Domon Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 Okay, this thread is about the differences between the UC or Universal Century timeline and the Alternate Universe timeline. Like Gundam X, G-Gundam, Gundam Wing, Turn A Gundam, and Gundam SEED. Okay to clarify some of the differences. The Universal Century timeline starts us off in the year UC 0079 when the Duchy of Zeon has declared war upon the Earth Federation. So its the opposite of Gundam Wing. Also, in the UC timeline colonies [i]have[/i] been dropped onto Earth; right near the begining of the One Year War the Duchy of Zeon took a heavily populated colony and aimed it for the Federation's main base in South America, unfortunately it missed and hit Sydney Australia turning the city into a gulf and killing millions. Also later on in the year UC 0083 a man by the name of Anaval Gato successfully dropped another colony onto Earth. Except he hit the major agricultural area of Earth's food supply therefore inflicting some major damage. Another difference is the term "Newtype". A Newtype is a person with fast reaction time and some have even been able to communicate telepathically or to see the future. This was displayed with young Amuro Ray who evolved later into one. He is the pilot of the RX-78-2 gundam and while at first he and the gundam seem invincible Amuro's Newtype abilities become too great and the Gundam reacts very sluggishly to his reaction time so then the crew of the [i]White Base[/i] put on a new thing called "Magnetic Coating." This causes less friction on the joints etc. Therefore allowing the gundam to manuver faster, this is later used on some other gundam models. As known on Gundam Wing, the gundams are the ultimate weapon and the metal they are made from is indestructable. Now, for the UC timeline the gundams are made of an alloy that is somewhat indestructable, but after wear a long battle the gundam needs to be repaired. Also the weaponry is very different. Buster Rifles are the big guns on Gundam Wing and some other series. But in the UC timeline the best weapons vary, some of the best known are Mega Particle Beam Cannons. This was then replaced with the system called Varible Speed Beam Rifle or VSBR. VSBR is very good seeing as how it runs off the Mobile Suit's generator and the pilot can choose the speed for the beam particle's speed. A slow speed results in a wide massive beam that is capable of destroying warships; faster speeds result in a finer mor concentrated beam which can peirce sheilds and armoring. Also some of the colony names; Colony names vary on the UC gundam series from Side to Frontier. Okay I'm going to show you two different Gundams. The first one is from the Universal Century timeline. Note how simple it looks, to millitristic right? No, it was made this way, its a ground type gundam. Well here it is for your own opinion. [img]http://www.mahq.net/gallery/gundam/official/gallery02/08MS-005.jpg[/img] And here is the one from Gundam Wing. Now in my opinion I do believe it was made to look this way so as to catch your eye or to try and strike fear.. You be the judge. [img]http://www.mahq.net/gallery/gundam/official/gallery06/gunw013.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamme Immorale Posted July 13, 2003 Share Posted July 13, 2003 Truth be told, when you get down to it there are few differences between AC and UC Gundams. Save G-Gundam and somewhat Wing, of course. You have two main opposing sides. The Earth and the Colonies. In nearly every series, you have a novice piloting the Gundams. Though, quite often, there seems to be some kind of Char et Amuro esque rivalry going on, too. Take 0083 for example. You have Kou always fighting against Gato, even when they aren't in the same battle. They both shared a love interest Nina (like Lalah). In SEED you have Muu lu Fraga and Lau la Cruz. While they aren't the main characters, nor have their pasts been revealed in any fansubs I've seen, the fact that Cruz wears that mask is foreshadowing SOMETHING dealing with Char. In Gundam Wing, Zechs and Heero. While their common female link was not LOVED by Zechs, Relina is his sister. For the most part, all of their rivalries started before they even met each other. I really have lost my train of thought here.. my bad... Anyway, about your comment on the militaristic appearence and use of Gundams... there is none. A mobile suit is not a practical weapon in war. It would cost way too much to manufacture, be easily destoryed, and would be more of a nuisance to friendlies on the battlefield. It has been quite some time since I've seen anything predating Gundam X, so please excuse any errors I make (better yet, please correct me if you would like). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domon Posted July 13, 2003 Author Share Posted July 13, 2003 Actually in the UC timeline the gundams like I said, were either produced in small numbers or only one kind was made and variations were made after or before it. Take for example the RX-79 Ground Type Gundam. That was somewhat mass produced, there were several squadrons of them stationed out in the Asian area during the One Year War. Also, there were several different RX-78 gundams, but during the colony invasion they were destroyed because they weren't fully assmbeled and were easy prey. But in Gundam Wing, Gundainium is supposedly indestructable and therefore costs a lot more money than that of Titainium. I will agree with you about the colonies revolting etc. is a common theme for ALL of the gundam series, but that is due to the fact that the man who created the original mobile suit gundam would not let other gundam series creators stray to far off from his idea. I know G-Gundam appears to be an exception but, when Neo Japan had taken the Devil Gundam back to the colony and it took over Rain and then took control of the entire colony Ulube declared that Neo Japan was revolting and taking full control of all of the colonies. So basically in the end it was like all of the other gundam series. But there is one major difference between the UC and Alternate Universes besides the gundams. Newtypes, sure Gundam X mentions them but its a very pale impersonation of the UC Newtypes. The UC Newtypes are the next step in human evolution which was theorized by Zeon Zum Deikun who said that space emigration would be the cause of this evolution. While my information on Gundam X is very limited I know that Newtypes were involved in the story line, I believe the main Newtype was a girl named Tifa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamme Immorale Posted July 13, 2003 Share Posted July 13, 2003 Newtypes are actually the cause of everything in Gundam X. And their powers are not impersonations. They have the same abilities as the newtypes in the UC series, except in the end Newtypes don't really exist. Perhaps the only flaw that made me hate the series. The only two series that didn't have newtypes are Gundam Wing and G-Gundam. In a technical sense, however, Hero and Zechs were newtypes. The only two pilots who could control the Zero system. The only difference in a newtype series was Gundam SEED. They weren't "evolved" men. They were genetically altered. Something much more believable, I may add, than a rapid evolution over the course of 80 years of space colonizaation. I'm sorry, but I don't understand what your first parapgrah's point is. Ir's probably something I should notice esaily... Is it about the practicality of mobile suits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domon Posted July 14, 2003 Author Share Posted July 14, 2003 No, my post was in response to you saying that the Milltary usage of the gundams was wrong. Actually I was correct. The gundams were made by the Earth Federal Forces for millitary usage, they were made in direct response to the Zeon threat, then followed the RGM-79 GM. So the gundams played a very important roll in that series. I will admit though that for Gundam wing the gundams were not ment for millitary usage but they were more of an army of their own so that's understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamme Immorale Posted July 14, 2003 Share Posted July 14, 2003 Oh, no.. I'm sorry. I must have worded it wrong. I meant, in the REAL world, mobile suits would not be practical weapons of war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domon Posted July 14, 2003 Author Share Posted July 14, 2003 No, my paragraph was not about Mobile Suits in real life. But this is getting of the topic anyways. I'm trying to mention the differences of the UC and Alternate Universe timelines not if it would be practical for gundams to be made in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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