Nate Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 How does everyone feel abotu it? I don't mind it...in a way......just don't show me 2 boys liek that *nightmares insue* I deon't mind girls..but what boy doesn't? *shtrugs* What do you all think? And..if it gets to bashing and flaming..i will delelte this thread. I don't want to have a thread lock again..it's kinda embarressing...... But what do you think abotu them? Do you mind them? Do you hate them? Are you one? *shivers at the sight of gay boys* nothing wrong with em...just keep 'em away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 [size=1] You know what really pisses me off and confuses me all at the same time? How can so many boys' get high off of two girls, yet cringe at the sight two boys? I wouldn't care if I saw two guys doing anything a het couple would do in public. I would accept any person, whatever they are. Gay, straight, bi...it really doesn't matter to me.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureWolf Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 Argh, this one's like the third thread about gays! I really don't understand these threads, as the only reason for their existence seems to be to make gays seem special. Two things: First, this discussion will be immediately one-sided: what do you expect to happen if someone is offended by gays, or gays are offended by comments in this thread? Do you really think anyone who is offended by gays is going to say it? I mean, what would that lead to? Remember, "if you don't have anything good to say..." In the end, I doubt you'll hear anything but appraisal. :o Second, if gays really wanted to be accepted into society, they should also realize that "ending discrimination" is a double-edged sword: if they don't want to be hated or despised (or as it's commonly called, "discriminated against"), they shouldn't be getting preferential treatment either. Discrimination simply means being treated differently for one reason or another. That differential treatment "discrimination" refers to could be either good or bad, so realize that "ending discrimination" should mean that there should be no more "LOOK AT ME" threads either. Either that, or I'd better see a "what do you think about straight people?" thread... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cloricus Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 I understand it easily. I find girls attractive; I do not find guys attractive. Therefore I have no problem with one but I find the other rather, unconfutable to watch. That's just me; I'm not gay and I don?t have to like what they like just like they don't have to like what I like. (Like!) It is becoming more common to see gay couples expressing themselves the same way as "het" couples in the street, I think this is a good thing to gradually desensitise the population until it gets to a point where they see no difference and I think that will go along way toward equal rights. (And all that.) Now I make no apology for the above. I was brought up in a society where gay people are not shunned but they were not something you personally would want to be and that has shaped my attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zeh Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Shinobi1827 [/i] [B]nothing wrong with em...just keep 'em away... [/B][/QUOTE] You think there is something wrong with them, then. You want them away from you, yet you say they're fine. Hypocrite. Personally, i don't care at all. When my friends get on the subject or something, i just shrug. Makes to difference to me. If a guy wants to love a guy, then by all means, i don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureWolf Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by cloricus [/i] [B]I understand it easily. I find girls attractive; I do not find guys attractive. Therefore I have no problem with one but I find the other rather, unconfutable to watch. That's just me; I'm not gay and I don?t have to like what they like just like they don't have to like what I like. (Like!) It is becoming more common to see gay couples expressing themselves the same way as "het" couples in the street, I think this is a good thing to gradually desensitise the population until it gets to a point where they see no difference and I think that will go along way toward equal rights. (And all that.) Now I make no apology for the above. I was brought up in a society where gay people are not shunned but they were not something you personally would want to be and that has shaped my attitude. [/B][/QUOTE] Wow, cloricus, I didn't think it was possible to state that position so politely! Haha, I guess I should refrain from flaming. :whoops: Anyway, yeah, I agree with cloricus' statements, except I was raised in a society where gays [I]ARE[/I] shunned, so I don't really like the idea of gays. I guess I'm just too conservative for my generation... :( I, as well, am sorry if that offends anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treton_noir Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Shinobi1827 [/i] [B]I don't mind it...just don't show me 2 boys liek that *nightmares insue* *shivers at the sight of gay boys* nothing wrong with em...just keep 'em away... [/B][/QUOTE] just keep them away, huh? nothing wrong with them.... just keep them away. *ponders on Shinobi1827's statements* (intended in a calm and a not-flaming way) sounds like [i]you've[/i] got a problem with "them". a person is a person. what a person likes or dislikes does not change that they are a person. homosexuality is not a disease. homosexuals are not people to be shunned or feared. you say "keep them away" like every homosexual male is a rapist or something. ...and, please, stop referring to it like "us" and "them". we're all the same. grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Shinobi1827 [/i] [B]How does everyone feel abotu it? I don't mind it...in a way......just don't show me 2 boys liek that *nightmares insue* I deon't mind girls..but what boy doesn't? *shtrugs* What do you all