEIN!11111111!!1!" people at AS.com sound like Jeff Harris (and DON'T tell me that you're geeky enough to post on an online animation message board and haven't heard of Jeff Harris, and ESPECIALLY DON'T say that you are above the crazy AS.com people simply because you talk about shows not on TV instead of shows on TV, WHICH IS A COMPLETE AND UTTER LIE!). Honestly, I once saw someone selling Azumanga Daioh yaoi! And honestly, who in the deepest depths of Hell would write about Mr. Kimura ****ing The Father!?!?! And even if the couple you are writing about has been hinted at/established, nearly all fanfiction is stupid drivel. Some of it is readable, and some of it is actually downright cool (the only one that comes to mind immediately for me (other than my own works, of course;)) is Bleedman's PPG/Dexter/Samurai Jack manga crossover), but so much of it is poorly written drivel. AND THIS INCLUDES YAOI FANFICTION! You can run from the truth, but you can't deny it.

As for actual shonen-ai/yaoi itself, you cannot say that "all yaoi has great artwork and loveable characters", because guess what: NO GENRE HAS GREAT ARTWORK AND LIKEABLE CHARACTERS IN EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF IT! Star Wars (the universal example for most comparisons I make in terms of this type of thing) rocks. Star Wars is sci-fi. The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl in 3D is also sci-fi. Does this mean The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl in 3D rocks? NO WAY IN HELL!!! You can't say that all yaoi is great because 90% of every group of things, regardless of how great the remaining 10% percent is, sucks. And this includes yaoi. In fact, nearly all yaoi anime I can think of look downright cheap! And most yaoi nearly abandons plot entirely. I can go for something with a lousy plot if I can be entertained by the characters and the style (Samurai Champloo comes to mind in this regard), but unfortunately most yaoi lacks style, and angst and sex do not make me care for a character much more than him standing still and silent for 10 volumes would. I am not being homophobic here; I know a few gay people who are really cool, and I'm not entirely sure on my sexuality. I'm even writing a shonen-ai anime... WHICH DOESN'T SUCK! And unfortunately, quite a lot of yaoi does.[/QUOTE] Ok, I agree with you for the most part, but your analogy of Sci-fi is invalid because thats your opinion. Some people may have though Star Wars sucked and The Adventures of Shark Boy and Lava Girl in 3D rocked. Or some may have thought both rocked or both sucked. You can't make a judging based on your opinion (Though its basically right and, I love Star Wars and TAoSBaLGN3D sucked)

[Guest xosweetpunkox]

i would like so see yaoi hehe i like yaoi or real people kissing like 2 guys kissing thats pretty cute ok well im not gay just to let ya know i like guys.