Gay Marraige?

[James]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Altron Gundam [/i]
[B]Having a history of being enslaved and THEN being racial outcasts as bad as it was in the '60's and '80's is a whole lot worse than what gays have experienced through the 90's. [/B][/QUOTE]

[color=#707875]What about the gays who are slaughtered in Africa? Or the gays who are mutilated in the Middle East?

Do [i]not[/i] even go there with your argument.[/color]

[eleanor]

[size=1] Lol, are you saying gays haven't gone through any wrong treatment? Sure, the gay people living in modern times aren't probably killed on sight in America, but the verbal and sometimes physical abuse that has been inflicted upon them is also something very bad. Being and outcast and constantly being made fun of isn't exactly good, either.

And excuse me, but I think homosexuals are subjected to racial torment. By Webster's terms:

2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

and discrimination certainly can count for gays. The African-american people who were protesting were fighting for their beleifs, and their beliefs were that "If whites can get a good education, then so should we. If whites can get better facilities so should we."

If hets can get the freedom to marry, adopt a child, write certain things in their will, I say gays should too. [/size]

[Guest Altron Gundam]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i]
[B][color=#707875]What about the gays who are slaughtered in Africa? Or the gays who are mutilated in the Middle East?

Do [i]not[/i] even go there with your argument.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE]

I'm not even saying they aren't going through any wrong treatment maladjusted.

Oh yeah James, gays have been treated like the rubbish of the world for two centuries and were treated like objects in a slave trade throughout the 1600's-1800's. --;


And with that, I'm not condoning gay bashing at all. I'm just saying these are two different issues from two different times.

[eleanor]

[size=1] Note: As in wrong treatment I was referring to your use of blacks going through "racial outcast".

Two different issues at two different times? I think their pretty similiar. Blacks couldn't get fair treatment. They couldn't get the treatment that whites recieved. Gays aren't getting the fair treatment striaght people recieve. Time difference doesn't really matter.[/size]

[James]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Altron Gundam [/i]
[B]I'm not even saying they aren't going through any wrong treatment maladjusted.

Oh yeah James, gays have been treated like the rubbish of the world for two centuries and were treated like objects in a slave trade throughout the 1600's-1800's. --;


And with that, I'm not condoning gay bashing at all. I'm just saying these are two different issues from two different times. [/B][/QUOTE]

[color=#707875]Yes, they have been treated like the rubbish of the world for two centuries. Even more than that. To make an ignorant comment like that only [b]proves[/b] that you know very little about opression of gays.

In addition, gays are facing similar civil rights issues to blacks during the 1960's. It's a very important comparison, because both groups are minorities. Both groups are born into their relative minority. Yet one has greater civil rights than the other.

The point is that, regardless of whether you want to compare minorities to each other, it doesn't excuse inequal rights under the law. Nothing excuses that. To even begin justifying it is only prejudiced.

You might not condone gay bashing, but you're doing a good job of ignoring history and dismissing equal rights for gays as being unimportant.[/color]

[TheShinje]

[size=1] I am all for equal rights and Gay Marriage, as i have said before, not as good as James, I might admit ^_^

I am an outgoing Christian, heck, I am an OUT Christian! who believes in equal rights for everybody, regardless on my beliefs. At the dnd of the day, everyobody should just be able to live their lives the way they want to. They shouldn't have their orientation shoved down their throats like a bad medicine, like arsenic :p

It's God's decision at the end of days, I might also add that If I'm going to hell for being bisexual, it contradicts the whole forgiveness under grace doesn't it? [/size]

[Ravenstorture]

[color=darkgreen][font=gothic]Homosexuality has been around since the beginning of time (oh look, a camp amoeba!) and not just in humans, either. It's becoming an issue these days because people are starting to realise you might just get away with feeling for your own sex. Now people know that feeling that way isn't necessarily wrong, and [i]that's[/i] when they take to the streets...

Gay people march in gay people marches all the time. And good on them. I don't think it is as effective, however, because people expect a minority to support themselves. What I want to see is straight people marching for gay rights, white people marching for black rights, and people who can hardly speak their first language to hear about the Preservation Of Dead Languages Society, and say, "Hell yeah! I'm up for some of that!" And march down the street, yelling stuff out as they learn about it.

I'm not gay, I'm white, and I live in a first world country, but my mother and I have been marching in just about anything that's gone down the street lately. And I have had people who don't go into my catagory stick up for what I believe in, too. It's a wonderful feeling.

In this thread we've had people from all walks of life supporting homosexuality, and homosexual marriages in or out of the church, whether or not they are christian, catholic or zoroastrian. Gives me a warm glow to think that people who may feel sick at the thought of same sex marriages still support it, because they value the variety of life in the world.

In fact, I was reading the college record book today and stumbled across something rather intelligent - forming gentle relationships with others shows your love of god in others. That doesn't apply to me, but it really helps in an issue like this.

I've just realised that this post really doesn't say that much at all... Oh well. It's a few lines long, it's not spam.[/font][/color]