think? And..if it gets to bashing and flaming..i will delelte this thread. I don't want to have a thread lock again..it's kinda embarressing...... But what do you think abotu them? Do you mind them? Do you hate them? Are you one? *shivers at the sight of gay boys* nothing wrong with em...just keep 'em away... [/B][/QUOTE] [color=002E55]Do you understand how many times you managed to contradict yourself? You say that you have no problem with gay people, yet at the same time say you have 'nightmares' and want to 'keep them away'? If you're going to create a thread like this, you should be prepared for the consequences. If it needs to be locked, you shouldn't be threatening to delete it because you don't like what happens in the thread. If you're so afraid of the embarassment, why create the thread? Anyway, I have no problem with gay people. I have absolutely no clue whatosever as to why others would have any problems with them, either. People seem to have this perception that being gay makes someone a [i]totally[/i] different person - but how is that the case? I have a bunch of gay friends, some have told me just recently that they are gay. They don't sit there and make a big deal out of it, and nor do I. They haven't fundementally changed as a person in the slightest, it's just how they want to pursue a relationship and so forth. In my opinion, people who think that there's something wrong are just being insane. The same thing goes for religious purposes - we were given the power to choose, so why not the choice over our sexuality?[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted July 8, 2003 Author Share Posted July 8, 2003 *notices that he has contridicted himself* sorry......i had the idea in y mind....But like i said..i have no problem with them..as in i don't mind benig weith them..but i don't want to see what they do/don't want them to make a pass at me. Maybe i don't make sence...*shrugs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 Good, cause we don't like seeing a bunch of hetero's (no offense) go at it at the mall or wherever. If you had any respect for us, you wouldn't do that in front of us as much as we don't do it in front of you. Unless you live in some Gay Meca, you're not gonna see a bunch of gay guys running around holding hands, kissing, whatnot. It doesn't happen. I personally can't see how that could be disgusting either... it's a show of love. I'm not really disgusted by heteros doing it cause I know they are showing affection., and there's nothing wrong with that. My best friend and his ex girlfriend used to do it all the time. We're not aiming to have ful blown sex in front of you. lol. We're not gonna show you our dicks, we're not gonna grope each other next to you. We do as much as any straight couple does in public (and we rarely do that) so I personally can't understand how any guys could be disgusted by it.... but I know that those people are just not comfortable with their own sexuality so it becomes their problem, not ours. Even Sephiroth, the member here, said that he didn't care at all. He's like 25, Middle Eastern (I use this an example to illustrate that the majority of middle eastern people are flat out against homosexuality, in fact it's in their laws in many of the countries), has a kid now, and he has no problem with gay people showing affection... and you do? lol. The problem lies within you young patawan. And you only like two women going at it if they are hot. Sorry, porn stars aren't real lesbians. You'd turn gay too for a porn shoot if you got paid the buck that they did. Lesbians aren't always that hot and believe me, if you're straight and don't like gay guys doing stuff, you will have a problem seeing two butch lezbo's going at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 Personally, I'm just as annoyed by public displays of affection by straight couples... generally moreso, as many straight guys feel some need to go nuts on the girl on street corners, bus stops, ticket lines or whatever else. There's many gay people in Chicago, but particularly in certain areas that seem to cater more to the gay community. I've been to these areas, and they're a lot of fun. I've seen plenty of gay guys kiss and I've yet to find it any more annoying than any straght couple. Very few even really seem to get into it, unlike straight couples. Most straight guys making out in public seem to feel some need to jump down girls' throats. So yeah, I just don't like having to watch that in general lol. Gay or straight. Anyway, I'm not really going to address the other stuff because it doesn't even need addressing in my opinion. Besides, TN took care of it nicely heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randleman Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 I say to each his own. I have about as much problems seeing straight couples as I do gay ones. That is, I have no problems with it. As TN said, kissing is a sign of love, and if gay couples want to do that, then they can go right ahead. I kiss my girlfriend(not make-out kissing) in public, I and wouldn't really like people to be skirting us because we are doing that. So I don't think it's fair to skirt homosexuals. Let them do their thing, and I'll do mine, and we are all happy. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 I'm trying to see the reason why you, Shinobi did such a thread in the first place. You [i]had to know[/i] it would turn out this way! Luckily nobody has yet brought up religion... :rolleyes: So you have a problem with two guys having sex? And you admit (between the lines) that you are actually [i]worried[/i] a guy might make a pass at you if gays are allowed to "run rampant"? Like any self-respecting gay would try to hit somebody who loathes them as much as you seem to do... Ah yes, and the lesbian issue. That's what I've always wondered: why does seeing two (or more) women licking each other arrouse men so much (so that suddenly even the precious Bible is forgotten)? I wondered why it didn't turn [i]me[/i] on at all, but then I learned I was gay/bi/whatever too(haven't really decided yet - it's the lack of experience ;) ). I'm not saying that you're automatically gay if you don't like watching lesbian sex, but that's how it occurred to me. Transtic was absolutely right about the lesbian sex in pornfilms: you'd do anything with the amount of money you received from acting in such a film! Though I'm not sure about the women in the movies not being lesbian - I think most of the people can go either way without being disgusted. Being gay to me is quite confusing. I mean, I can't really picture me in a relationship with another guy, but I'm not very sexually turned on by girls - though of course I can admire female beauty. Things just aren't so black-and-white, even though you'd like them to be... PS. This shows how easy it is to confess in the net - even my friends and family don't really know. :smirk: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XeEmO Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 I don't enjoy seeing gay couples show affection. But I don't enjoy it when straight people do it either. I just don't really care either way. I don't think anyone really cares about it. I just think that it depends on how you were brought up. If everyone around you hates gays, chances are you're going to say you hate them as well. When everyone in a thread like this says they don't mind them, most people will agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Taylor Hewitt Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 [img]http://brokeninside.com/erasehomo.gif[/img] That's all I have to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mystik Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 It is a proven thing about homosexual guys that more than 80% of them have XXY chromosomes in there genes, instead of the "normal" XY chromosome combination in genes of guys. For lesbians however there is no genetic explination =/ It's the same way with criminals. More than 65% of criminals are XYY, having an extra Y chromosome in there genes. It is mostly just genetic, not choice. I am not offended by gays, I just don't want one coming up and hitting on me. *shudders* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 If we know you'r straight, we're not hitting on you... It's a waste of our time and your time. So no fear if you're blatantly straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evisoun Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 I think that it's fine. You tell me you're a homosexual, I'll put that thought next to, you hate soy milk. And Red, everyone knows "keep them away" and "having nightmares about them" cancle each other out if they are used in the same post. Go yell at your english teachers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 I don't see how those cancel eachother out whatsoever. They're not even used in the same paragraph. They're used in the same context basically as well. I don't know what English classes you guys took. I never understood what was so horrible about a gay guy acting interested anyway. I've had gay guys hit on me, and I don't handle it any differently than I do with a girl I'm not interested in. It's not like it makes you gay or something. People are insecure. I don't know how true it is that gay guys don't hit on straight people, but maybe I don't come off "blatantly straight" as TN puts it lol. I like the new banner by the way heh. -------------- Edit for below... Heh. Sarcasm isn't always easy to pick out on here... Especially with people I don't know. My apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evisoun Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 [quote]I don't see how those cancel eachother out whatsoever. They're not even used in the same paragraph. They're used in the same context basically as well. I don't know what English classes you guys took.[/quote] I was being sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randleman Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 i can see the sarcasm from your non-sarcastic tone and from your typed words. -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 Haha, how many in one week? I no more hate homosexuals than I hate anyone else in the world. I don't agree with what they do, but it doesn't stop me from loving anyone as I'm supposed to. I have my beliefs, and I will preach them from time to time, just as I'm supposed to. But I don't hate gays. -Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadClown Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mystik [/i] [B]It is mostly just genetic, not choice. I am not offended by gays, I just don't want one coming up and hitting on me. *shudders* [/B][/QUOTE] You know, this is the common misconception that probably fuled homophobia to be what it is today. Gay people don't hit on every guy they see. We're the same as straight people. You don't go around hitting on every girl you see. And you know what, gay guys are probably way more cautious about it anyway. We can tell if your gay or your not. It's one of our many "secret" powers. :rolleyes: And another thing, people should stop refering to us as "gays" It so sterile and bland. You might as well call us "THE gays" like it's our name. Gay people or the Gay populous will do just fine thanx. Or even better, how about Chris. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evisoun Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 [quote]i can see the sarcasm from your non-sarcastic tone and from your typed words.[/quote] My typed words were ridiculous, especially since I said "[i]if[/i] used in the same [i]post.[/i]" SA - No need to apologize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subversive Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 I've already said this many of times, but here's my view on things. I have read the Bible, and as it says to be gay is wrong- thats all. While I agree with this I do not hate the people who are, that would also be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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